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[Rolepgeek]

Chaos is randomness. Chaos has the advantage because it's so random, half the time it's order.

How does that logic work? Because

humans

are chaotic.

[sjm9876]

Chaos and order can coexist. Imagine a universe so chaotic that everything is mixed perfectly. It is therefore perfectly uniform and ordered.

[Talvara]

shall we take the philosophy class to the ooc thread

its cool and all, but there might be a better place.

[kaian-a-coel]

Chaos and order can coexist. Imagine a universe so chaotic that everything is mixed perfectly. It is therefore perfectly uniform and ordered.

It depends on your definition of chaos and order. A maximized entropy mean a perfectly uniform and unchanging (and unlivable) universe. Is it order? Is it chaos?
If it's order, then chaos is non-uniformity right? But isn't "everything contained in its own little corner" a definition of order as well?

Let's make an analogy. A bocal of clear water and a drop of black colorant.
When both are perfectly separated, we call the system ordered.
The fragile instant where the drop is not entirely mixed, when we can observe beautiful forms of black within the water, we call chaos.
But when both are perfectly mixed, making a bocal of grey water, is it perfect order or absolute chaos?

[Zavvnao]

maybe its also like Taoism. or maybe it is entropy... (I will take this ooc)

[scapheap]

Chaos and order can coexist. Imagine a universe so chaotic that everything is mixed perfectly. It is therefore perfectly uniform and ordered.

It depends on your definition of chaos and order. A maximized entropy mean a perfectly uniform and unchanging (and unlivable) universe. Is it order? Is it chaos?
If it's order, then chaos is non-uniformity right? But isn't "everything contained in its own little corner" a definition of order as well?

Let's make an analogy. A bocal of clear water and a drop of black colorant.
When both are perfectly separated, we call the system ordered.
The fragile instant where the drop is not entirely mixed, when we can observe beautiful forms of black within the water, we call chaos.
But when both are perfectly mixed, making a bocal of grey water, is it perfect order or absolute chaos?

Perlute ordos.

[Rolepgeek]

Order cannot be Chaos, but Chaos can be Order.

Say there's a one in one hundred chance of a box of marbles having all the marbles perfectly aligned in any given pattern. That one-hundredth of the time, it will be ordered, and thus, if chaos is applied, it can be ordered. However, if you have a stack of bricks, it is ordered, and being order, will not change into chaos on it's own.

Thus, Order can accomplish nothing on it's own, for it wishes for nothing to be accomplished. Similarly, Chaos can do anything, but doesn't do anything, because it's desires shift endlessly. Only a combination of the two can achieve one's goals.

[sjm9876]

Order cannot be Chaos, but Chaos can be Order.

Say there's a one in one hundred chance of a box of marbles having all the marbles perfectly aligned in any given pattern. That one-hundredth of the time, it will be ordered, and thus, if chaos is applied, it can be ordered. However, if you have a stack of bricks, it is ordered, and being order, will not change into chaos on it's own.

Thus, Order can accomplish nothing on it's own, for it wishes for nothing to be accomplished. Similarly, Chaos can do anything, but doesn't do anything, because it's desires shift endlessly. Only a combination of the two can achieve one's goals.

Just so as this doesn't go entirely OOC, this logic means there must be a spy or order/chaos god in the nine.....

[kaian-a-coel]

So chaos is a process, and order a state? Sounds legit. Seriously.

[Corruptor]

To further complicate this discussion, there's also the concepts of Organized Chaos and Chaotic Order - where both elements are present but in different levels of precedence.

[sjm9876]

To further complicate this discussion, there's also the concepts of Organized Chaos and Chaotic Order - where both elements are present but in different levels of precedence.

The GM has spoken!!!!! Now back to relevance perhaps.......

[Zavvnao]

I am done with the derailment (sorry :'c) last thing in it, that if not order/chaos, then order/war get things done in eot? done now.

[Gentlefish]

We derialed so bad the GM joined us. This is truly Bay12.

Anyway, as for our little baby child. We must provide for it. It's an it, as there's no second member of the species to base gender off of.

We tell it that it is our shining creation, the first of a race that was brought to sentience through the power of chaos, and gifted with the abilites we have given it to succeed and thrive.

That states that it was an accident, sort of, while making it sound a precious thing. Which it seriously is. This is one of the most beautiful things Chaos can do.

[GreatWyrmGold]

We tell it that it is our shining creation, the first of a race that was brought to sentience through the power of chaos, and gifted with the abilites we have given it to succeed and thrive.

That states that it was an accident, sort of, while making it sound a precious thing. Which it seriously is. This is one of the most beautiful things Chaos can do.

Sounds good. Also, use our Chaos-Sense^TM or something to determine if she/he/it has any gender, and if so which it is.

[Remuthra]

I think I might be for giving full racial status to this thing, so amazing.

We should produce a few more for kickstarting purposes, say 6. Then we can test them and send them to scout.