Ford:
Toaster:
Ford:
That's retarded. Either it's valid or it's not. Using it against me only is complete bullshit.
Why don't you try reading my posts?
Captain Ford fits both those criteria.
How does that change anything? You're still making a case that it's valid for me, and not for anyone else. And now you're just trying to obfuscate it.
Me making the tie is a terrible argument considering the confusion over the deadline. Leafsnail made a mistake on one of the votecounts, and then didn't do anything for four days. I had no clue when the deadline was until I looked it up on Thursday, then I realized it was that day, and made a post urging someone to break the tie -- which is when Leafsnail revealed that it had ended a day earlier.
I didn't even realize there was a tie until the next day. And nobody else did either until I pointed it out 24 hours later. At which point, I called for somebody else to break the tie. It's really sad that you're pinning the responsibility on me when you timed your vote change the same way.
And no matter how hard I try, I just can't feel sorry for tying up my own lynch. What fucked up world do you live in where it's the responsibility of the lynchee to make sure he dies?
All we have to go on the deadline factor is your word on it, something I am far from willing to take at this point. You getting all hot and bothered by my case on you when you're plenty calm otherwise is another point not in your favor.
NQT:
Just from the numbers alone, given some assumptions about what each kind of team's voting would look like (and I might be wrong), I'd say Ford is low scummy. He's received eleven votes from five people. Assuming scum and masons will tend not to vote for their team mates, we can expect town members to receive votes from the widest range of people. His number of people that have voted against him are above the game average of 3.75. From this I'd say he's least likely to be mason and (given that scummy looking players may receive lots of votes) he's as likely town as scum, and as there's much more town than scum, he'd most likely town. That's just from the vote numbers though, and we'd obviously have to look at what people say before coming to a firmer judgement.
This is actually a fairly novel idea in looking at vote records, but I'm not convinced of its validity. I'd really have to see the numbers at game end to see if they bear out.
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I'm not sure who's the scummiest. I've got a few candidates:
obolisk0430
Deathsword
If you're not sure, how did you choose which one to vote as opposed to FoS?
If someone is likely town, why lynch them ever?
Well that's my thought, but on numbers alone, any given person is more likely than not a friend and Ford (who's on track to be killed) is not much more scummy than many other players. The best that can be hoped for his death (bar the unlikely event of him flipping scum) is a possible read on the alignment of those targeting him.
And this is why you can't play on numbers alone.
I'm positive vote numbers are the way forward, not the stuff people make up in the thread. You can lie more easily in words than in lynch votes.
Problem is you discount busses and distancing attempts. I've seen some pretty glorious distancing in past games.
TheZoomZoll:
Toaster-Hmm.Let's see.
Shoot one,stab one,burn one:NQT,Deathsword,Dariush
Perhaps you should consider what the traditional use of the blue text actually is? In any case, between NQT and Deathsword it doesn't matter, but certainly burn Dariush, because we want to be sure.
Deathsword:
For the entirety of this game you keep insisting Ford is town. How can you know? And don't bring "oh it's because I played with him before and meta" because that can be faked.
Are you reading his posts? He's said his argument on Ford's towniness several times, and I think it's pretty clear.
Toaster
Not only did Ford make the tie, but he did it 30 minutes prior to the deadline. If that's not a scum move, I don't know what is. Minor FoS goes out to Zombie Urist for not breaking it.
Even if he did tie up the vote on purpose (which is open to debate, considering the slack deadline with resulting rewind), what's wrong with that? If it had been someone else tying the vote I could see where you are coming from, but someone casting a vote so that they maybe don't die doesn't seem like a bad thing.
Also, any reason you didn't pull your vote?
Hm. I suppose that does make sense, though I'm not willing to unvote him just yet.
And I didn't pull my vote because I didn't post between his tiemaker vote and day end.
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