People talking about Kooks: Stop it. Just... stop it.
Hapah how can we trust that you really are just a harmless Kook? Seems to me like a decent enough way to pretend to be town when you're really a Dopp.
1) Why did you claim Kook already?
I think the point has been talked to death already (and I hope we can avoid running into the ground again), but I haven't been the speaker in those discussions.
I
have been a speaker in those discussions, and can distill a few key facts for those new to the conversation:
1) Claiming kook (i.e., an agent's inspection would return "dopp") is a
NULL TELL. "Null" meaning it doesn't make the claimant either more town-like or scum-like.
This is important: it is true that if he's dopp he could use this as a screen. It is also true that if he's honest it means he's town. It may also be he's an alien who wants to discourage agents targeting him.
You don't know which of these is the case, therefore,
as a result of his claim you don't have reasons to think him more town or scum. Hence
null tell: people who think the claimant scummy are just as wrong as those who think him townish because of it. He's neither, not more scum or more town than before he made it. Let that bit go and make your case based on other factors (questions, reactions, votes, whatnot).
2) Claiming kook on the first post is fine. Some would say it's even optimal, but claiming it at any point before being inspected is just as good. Jim
claimed kook D4 and it was fine, because he was clearly town by then and hadn't been inspected. It's fine to wait, but it's your doom if you're
inspected as dopp and say "no, hey, I'm kook!"
The odds of you being dopp are a confirmed 1/4. Odds of being a Kook? Much much lower. Odds of there being multiple Kooks? Comparatively Astronomical!
3) Don't play statistics games on how many kooks there are. We tried that on P18, and it was a lot of fun but ultimately useless. There are games with no kooks. There are games with many kooks. See Meph's post about purposely fucking with people relying on the Gambler's Fallacy to see how dumb this is. If you think someone is scummy, build a case on them based on other factors.
A couple more bits and then,
please let's let whoever wants to claim kook claim kook and shut up about this.
I can tell you I'd be deader than dead if I waited until D3 or so to volunteer the information,
As shown above, waiting is perfectly OK if you are actually town and are not inspected.
If there was something one could say to convincingly claim Kook early D1, you can best your ass Dopps would do it every time.
This is exactly true and the reason a kook claim is a
null tell. Not a town tell. Not a scum tell. Just a piece of information agents should keep in mind when planning night actions. Nothing more, nothing less. Move on.
I just saved our Cop a night action!
"Our" cop? Oh, how very townie of you...
That was a joke. I was trying to be lighthearted. Last time I try that!
No! Don't give up on lightheartedness. Mafia is
not SRSBSNS. Being lighthearted is good and keeps the game enjoyable, as long as you don't derail the thread with jokes and keep the "Play to Win" mantra clearly as primary focus.