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Author Topic: [3.5 D&D Maptools/IRC] A Duke's Final Mistake - Waiting List Only  (Read 41704 times)

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Re: [3.5 D&D Maptools/IRC] A Duke's Final Mistake - Waiting List Only
« Reply #585 on: March 01, 2013, 09:54:22 am »

I just came up with a build that gets +95 to Hide and Move Silently as well as...

How did you pull that off? Dark Whisper Gnome reduced to diminutive or fine size?
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« Reply #586 on: March 01, 2013, 11:47:16 am »

EDIT: Also, I talked it over with Willfor, and I went with a Soulknife fix published by Garryl. Rather than cloud of shadows.

I approve of this (soulknives!), but I wish you had talked to me about this too. Preferentially giving me the link as well. So, going down the Psionic Minor Creation path?
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« Reply #587 on: March 01, 2013, 01:47:06 pm »

What about detect alignment spells? And does they use any magic items? Or supernatural abilties?
He's unaligned, so immune to the former. As for magic items, none that leave an aura after initial use. I think he has a few supernatural abilities, but for different things than stealth.

How did you pull that off? Dark Whisper Gnome reduced to diminutive or fine size?
HIDE:
+08 Dex (stats)
+13 ranks (skill)
+08 dark template via collar of umbral metamorphosis (skill)
+10 greater cloak of elvenkind (enhancement)
+10 elixir of hiding (competence)
+10 psionic tattoo of chameleon (circumstance)
+02 masterwork tools of hiding (untyped)
+02 camouflaged clothes (circumstance)
+40 ninja powers (invisibility via ethereality)
TOTAL: +95

MOVE SILENTLY:
+08 Dex (stats)
+13 ranks (skill)
+06 dark template via collar of umbral metamorphosis (skill)
+10 greater boots of elvenkind (enhancement)
+10 elixir of sneaking (circumstance)
+05 cloak of gray stone (circumstance)
+10 psionic tattoo of silence (circumstance)
+02 masterwork tools of move silently (untyped)
+02 muffling clothes (circumstance)
TOTAL: +66
(Note: While using Ghost Step, this is made redundant as ethereal creatures are entirely inaudible.)

The invisibility is from the class feature for level 10 ninjas, Ghost Step. There's probably a more straightforward way of going about it, but this is from a partial gestalt game, where certain tiers of classes can gestalt. (wizards and such can't, rogues and such can gestalt with NPC classes, and stuff like Swashbuckler and CA Ninja can fully gestalt.) I don't think this really needs the ninja levels, since all they add is Sudden Strike damage (which speeds things up) and etherealness that can be easily acquired from somewhere else. Thrown on top of this is a level of Hellbreaker, a prestige class that's all about being sneaky around demons. They get a few cool features, like immunity to telepathy, hide in plain sight, etc. Collar of Umbral Metamorphosis also grants Hide in Plain Sight, but that source can't be used in sunlight. I've always had an impassioned hatred for whisper gnomes, so I forwent that. The race is human for another feat, since those are handy. Shrinking would give yet more bonuses, but it seems completely ridiculous to shrink down to the size of a pea and start stabbing people in the neck. I'm optimizing, not munchkining. ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)

Off that tangent, soulknives are rad. Do you have a link to the fix you're talking about? I might let a player of mine in meatspace use such a thing.

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« Reply #588 on: March 01, 2013, 02:45:44 pm »

With that many magic items on, Detect Magic should spot you, unless you've got an antimagic field going... in which case your magic items are suppressed.
Even potions give off a magic aura, and items of Elvenkind obviously do.
You've also got two cloaks on.
And when you're not ethereal, Glitterdust or even a bag of flour will spot you... I usually ignore the ninja class, they can't stay ethereal indefinitely, can they?
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« Reply #589 on: March 01, 2013, 03:12:17 pm »

http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1128.0

Alas, no Psi-Minor Creation, but I can get fairly decent poison-making checks.

Last I recall, wealth per character was about 8700~ ish.
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« Reply #590 on: March 01, 2013, 05:40:25 pm »

Spoiler: Tangent (click to show/hide)

What I used Typhoon's previous wealth for, since I should probably state that: Bracer of Health +1, a large tithe to the Paragnostic Assembly, a slightly better amulet of Truespeech, and around 1500gp left over.

Level 4 skill points went into Truespeech (duh), various knowledge skills, and possibly Iaijutsu Focus. Is that skill allowed in this campaign, so long as I refrain from quickdraw shenanigans? Quickdrawing for every attack is a bit silly, but once per enemy (or encounter) doesn't seem terrible. After all, how often do I catch people flat-footed?  :P

Note to self: Remember to actually use Knowledge Devotion sometime.

SORTA-EDIT: That does indeed look swell, Wrex. Should be a fun character.
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« Reply #591 on: March 01, 2013, 06:30:25 pm »

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=525897

I go first, impale you with a spear coated in Sinmaker's Surprise, and then we all go home for tea. Using Mindcraft, I can make a DC 25 Poisoncrafting check on a 9, so I can take ten to craft 5 cubic feet of the stuff that lasts for five hours. I specifically asked Willfor before doing this, and if he would like me to change at any time, he just needs to say so. I also add wisdom to damage, and use wisdom in place of Str for my attack bonus. I can also Discharge Mindcraft to summon An astral construct.


The ripper is in the planar handbook. It's basically a greatsword that does piercing damage.
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« Reply #592 on: March 01, 2013, 08:55:42 pm »

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=524941

Sir Kerrous, your friendly neighborhood singing knight in shining armor. Sort of. I'll probably be wearing light armor and maybe a buckler, so I can tumble. Still in the process of making him, and of changing him from Paladin 3 Bard 2 to Paldin 2 Bard 3.
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« Reply #593 on: March 01, 2013, 09:16:28 pm »

With all this crazy multiclassing going on, I feel mundane with a ranger 5.
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« Reply #594 on: March 01, 2013, 09:39:03 pm »

With all this crazy multiclassing going on, I feel mundane with a ranger 5.

You haven't seen multiclass until you've Seen Barb5/Soul Eater 1/Totemist 2/FoF2/Thayan Gladiator 10 with bought off feral LA
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« Reply #595 on: March 01, 2013, 09:56:26 pm »

Pshaw. Look up Politico build. That's multiclassing.
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« Reply #596 on: March 01, 2013, 10:01:16 pm »

With all this crazy multiclassing going on, I feel mundane with a ranger 5.

You haven't seen multiclass until you've Seen Barb5/Soul Eater 1/Totemist 2/FoF2/Thayan Gladiator 10 with bought off feral LA
It's relative.
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« Reply #597 on: March 01, 2013, 10:14:59 pm »

Still. Like, seven or eight classes in 11 levels.
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« Reply #598 on: March 02, 2013, 12:02:07 am »

With all this crazy multiclassing going on, I feel mundane with a ranger 5.

You haven't seen multiclass until you've Seen Barb5/Soul Eater 1/Totemist 2/FoF2/Thayan Gladiator 10 with bought off feral LA

You can take class levels in being The Seal God?
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Barbarian. Okay.  :P


With all this crazy multiclassing going on, I feel mundane with a ranger 5.
I've got one level in rogue and the rest is in whoopdy-fuck-tacular Shadowcaster. I've got like, 8 tricks up my sleeve, only half of which are really useful. I can't even UMD decently!

Also, I just realized I haven't done a journal for that last session.  :o
I should get on that some other time that is not right now.
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« Reply #599 on: March 02, 2013, 02:18:58 am »

Well, I can't figure out what my feat should be. Lingering Song is a possible choice, as is Martial Study(Vanguard Strike). Or Kiai Shout...Sound of Silence...so many choices! And none of them particularly stand out to me, which is the real problem. Maybe Practised Spellcaster for Bard
levels?

I'm also not certain what spells to know...
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