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[Loud Whispers]

How was anyone's experience with the CK2>EUIV save converter? Do dynasties transfer over, do nation names affect national ideas, et cetera? A CK2 game of mine and a few friends is on it's last few years and we were going to see how well the converter carries over things such as tribes and reformed paganism.

It's alright. Dynasties transfer (and the game recognizes all rulers of it as the same dynasty), cultures transfer, religion transfers. Getting the right NIs is a bit poorly implemented - most big nations will get their NIs (but only with the right name - 'Suomi', the name of Finland when ruled by Finns, will just get generic ideas instead of Finland's), sometimes the culture of the ruler/nation grants the ideas of the culture, sometimes it just gives generic ideas even if it seems it should give tag-specific ones.

Tribes will probably give you some kind of tribal government, not sure, and reformed religions transfer over fine, with unique bonuses. Tech groups depend on the spread of tech in CK2, I think - expect to see Muslim and Eastern tech for nations/places you're used to being Western.

Oh and unless you want to do some province changing and a bit of editing try to stay away from Africa, the Middle East and India. There are a lot more province differences between CK2 and EU4 in those regions than there are in the rest of the map and those regions inevitably become a horrendous mishmash of CK2 and EU4 states.

[Persus13]

Got to say, I'm liking the looks of the new random new world. Also, the fantasy nations seem to have unique ideas. Thus far I've seen the Obsidian Empire and Vinland.

There's also a nation that appears to be from Zheng He's fleet that shows up occasionally too.

[Vendayn]

First, two screenshots (one showing default Roman Empire in year 58, and the other is my in-game nation I created using editor)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/Vendayn/EU4%20Extended%20Timelines/TheSeleucidEmpire.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/Vendayn/EU4%20Extended%20Timelines/RomanEmpire.jpg

The very first (as far as I can tell, google, reddit and paradox forms no one has ever made...) the Seleucid empire.

Unless someone else has made the Seleucid empire, but no search says anyone has.

Also, despite my giant empire, I do say it in the spoiler...I start in normal mode, increase unrest by a lot, start a war with rome and parthia (since my alternate history of Seleucid empire makes them at war in the start) and its a hard as heck game. Not so much against rome/parthia (they are challenge too, cause they both have a lot of vassals)...but so many rebels. After I set the initial scenario up, I switch my save to ironman mode.

With that said, its actually easier to start as roman empire in 58 than the way I set the game up Roman empire in year 58 is still hard though, tons of rebellions and huge parthia armies attacking. But still, roman empire gets the advantage of a ton of cash/military and land...so its easy in some ways. But its still a really hard game, because historically roman empire did collapse. In this case, Seleucid empire is sort of the roman empire, but even more unrest and more wars. Since they were defeated in history, but in this case the way I set it up, they went to win against romans and take a ton of their land over the next few decades.

long spoiler (that way it doesn't take so long to scroll through the thread)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So, I created The Seleucid Empire custom nation (using nation creator, and unlimited nation creator points). Extended timelines, starting in year 58 (default earliest year with the mod). In this timeline, they successfully defended against the Roman Empire, dealt with their overextension, and pushed the Romans out of Italy and sacking Rome. Considering it was year 63 BC (according to Wiki, but either way, close enough) they were historically defeated, in my own alternate history of them, they instead won and was given many decades to push back the Romans. On the east side, they lost some land as they focused on the west.

Now, the start DOES have a huge empire under their control. Romans pushed back almost out of Europe (not entirely) where as Parthia isn't much of a threat now. So in a way its easy, however...it does pose its own challenges. I do NOT start with ironman, but instead console in heavy unrest in many provinces (to simulate unhappiness in their conquered lands, which have many Roman patriots) AND I make sure to declare war on both parthia and what is left of Rome, as in my alternate history...both nations have been under siege against The Seleucids.

Of course, in some ways its easy...I start with a ton of land, money, land force and trade. HOWEVER, if you start in year 58 and choose Roman Empire...its same exact thing. The hardest part of starting with roman empire (and my Seleucid empire I created in-game) is not fighting parthia or anyone else, but dealing with mass unrest. Which I simulate with console commands with Seleucids. Then I turn on ironman mode afterwards ;P

I have never seen ANYONE make a custom Seleucid nation...so here is the very first Seleucid empire of year 58 (which actually is the most fitting year if one is to do this, since technically they were defeated some time back)

Also hellenic religion and greek culture With eastern technology and eastern graphics. I think that is most fitting. I did try Anatolia technology that seemed like it might fit better, but it gets automatically changed to eastern since anatolia is too advanced or something for the time, so eastern technology is closest I guess.

I've played about 10 min trying it out after setting it all up...and wow being at war with roman empire (even if its a lot smaller)+parthia+their vassals and all the unrest...very hard start. Kind of seems harder than the default roman empire in year 58, since I'm in even more wars than just rome vs parthia. But lots of fun

[FritzPL]

Got Obsidian Empire in my multiplayer game as well. I found myself uncontrollably excited at the prospect of exploring unknown land, so much that I extended the session 2h longer than we planned to play it originally Playing Irish exodus with a custom nation is grand, only problem is I'm 20 colonial range off the closest province, can't colonize anything other than Cape Verde, no navigators and additional range only comes in 2 diplo techs.

[Orange Wizard]

I'm still looking for Secret Denmark.

[Karlito]

EDIT: It looks like at least some of the random new world... isn't. There's a few smaller landmasses I've stumbled across that have been identical to other ones.

Yes, the whole thing is now based on premade, handcrafted tiles that are randomly arranged/

[Karlito]

Yeah, it shouldn't be hard to add more tiles right now. PDS has said they want to expand the number in future patches as well.

[Persus13]

That was part of the point of the new random new world was the tiles.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

On the other hand it leads to stuff like upside-down India, so that's cool.

[Wiles]

Looks like you can get a free cosmetic DLC for the game if you verify your e-mail address for your paradox account. Link to forum post.

I'm having trouble logging in at the moment so I haven't been able to get mine yet.

[Kot]

Funilly enough you get the DLC even if you don't have EUIV.

[Wiles]

Their website seems to be horribly broken at the moment. I can't access the bug report forum because the site seems to have forgotten that I own the game and I can't even access my profile to add the game to my account.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Including the corpse of the Leviathan.

This really annoys me considering how they named the expansion "The Cossacks" instead of the infinitely superior "The Leviathan".

Also it seems development is still hardlocked to only MP, even after every single major mod had to completely remove the vanilla system and make their own. Sorry Paradox but a leaderboard and victory points are not going to bring me back to your game.

[Persus13]

Also it seems development is still hardlocked to only MP

I have no clue what you mean by this. The only thing I can think of it meaning is 'you can only use development in MP'

He means that you can only spend Monarch Points (MP) on improving development instead of spending money or something else. He's been complaining about it since Common Sense came out.

[Orange Wizard]

Having development tied to wealth rather than MP would be a big improvement IMO.

[WealthyRadish]

Also it seems development is still hardlocked to only MP, even after every single major mod had to completely remove the vanilla system and make their own.

I haven't seen the long game spin out yet, but I think vanilla may be almost tolerable with some of the changes. Since core costs are now capped at 30 development (and there's a new modifier that encourages the AI to develop the capital more), having Europe be a high development hellscape shouldn't be as bad late game. Overextension may not be capped though, I haven't checked, and I'm not overly optimistic about 5% dev cost in capital per 100 total development changing things much. With OPMs it'll definitely still be a loony nightmare of 40 development metropolises built on arctic swamps (unless they changed the AI), and that'll need some modding (easiest way would be adding a triggered modifier with the condition of being an OPM that's not a free city increasing development cost massively, but that leaves out 2PMs, 3PMs, etc).

It's disappointing that paradox seems oblivious to AI development being bananas, but all things said, being able to play ironman with mods makes me pretty much stop caring about whatever they do to vanilla. I used to play vanilla to avoid the temptation of using the console and savescumming, but now there's no reason at all to.