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Welp, I given this enough time so I want to march on....

Let me tell you a little bit about the world your are on...

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Civilized World Population

34586 Suikas
18546 Humans
28598 Kappas
28024 Parseekkuris
12855 Inabas
6465 Biokkuris
366 Yukkouseis

Total: 129440

Outdoor Animal Populations (Including Undead)
51060 orcas
43129 manta rays
40592 bull sharks
45666 tiger sharks
79143 albatross men
3762955 black kedamas
3726290 white kedamas
2733 sea serpents
81310 gigantic squids
119991 squid men
176 sea otters
91908 sperm whale men
56166 sperm whales
1175661 giant horseshoe crabs
138063 horseshoe crab men
899103 horseshoe crabs
1142639 giant sponges
102530 sponge men
48507 giant orcas
114885 orca men
28083 giant cuttlefish
109779 cuttlefish men
45954 giant crabs
48507 giant octopuses
119991 octopus men
173604 octopuses
119541 bluefin tuna
40592 great barracudas
48507 marlins
68931 bluefish
53277 giant groupers
48507 opah
288 cod
240 sturgeons
15222 komakkuris
63716 stingrays
40848 angelsharks
67321 hammerhead sharks
89350 blue sharks
43129 whitetip reef sharks
40592 blacktip reef sharks
77533 shortfin mako sharks
256 basking sharks
71036 whale sharks
61272 spotted wobbegongs
43401 spiny dogfish
6381 sea lampreys
7266 giant moon snails
16984 moon snail men
66378 giant ospreys
129739 osprey men
65665 ospreys
5736 mountain goats
29926 coyotes
23318 yaks
148787 great horned owls
35708 wombats
25193 kingsnakes
153 kanakana hakutakus
432 kanakkuris
39774 yukkurikos
3572 ellikuris
6936 yukkakuris
531 proto yukkakuris
3346 yukkurumias
3938 yukkurumias
713871 red kedamas
77681 dingoes
20314 merupos
29483 myons
6960 orangutans
17467 medikkuris
209714 dingo men
3918 giant yukkurumias
4872 giant tapirs
2320 pythons
17274 giant black mambas
18733 black mamba men
13119 pangolins
7664 giant sloths
38715 monitor lizard men
68495 giant opossums
18767 coatis
74722 giant wombats
62382 giant weasels
42415 weasels
31466 rattlesnakes
19224 kingsnake men
70207 giant porcupines
123102 porcupine men
109269 echidna men
50766 echidnas
252 giant koalas
2486 koala men
8102 mofumofu hakutakus
9264 mystchikkuris
717965 sunflower fairies
3543 giant flying squirrels
23194 flying squirrel men
65959 giant hamsters
183521 hamster men
6728 bilous
7192 black-handed gibbons
38008 arisukkuris
8550 raijuus
70875 yukkushizuhas
4722 erins
17696 red panda men
17221 moose men
41196 badgers
41534 momizikkuris
7612 cougars
10605 deer
56288 yukkuri whites
8117 blue peafowls
646 giant brown recluse spiders
1194 brown recluse spider men
177488 giant mosquitos
291188 mosquito men
236261 slug men
167085 giant thrips
330105 thrips men
110273 giant lice
308946 louse men
115682 giant ticks
308547 tick men
7691 giant bark scorpions
117693 giant grasshoppers
312234 grasshopper men
240735 moth men
9330 giant bushtits
14047 giant masked lovebirds
16765 masked lovebird men
71612 dapengs
47963 eagle men
257863 great horned owl men
46964 giant peach-faced lovebirds
110474 peach-faced lovebird men
122110 giant wrens
3480 giant lorikeets
11824 lorikeet men
53244 parakeet men
69321 giant barn owls
204679 sparrow men
142493 kea men
58365 kea
4408 giant cassowaries
98907 giant ravens
2081785 ravens
147935 giant crows
5334 giant peregrine falcons
78752 giant dingoes
1963 giant yukkurumias
860 saltwater crocodiles
1518 giant anacondas
1512 ibarakkuris
2520 mountain gnomes
57656 giant chinchillas
11557 chinchilla men
64808 yukkuflans
35506 lettikkuris
21730 vultures
75394 barn owls
5932 monitor lizards
2866 lions
14828 aardvarks
6971 black mambas
18754 pangolin men
9065 jackal men
19571 hyena men
9684 giraffes
40970 giant snails
37404 giant jumping spiders
105870 jumping spider men
123627 mantis men
25261 bark scorpion men
86110 giant moths
67904 giant sparrows
172950 peregrine falcon men
3048 giant lions
256 giant impalas
704 impala men
8032 gigantic tortoises
83602 kestrel men
17350 ostriches
19954 wolverines
590 giant torakkuris
317 yupiis
257 milkfish
558 river otters
5564 ducks
451 tigermen
1722 cavies
1321 jackals
788 torakkuris
791 ikkuris
9488 alligators
57100 patchukkuris
514 bonobos
310 lirakkuris
57 sloths
34 gray gibbons
1540 pileated gibbons
9788 kyoukuris
48 anacondas
558 water buffalos
1200 giant coyotes
65127 giant gray langurs
16563 giant kingsnakes
52588 giant kangaroos
72537 kangaroo men
12161 giant leopard geckos
31656 leopard gecko men
39897 giant cockatiels
182222 raven men
270 giant lion tamarins
1215 lion tamarin men
1080 tapir men
297 giant pythons
1188 python men
621 giant bushmasters
1215 bushmaster men
378 bushmasters
6623 sloth bear men
8160 spider monkey men
648 black-crested gibbons
972 white-browed gibbons
675 silvery gibbons
810 white-handed gibbons
567 siamangs
828 tsuchinokos
190 mamizoukkuris
7876 hornbill men
594 giant grey parrots
1242 grey parrot men
567 grey parrots
729 cassowaries
38 orangekuri
729 tapirs
3972 giant pangolins
7160 sloth men
1969 giant king cobras
71248 opossum men
5346 giant coatis
53296 wombat men
86613 yukkugasas
361 giant red pandas
285 red pandas
11073 turkeys
11994 giant emus
5100 emus
185465 wren men
6086 giant parakeets
1296 cassowary men
138 proto yukkurisas
3315 lunakkuris
2877 giant bobcats
18308 chinchillas
34058 wolverine men
9648 honey badgers
65640 cockatiel men
41 capuchin men
978 proto yukkureimus
62 gorillas
2450 anaconda men
367 ocelot men
725 mongooses
19316 giant adders
12820 padopado hakutakus
37108 yukkureisens
495 kimeemarus
10191 emu men
17117 giant white storks
28747 white storks
230 spider monkeys
76158 green kedamas
360 patchukkuris
91 rikakokkuris
27309 kimekaidous
63 impalas
55226 giant skunks
77796 porcupines
41459 adders
21088 giant hedgehogs
94685 hedgehog men
36752 elk
1570 armadillo men
71 gazelles
120127 magpie men
56465 giant kakapo
44000 white stork men
12 yumemikkuri
17 chiyukkuris
26689 giant magpies
656 giant jackals
984 giant armadillos
1230 rhinoceroses
697 warthogs
1558 mongoose men
4033 giant ibexes
23953 ibexes
7056 giant hares
20279 hare men
6 giant ocelots
620 chimpanzees
374 giant aardvarks
902 aardvark men
176 giant monitor lizards
308 giant hyenas
294 giant mongooses
44385 opossums
31443 ibex men
76610 skunk men
56792 skunks
26463 giant echidnas
74135 adder men
36811 kangaroos
70481 coyote men
82436 giant wild boars
108999 wild boar men
55992 wild boars
13266 paruparu hakutakus
27694 sukusuku hakutakus
572 armadillos
651 giant tortoise men
12758 teruyos
22660 giant badgers
86353 badger men
46488 rhesus macaques
127751 snail men
65041 giant slugs
150539 giant mantises
72005 giant kestrels
45399 kestrels
34512 kakapo
118236 barn owl men
46994 giant kea
137738 crow men
2036 giant ostriches
94 ostrich men
7420 giant kiwis
25587 kiwi men
101917 peregrine falcons
316 proto arisukkuris
11 hyenas
4354 swans
3 giant sloth bears
10591 tenkotenko hakutakus
72 giant aye-ayes
288 aye-aye men
108 aye-ayes
18 sloth bears
120 giant spider monkeys
294 giant capuchins
216 capuchins
18 ocelots
222 king cobra men
90 king cobras
162 giant hornbills
90 hornbills
46 tigerfish
3522 yukkureliss
431 ogres
1557 koakoa hakutakus
3960 koakkuris
17 grimelings
58887 eagles
13 giant axolotls
50 axolotl men
358 otter men
463 leech men
13 giant leeches
1385 grizzly bears
2717 sasquatches
805 hinakuris
877 seigakkuris
285 foul blendecs
506 kurukuru hakutakus
15570 hares
53 geese
271 pike
962 common snapping turtles
675 beavers
40 beaver men
41302 green tree frog men
227 giant beavers
152 giant snapping turtles
145 snapping turtle men
200 giant loons
1973 gila monster men
87 gila monsters
1192 black bears
140 rikakkuris
7 ellekkuris
6334 meirakkuris
90 yukkureliss
11998 giant green tree frogs
617 loons
395 loon men
16320 myons
5267 giant gila monsters
1270 nightwings
108 alligator snapping turtles
136 longnose gars
5766 giant swans
2320 yugikkuris
47 mink men
63106 bobcat men
75587 giant great horned owls
28 koalas
38019 lunakkuris
9921 giant desert tortoises
7523 giant wolverines
22171 buzzards
16635 giant kyoukkurris
15268 swan men
50313 weasel men
23749 giant rattlesnakes
44472 rattlesnake men
336 mokomoko hakutakus
3239 yukkurisas
40437 kakapo men
69 copperhead snakes
296 minks
32081 starkkuris
82563 desert fairies
28024 sunnykkuris
2868 kiwis
646 kotokkuris
8858 desert tortoise men
202 giant minks
101 giant otters
2676 bushtit men
9 gigantic pandas
138 copperhead snake men
818 gray langurs
585 penguins
4803 little penguins
858 emperor penguins
1599 puffin men
9499 albatrosses
8228 great white sharks
12527 frill sharks
6732 nurse sharks
6358 common skates
8260 conger eels
8602 swordfish
10325 halibut
858 giant narwhals
210867 crabs
10098 leopard seal men
741 giant leopard seals
13798 giant sperm whales
4653 harp seals
9972 harp seal men
23000 nautilus men
5782 giant nautiluses
9724 longfin mako sharks
1404 penguin men
858 giant penguins
1638 puffins
1248 giant puffins
9499 giant albatrosses
780 walruses
8228 ocean sunfish
1131 narwhals
1248 narwhal men
16520 crab men
429 leopard seals
936 elephant seals
1911 elephant seal men
663 giant elephant seals
858 giant harp seals
1280 coati men
2720 moose
186 panda men
429 bobcats
246 rutokkuris
486 giant copperhead snakes
509995 blue kedamas
254 nuenue hakutakus
165 pandas
1378 gray langur men
2 giant lynx
26 giant stoats
30 stoat men
30 reindeer
50868 cirnoffs
3734 polar bears
163467 snow fairies
11566 giant snowy owls
3 lynx
96 snowy owl men
4834 bakabaka hakutakus
26 rankkuris
34 snowy owls
316 stoats
217 ice wolves
9 blizzard men
2700 nitorikkuris
138 dark gnomes
3 nyannyan hakutakus
30 lynx men
30 giant moose
885413 glasseye
1288141 squids
6160 mackerel
78084 sole
1075688 white-spotted puffers
852702 seahorses
61636 hake
383336 anchovies
967587 thornback rays
5664 hagfish
700212 clownfish
6448 salmon
1006529 nautiluses
1033646 cuttlefish
1463957 pond turtles
2106487 rats
2148872 lizards
1931540 dragonflies
1478134 monarch butterflies
37624541 flies
37070716 mosquitos
90477 lion tamarins
180676 red squirrels
229133 gray squirrels
202152 flying squirrels
2975767 hamsters
2858819 fireflies
201246 bark scorpions
2210050 moths
1496002 damselflies
158967 bushtits
270479 masked lovebirds
1530770 peach-faced lovebirds
2901692 wrens
86536 lorikeets
1529864 sparrows
21686 orioles
833328 cardinals
1017176 blue jays
3253525 toads
337619 fairies
371001 fluffy wamblers
3386941 two-legged rhino lizards
12160418 acorn flies
311225 parakeets
4547 axolotls
4358 guppies
738639 lungfish
3121 clown loaches
3329 banded knifefish
2329197 green tree frogs
196955 mantises
692079 crows
1291980 magpies
1050628 hedgehogs
360901 cockatiels
741784 grackles
1163765 large roaches
1145791 jumping spiders
4334982 pixies
213017 red-winged blackbirds
94687 leopard geckos
62877 knuckle worms
747553 blood gnats
30312 demon rats
427 brown recluse spiders
14762 phantom spiders
7135 perch
16939 brown bullheads
17360 char
17824 yellow bullheads
17486 sailfin mollies
18486 black bullheads
9908 rainbow trout
23598 fox squirrels
59284 chipmunks
753474 moghoppers
135388 spotted ratfish
506541 herrings
101728 flounders
124916 brook lampreys
121924 bat rays
107380 steelhead trout
66060 shads
Unnumbered oysters
Unnumbered mussels
Unnumbered moon snails
Unnumbered snails
Unnumbered slugs
Unnumbered beetles
Unnumbered thrips
Unnumbered lice
Unnumbered ticks
Unnumbered worms
Unnumbered leeches
Unnumbered bumblebees
Unnumbered honey bees
Unnumbered ants
Unnumbered termites

Underground Animal Populations (Including Undead)
43201 gorlaks
43181 trolls
28410 yukkumanes
20507 giant chukkuris
18749 yukkutewis
22225 giant moles
3845 blind cave bears
153018 elk birds
10591 chukkuris
70147 naked mole dogs
31711 giant olms
31701 cave crocodiles
31706 suwakkuris
127002 pond grabbers
23265 drunians
13963 remiyas
7111 helmet snakes
8123 giant earthworms
15881 giant cave swallows
31391 dralthas
20770 yukkisumes
9631 yukkanakos
14252 maneras
28959 reachers
59091 blind cave ogres
12334 jabberers
12769 yukkusatoris
70213 satosato hakutakus
57000 rutherers
123524 plump helmet men
30999 nezumas
564699 crundles
128047 bugbats
11913 voracious cave crawlers
6028 floating guts
58597 orinrin hakutakus
10700 yukkoishis
8201 molemarians
2563 green devourers
7455 cave floaters
52404 blood men
230123 creeping eyes
14771 cave dragons
62300 hungry heads
63614 flesh balls
63670 cave blobs
34900 zombie fairies
372 gabbro men
233 iron men
16649 fire men
16669 magma men
56738 fire imps
54713 magma crabs
Unnumbered three-eyed devils
Unnumbered black brutes
Unnumbered phantoms of tears
Unnumbered falcon brutes
Unnumbered koala demons
Unnumbered one-eyed brutes
Unnumbered shadow specters
Unnumbered unyukkuris
Unnumbered mugekuris
Unnumbered sarakkuris
Unnumbered yukikkuris
Unnumbered maikkuris
Unnumbered yumekkuris
Unnumbered luizukkuris
Unnumbered filth fiends
Unnumbered slate gray devils
Unnumbered cinders specters
Unnumbered gengekuris
Unnumbered mockingbird devils
Unnumbered slate gray devils
Unnumbered skink demons
Unnumbered winged monsters
Unnumbered slush spirits
Unnumbered winged phantoms
Unnumbered ant fiends
Unnumbered devils of vomit
Unnumbered fiends of snow
Unnumbered slug monsters
Unnumbered demons of rhodolite
Unnumbered steam monsters
Unnumbered stonefly monsters
Unnumbered rhinoceros beetle fiends
Unnumbered horned fiends
53996 cave swallows
53812 bats
50065 cap hoppers
57788 earth spiders
51312 olms
60998 cave lobsters
60435 cave fish
44494 sake bugs
29848 creepy crawlers
32330 fire snakes

The year is now 105, the reason I chose this date was because it matched at a nice timeline that seemed vital. It's around the start of the age of legends and also there are still plenty of Touhous in the world. Not all of them survived, but a good number of them did.

Why did I not go any longer than this? To make sure we had plenty of Touhous to fight later on. I'm pretty sure they'll present us with some form of challenge.... maybe? I generated this same world to 115 and almost all the Touhou characters were killed off not exactly good if you ask me.

So yeah 105 it'll be for this world....

Now let's look over the votes..



Area 5 has won by a land slide so this is where we shall embark!

Crossed Horns got the most votes there fore it'll be the Fortress name!

The Gleeful Urns got the most votes, so this will be our group's name!

All is set! Which means we now shall move on to the next stage

Skills and Supplies!


Before we dare embark upon the dangerous land the lies before us. The Suika must prepare for the trip!

Who will be the one's to go first?

I've took the first 9 participants who decide to play and randomize their order....

The original 7 will be....



1. Nyotor Lizardhammer
2. Sayanas
3. Notapirate
4. Grimlocke
5. Wymar
6. Highzealot
7. Maid Xan~

These will be the original seven to embark to the new land! The others will come afterward...
 
8. Totaku (mason/engraver)
9. Captainarchmage (Weaponsmith)

This will also be the the turn order in which everyone will take thier turn. This means Nyotor Lizardhammer
 will go first!

Before we head off though it's time for our Suika to determine what they should bring....

Here's the Suikas and supplies:







I will name the Suikas after we get done with determining everything.

We have 290 points to use for our Suikas so let's decide wisely what needs to be done with them! I'll give you all one day to see if any decisions are reached... We can take or place in what we need. Feel free to give your opinion on what we will do...

An addtional note: You are free to still sign up as you all can still join to play or spectate at any given time, you will just be put on the bottom of the list as of this point.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2012, 12:31:46 pm by Totaku »
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2012, 12:26:21 pm »

Hmmm, I'll be a miner then.

Engraver too. If there's another miner or two then maybe masonry.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2012, 12:38:48 pm »

I say we do not take dimple cups. I just find them completely useless. Cave wheat, well I dislike it but it's more useful than dimple cups imo. Now we can save points by not taking metal axes and take training axes instead. We could also take wood along so we can make the axes ourselves. I also prefer more drinks. Personally I don't take quivers and I do take some leather along.

Now for my skills. 1-2 in appraiser and judge of intent. 1 in record keeper and organizer and cook. Extra points can go to cook and any other social skills relating to broker, bookkeeper or manager. Yes, I want all three of those positions. It's the kind of person I am and it works not to mention you only need one office compared to two.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2012, 01:37:25 pm »

I don't think we need a wheelbarrow, those are pretty simple to build with wood and most cart items aren't all that heavy. We could pass pretty easy.

Based on what Zealot said technically we don't need the wood either, since the cart provides 3, but with zombies around I don't know how much time there will be to spare to haul that inside the first hole I can get dug.

I think we should definitely consider giving someone some combat skills, possibly a miner to save efficiency. Maybe starting with armor (or metal bars to make armor)

Since the land will invariably be landcursed having more animals then the cart comes with will probably not be a good idea.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2012, 01:58:33 pm »

I don't think we need a wheelbarrow, those are pretty simple to build with wood and most cart items aren't all that heavy. We could pass pretty easy.

Based on what Zealot said technically we don't need the wood either, since the cart provides 3, but with zombies around I don't know how much time there will be to spare to haul that inside the first hole I can get dug.

I think we should definitely consider giving someone some combat skills, possibly a miner to save efficiency. Maybe starting with armor (or metal bars to make armor)

Since the land will invariably be landcursed having more animals then the cart comes with will probably not be a good idea.

I've seen plenty of terrifying biomes that are not landcursed, to the point of not having any of the usual evil grass or trees or walking dead, which is why I'm suggesting to pre-emptively embark on the location to ensure !!FUN!!. A proper landcursed region will have distinctive life.

Technically anything made of wood or cloth can be made on site by just bringing along some logs, and if you want metal bring ore. If its a proper embark digging down immediately will be necessary.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2012, 03:52:57 pm »

Whoops, I forgot about this!

I'll sign up for it. If you need an email to contact me when my turn arrives just send me a PM :D

And yeah, wheelbarrows are expensive on embark for what they are (a single log) so I'd vote no for bringing them.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2012, 04:23:51 pm »

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I like the fort/group name choice, as for embark, I'd go for 1, 5, or 6. Aquifiers simply aren't my thing, but it wouldn't hurt to try the many methods for breaking through them. Just hope they're not multi layered.

Also, I call for a bonus objective - building a palace of earth spirits in HFS, then flooding the entire fort via a massive geyser.

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I guess I'll be a military suika, just to see if I can live before my turn comes up. Axe Suika if you're being stingy with points and don't want to give me a sword. I would like to have a set of armor too, if it's not too much to ask.

For items, I would suggest bringing a bunch of extra ores just in case we happen to lose our axes and picks early on. Iron or tin should be fine, steel if you can manage. We're eventually going to have to extend our fort to the flux/aquifier area to get some more. Probably sooner than later.

I usually chuck the ropes, splints, crutches and thread/clothes since I never build my hospital early on, but as this is going to be painful from the get go, I guess it wouldn't hurt to keep them.

It would probably be okay if we chucked the quivers for now, we won't be going hunting if there's a land curse, and even if there isn't, new migrant waves usually bring their own anyway.

We can probably do without the wheelbarrow for now as from what I could tell, it sort of messes up hauling priorities because when there is a wheelbarrow available for a certain stockpile, no one's going to actually drag stuff there unless they have a wheelbarrow, which ultimately ends up leaving a lot of people idle when they should be clearing stuff out. And besides, we can always make wheelbarrows later.

Booze and food supplies usually run low/out just before the first caravan arrives, but in this case, I would suggest bringing a little extra booze if we can't get the farms up and running fast. We can always slaughter the animals that come with the caravan for food if needed.

I would suggest a mating pair of Chenkuris as the pests in evil areas sound a little bit more annoying than normal ones. Just make sure the refuse area is protected or walled off and a cage built immediately for any resulting Kochenkuris. A pair of mating Sakuyas/Marisas if you want cheap defense, but you'll have to let them multiply a bit before sending them out.



...That sounded like a lecture. Well, that's what I recommend. Good luck Neko!
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2012, 05:19:00 pm »

I'd like to spectate!

I don't trust myself with playing since I haven't played for a while now, so I have no clue what's happening with newer things like mine carts and such.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2012, 07:10:45 pm »

Anyone else have any preparation suggestions? I'd like to not be slaughtered here. This is what I've been able to come up with supply-wise
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2012, 09:07:53 pm »

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« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2012, 10:06:25 pm »

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Don't forget to bring plenty of marble. Well 36 boulders of marble, because you'll need it for the steel.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2012, 10:16:31 pm »

Nyotor and I discussed on IRC what to bring, and we're sort of at an impasse between cost effectiveness and time. Note that the list below also has 358 free points left, of which approximately 350 will be used for skills.



Basically, I'm thinking that we don't actually need ropes, cloth, bags, splinters, and crutches immediately upon embark, and they can be made to order when needed. By bringing the base materials (plenty of wood and threads of yarn), we can save points better used on other things.

I've also heard that training axes can be used to cut down trees. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but if it works, then it saves a lot of points. I've also brought enough ores and flux for a full set of steel armor and weapon of choice.

The granite is just in case we don't hit some rocks early on. It would be good to get the workshops up and running instead of digging down multiple z levels to find rocks to make workshops with. The logs must be saved to make charcoal before we can send any Suikas out to go tree chopping. This may be a little overkill though.

The sticking points? There's going to be a hell of a lot of logs to drag into the ground once we're settled. We could just leave it in the caravan and wall it off entirely along with the entrance to the fort though. It's also going to take a pretty long time to finish forging the steel set, and by then it may already be too late. Considering our options, it may be wise to just bring a pre-made weapon along and make the armor on site. I just really don't trust copper armor. Alternatively, we could just ditch the steel and use iron for the time being.

What do you guys think?
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2012, 10:20:26 pm »

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Don't forget to bring plenty of marble. Well 36 boulders of marble, because you'll need it for the steel.
Marble can be mined for, though. It won't be difficult once I'm safely underground.

I'm still for having cloth and ropes over just yarn and crutches and things for the sake of convenience.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2012, 12:04:01 am »

You can make that stuff fairly quick and cheap by bringing some thread.

Also think you may want to consider bronze, which is still decent and may be cheap enough to let us armor a few suikas.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2012, 12:39:45 am »

You can make that stuff fairly quick and cheap by bringing some thread.

Also think you may want to consider bronze, which is still decent and may be cheap enough to let us armor a few suikas.
[01:36] <Syanas> Grimlocke is suggesting bronze.
[01:36] <Syanas> Which costs less than iron and is only slightly inferior.
[01:36] <NekoRex> NO
[01:36] <NekoRex> WE MUST DO STEEL
[01:36] <Syanas> Haha
[01:36] <NekoRex> We have invested too many points into having a pointless amount of points
[01:37] <NekoRex> to settle for mere BRONZE
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