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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2012, 12:45:00 am »

*scratch head*

Oh well cant argue with that :P
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2012, 12:46:48 am »

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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2012, 09:08:48 am »

Sorry I took so long, I was tired from work and after sitting down and debating with Syanas and Nyotor about the supply list last night I told them I would look over the list and discuss what I think...

What I did following this was went and asked some of the other people about what they wanted to be and looked at the ones who already offered.

Here's what I was told...

NekoRex - All out combatant with Axes (Skilled Axesuika, adequate armor user dodger, and teacher)
Syanas - All out combatant with hammers (Skilled HammerSuika, adequate armor user dodger, and teacher)
highzealot - Wants to be cook and chief manager (AKA bookeeper, manager, and broker) (Skilled cook, adequate record keeping, organizer, appraiser)
Wymar - Miner and engraver possibly mason too  (Proficient Miner, Competent mason, Adequate engraver)
Maid Xan - Miner and crafts suika (Proficient Miner, adequate Stonecrafter and mechanic)
Notapirate - Didn't care (Competent Brewer and grower, adequate butcher and tanner)
Grimlocke - Unknown  (Adequate Carpenter, weaponsmith, armorsmith, furnace operator and wood burner)

With this + the skills I had selected... based on what Syanas and Nyotor put together minus the rocks and ores

(Also note there's one training axe in there too)

121 point remain

Also note I haven't selected any animals yet either.... Also note that I usually like to ultilize all 10 points for each Suika.

But this should give you a good idea what we have left in points and where we should consider going from here....

My suggestions....

as I said before...this is a terrifying zone, everything will be out to kill you and it could happen seconds after embark which is why I think, we should really bring equipment now not worry about it later.

I mean just what if a giant zombie dingo makes a b-line directly to your wagon before you manage to mass dump everything inside! What are you going to do if that happens? How you you be able to defend yourself then? That's an important question to really think about there.

How will you handle to first few weeks upon embark and if the worse case senario happens....

Better safe than sorry if you ask me....

This is why I made this suggestion...



dumped the rocks and ores, and brought an axe, a hammer, some breast plates, and caps. A little rearrange might be in order to ensure the carpenter doesn't run off with our copper axe, but at least we will be better prepared in this case. I've also took the chenkkuri and Yusakuya idea into consideration. Since they'll be useful....

We can worry about what we'll need to do once we are inside and have sealed ourselves from the outside since that's your goal for this run.

Just be ready for anything....

Tell me what you guys think...

Also Syanas and Nekobox told me to extend the planning for another day so I shall do so...
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 09:22:08 am by Totaku »
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2012, 10:42:32 am »

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF That's goes against all my plans for glorious steel armor! Copper will never last! You might as well send the dwarves out naked! Dump the armor, bring back the ores!
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 10:44:06 am by Nyotor Lizardhammers »
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2012, 11:55:09 am »

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF That's goes against all my plans for glorious steel armor! Copper will never last! You might as well send the dwarves out naked! Dump the armor, bring back the ores!

And I guess I'll throw in your suggestions in the reviced fromat....

Take the suggestion I have about the Suikas and their skills and apply Syanas and Nekobox's theory...

Syanas's with slight tweaking



Nekobox's with slight tweaking


What I mean by slight tweaking was I had to rearange the supplies to make sure they worked accordingly to meet the expexctations since in this form the Suika will have all 10 skill points used. So some things needed to be chanced half the log supply was dropped, droped rock nuts (never really liked them), dropped sweetpods (never was dependent on them), a few yarns...

and in nekobox's case a chenkkuri was dropped to make room for the extra magnetite.

So yeah these ones are based on if we keep the Suika's skills as is (since the crew mostly decided now)

So I guess if anything we should decide which way we should go before we embark since if we are going to decide on this kinda of path we'll need to set up to be done soon.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2012, 12:28:55 pm »

I'm for the first proposition, if only because more CHEEEEEEN.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2012, 12:57:26 pm »

NOT THE ROCK NUTS! Quarry bushes are one of the best things to cook and they have never failed me. Cave wheat on the other hand, never liked them.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2012, 04:24:40 pm »

Even with the massive points saving from other stuff, I think it might be better to jus bring more material for bronze. Can bring a lot more copper/tin than you can iron and the extra training for the smiths from working the large amounts of bronze will make the steel more likely to be higher quality once we actually get some. That and having the armoury full of extra weapons/armour will be very nice as some of the gear will inevitably be rendered inaccesible in the hands of a suika husk or buried in a mound of zombies depending on the flavor of evil we get at this embark.
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2012, 04:57:12 pm »

But the steel is guaranteed to be obtainable from the start! Why risk leaving finding iron to the digging of ores and taking a chance on getting some (not guaranteed) good quality bronze armor? Steel is far superior to anything but candy, and will be extremely useful once I decide to unseal the front door to obtain more of the wood I'll obviously start needing.

Also yes Rock Nuts are the best plant. Quarry Bush Leaves make for lots of extra meals.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 05:05:51 pm by Nyotor Lizardhammers »
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2012, 06:09:25 pm »

Alright, further stacking on Totaku's tweaks, I've decided we will probably need at least a decent weapon upon embark, so here's the new list.

  • 2 Copper Picks
  • 1 Iron Anvil
  • 60 units of booze
  • All seeds save cave wheat and dimple cups
  • 45 units of food
  • 15 threads of silk
  • 5 units of granite
  • 47 logs
  • 1 silver war hammer
  • 5 units of magnetite
  • A mating pair of chennkuris

The skills are already included, and 0 points remain. Totaku and I agree on this setup, how about everyone else?
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Re: Suika Fortress Yearly Challenge: Cross Forum Edition: Voting Time!
« Reply #70 on: July 20, 2012, 12:18:46 am »

Alright, further stacking on Totaku's tweaks, I've decided we will probably need at least a decent weapon upon embark, so here's the new list.

  • 2 Copper Picks
  • 1 Iron Anvil
  • 60 units of booze
  • All seeds save cave wheat and dimple cups
  • 45 units of food
  • 15 threads of silk
  • 5 units of granite
  • 47 logs
  • 1 silver war hammer
  • 5 units of magnetite
  • A mating pair of chennkuris

The skills are already included, and 0 points remain. Totaku and I agree on this setup, how about everyone else?

While I fully agree this is a much better solution that what was on the plate before hand. One thing still crawls in the back of my mind about this....

What should Nyotor do in regards of his skills? I mean he has no axe to use. Therefore he cannot really defend. Do we still go in this direction regardless? Or does Nyotor want to consider changing things up a bit regarding skills.

I want to make sure of things before I begin putting everyone together for our embarkment. I'm slating to proceed with embarkment as of morning. So let me know now before I proceed.

After talking with Syanas a bit I think that the plan he decide one will probably work, at least long enough to get everything inside..... it'll take some luck, but if something happens, hopfully they'll be ready for it.... the rest requires the time needed to get everything in an seal it off... Let's see how this plays out...

Unless there's any there are more objections that agreements (since Syanas, me and Nyotor agree with it) I will launch the embarkment come in the morning.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 01:42:30 am by Totaku »
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition: Go Forth CrossedHorns!
« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2012, 12:34:17 pm »

"So, have you made the preperations Suika?"

"YES! I feel ready! Bring it oooooooooooon!" Suika says with excitement.

Yukari then opens up a gap and a large table comes out from within, and then using her border manipulation, she made the table's surface appear in the form of what appeared to be land.


The land itself looks strange at most of it was filled with dead trees and dead vegitation... and on a small hill in the center... a wagon... with seven little Suikas a few yukkuri and a bunch of supplies on board.


And to the left down by the river in the southwest portion of the area... A bunch of strange bird like non have seen before, bird that resembled parrots, but were human... yet there was something wrong with them.... a sense of decay surrounded them... as they mauled about....

"What kind of place is this Yukari?"

"Oh, you didn't know that there are cursed lands in the world? Well they exist and on most occasions some of the most dangerous of creatures tend to live here... Creatures even most youkai would never dare mess with."

"You think that's gonna stop me, think again!" Suika said with confidence as she took a swig of her Sake from her gourd.

"Just remember, you can only command your followers to follow instructions with your voice sicne you cannot dirrectly intereact with the world, the rest is up them. And with that, let the challenge begin!"

And so with that.... Seven Suika embark into a new terrifying world where new found danger awaits...will they survive?  GO FORTH LITTLE SUIKAS AND STRIKE THE EARTH!

CHALLENGES!

Survival of the Fittist: Yukari wants to see if your fort can last for 20 years without any mishaps that ultimately kill you all off (except may be for the first year). Keep the fort going for 20 years and don't let your fort die off!
The Suika Kingdom: Establish a full fledged Kingdom complete with a king by the end of 20 years!
The Busy world of the Suika: Survive with at least 150 Suika by the end of the 20 year period!
Fight like a proper Suika!: Handle all battle  and training without using rapid training devices like danger rooms to train your Suikas.

Yes, through the game I will be throwing challenge to you guys to see if you can achive them, some will be simple, others will be hard, other will be diffuclt, but hopefully you can achive them, if we do well enough we might get a bonus out of it...
I was suppose to include a drawing for this, but I lost it so.... I can't do much with it for now.... oh well...

Anyways, NekoRex...Here's the file!
http://www.mediafire.com/?w45bn1dfqynk3qf

Godspeed to you!

PS. Also forgot to fix the dead glumpoms trees... they look like tables, but those are trees....

« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 02:57:23 pm by Totaku »
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Re: Suika Fortress Cross Forum Edition:Go Forth CrossedHorns!
« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2012, 12:39:29 pm »

They'll be tables sooner or later.
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Re: Suika Fortress Cross Forum Edition:Go Forth CrossedHorns!
« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2012, 01:27:45 pm »

The wagon was on it's journey to a new land. Countless preparations had been made to ensure nothing could possibly go wrong. It was a beautiful day.

"You know Syanas? Wasn't this was a great idea! Building a small settlement in the Forest of Happiness, basking in the sun all day, hunting for Yuugicorns, selling their bones, we've got this easy." NekoRex says before chuckling to himself and taking a swig of booze.
"Haha, right! Just the seven of us too, until we attract some folk. We'll go down as legends!" Syanas agrees, doing the same. "And all this booze to drink too! Just think, we'll make Sunshine when we get there!"
"Yeah.... can't wait..." NekoRex concurs, beginning to doze off.

But suddenly, the wagon stops with a loud CRACK!!! The entire wagon buckles, sending everyone tumbling off.



"Eh?" NekoRex suddenly snaps back awake. "Why'd we stop? This doesn't look anywhere like the Forest of Happiness."
"I think... the wheel broke." Pirate calls from the front seat.
"And that's supposed to stop us? Just replace it!" NekoRex scoffs.
"But I-" Pirate begins to say.
 But Neko interrupts.  "No buts!"
"Neko" Highzealot says quietly, but he too is interrupted and ignored.
"Pirate. Do you see any Yuugicorns? This isn't the Forest of Happiness!" NekoRex says, raising his voice.
"Neko." Highzealot says a , tapping NekoRex on the shoulder.
"Look at this place! It's a wasteland! It's nowhere near the Forest of Happiness!" Neko begins yelling.
"Neko!" Highzealot pleads, but NekoRex ignores him still.
Neko screams at Pirate. "How am I supposed to enjoy this booze and this trip if I have to wait for you to change the wheel while we sit out here in this awful piece of s-"
"NEKO!" Highzealot shakes the suika by the shoulders.
"WHAT?!" NekoRex roars.
Highzealot lowers his voice to a whisper once again, and points. "They'll hear us."



The... things... didn't look very friendly at all. It didn't appear they would have time to fix the cart in a place this dangerous.
"Oh." The suika states plainly, sobering up. "I see."



"Wymar. Grab the pickaxe. Start digging..." NekoRex says flatly, without looking away from the creatures.
"Right away." Wymar replies, a hint of worry in his voice.



NekoRex says one last thing before he turns his attention away from them. "...We're staying the night."


(Note: I have no idea who's what gender, so.... yeah.)
« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 01:30:17 pm by Nyotor Lizardhammers »
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Re: Suika Fortress Cross Forum Edition:Go Forth CrossedHorns!
« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2012, 01:29:38 pm »


I'm ready! I'm ready!
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