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2: NC and TR

3: NC, TR and Vanu

[TolyK]

"Continent locking will give everyone a goal to work towards."

Ha ha.

[Toaster]

That's why we need sanctuaries, so we can lock an empire into that and turn every screen in their base into a rapidly flashing Higby .gif.

[Sordid]

That's why we need sanctuaries, so we can lock an empire into that and turn every screen in their base into a rapidly flashing Higby .gif.

I see no difference between locking an empire into a sanctuary and locking them into a warpgate.

[Rex_Nex]

but muh nostalgia

[MasterFancyPants]

I'm curious about what kind of setup you use that allows you to kill infantry further than 10 meters away before they can rape you with rockets and grenades.

The Mattocks with slugs will make you effective to about 50m. I've also heard good things about the Ravens.

And yes, the falcons rape everything, if you can aim good enough.

[DJ]

And if the hit detection gods are merciful.

[Rex_Nex]

Few things I've learned today:

1. Grenade Bandolier in large fights is the best suit slot by faaaar. Like, not even close. It's one of the best investments you can make for any of the classes.
2. If you sit in a horde of opponents at night, you absolutely will not be seen. I ran into a large group of TR in a heavy firefight, threw nades all over them, and then just sat among them knifing repeatedly for a good 30 seconds. Ten knife kills, ten frag kills, infinite amounts of laughter.

[Jim Groovester]

get rekt

Remember how I got rekt in the Farmer's League Invitational Tournament on Thursday?

Well, it happened again, this time at the hands of Total Recoil.

Guys, don't join a xXxMLGxXX league if your outfit isn't xXX2MLG420MExXx. I would feel better if we were getting destroyed purely because of a skill deficit on our part, but when we're scraping for people to fill in slots at the last minute and we haven't practiced the map it's just an embarrassment. Organization should not be our Achilles heel.

[Toaster]

The announcer for the first game was very supported and thankful for your team getting out there.

[Jim Groovester]

An outfit pulled out of the league at the last minute and we agreed to fill in, so it's no surprise Future Crew is grateful for that.

We formed our twelve man roster and submitted it on the day it was due according to the ruleset. With such hasty roster creation I think problems like this were a predictable result.

Still.

[Rex_Nex]

I bought the GD-7F (NC's 845rpm/143 dmg dakka carbine) and love it. It not only has one of the lowest TTKs in the game, but has access to both advanced laser and softpoint. It's like an SMG that trades off .75 ADS for not having any of the downsides of SMGs (namely terrible shell velocity, damage dropoff, and ADS acc.) and an even faster TTK. Almost. The hipfire isn't quite there.

Was checking out weapon TTKs, the TRV is insane - not only does it have the same insanely fast TTK up close, but because it's an AR, it carries that TTK weeeelll into 30m+ combat. I cant quite recall how unwieldy it was from my time as TR, though, and TTK at range is not nearly as important as hitting home in the first place.

[Duuvian]

I bought the GD-7F (NC's 845rpm/143 dmg dakka carbine) and love it. It not only has one of the lowest TTKs in the game, but has access to both advanced laser and softpoint. It's like an SMG that trades off .75 ADS for not having any of the downsides of SMGs (namely terrible shell velocity, damage dropoff, and ADS acc.) and an even faster TTK. Almost. The hipfire isn't quite there.

I like the bandit. It has better hipfire and it surprises VS when you are only slowed to a jog instead of a walk when ADS strafing. I think they are used to fighting people who usually slow down by half or even have to stand still to keep their accuracy. TR are much more used to .75 ads move speed and track it better.

The GD-7f is really great if you can get close enough for a close range hipfire kill. If it's past a certain range though, especially with a suppressor and soft point, it will feel like it takes the entire magazine to kill someone as it sprays bullets around mid range targets in ADS mode pretty quick in a burst (though I used the 3.4 red dot scope with it during the inaccurate scope days.)

[Rex_Nex]

Yeah, the Bandit looks even better than the GD-7F, as the traits it offers seem best suited to a CQC carbine, while its only real downside (velocity) isnt terribly important. Recoil is a bit harder to compensate for, though. I'd of purchased the Bandit, but I didn't bother to do the math in my head and just assumed the GD-7F had the faster TTK while the Bandit was the lower TTK, better handling version (like the razor vs merc).

[Duuvian]

PPA was changed on the test server. Forumside is trying to determine if the current version on test is a moderate nerf or a powerful buff or somewhere in between. Posters chime in saying both, but those who say they've tried it seem to think it's still very strong though mostly they say they use it in VR. There are worrying posts about the changes making it as deadly as a Banshee up close while controlling your fire at long range allows the same rate of accurate fire as before. Cof expands more and much faster but it has 2x the firing speed. Splash damage is lower, max splash damage radius reduced significantly to .1 meters. It starts at 12 shots in the magazine, but the reload speed is significantly faster now. All direct damage removed and now damage is splash only. It wrecks harassers and esfs due to resist type changes, to the point it kills them faster than the current Vulcan but I guess it's not intended to do better against those vehicles than an anti vehicle secondary.

Spoiler: https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/ppa-changes-on-test.204621/ (click to show/hide)

PPA is being heavily modified to be more of an infantry point defense weapon and not a long range anti-infantry weapon.

    Fire rate increased from 150 RPM to 300 RPM
    Reload speed decreased from 4 seconds to 2.5 seconds
        Reload speed certifications reduced from 120ms per rank to 100ms per rank
    All damage is being shifted to the indirect damage component
        Direct hit damage removed
        Indirect damage inner radius reduced from 1 meter to 0.1 meter
        Indirect damage now uses Anti-Light Armor resist type instead of the standard explosion resist type (so it will still damage light armor)
    Cone of Fire now blooms with each shot
        CoF grows 0.75 degrees per shot
        Min CoF Changed from 0.3 to 0.5 degrees
        Max CoF Changed from 0.3 to 2.75 degrees
        Reticle changed to crosshair as previous reticle was not dynamic
    Magazine size reduced from 20 to 12
    Certifications reduced from 3/6/11/15 to 1/3/4/6
    Projectile speed reduced from 300 to 150
    Ammo Capacity reduced from 200 to 180
    Ammo Capacity certification per rank reduced from 20 to 12

In addition there seems to be some concern that minimum splash damage radius is still large, meaning as Alarox in that thread put it (I can't be bothered to check his math):

   

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

    d_carey said: ↑

        “Indirect damage inner radius reduced from 1 meter to 0.1 meter”

    To give you an idea of what this means splash damage wise, in the format old/new:

    0m: 300/300
    1m: 300/225
    2m: 200/150
    3m: 100/75
    4m: 1/1

    A effective 25% reduction in splash damage but a 100% increase in RoF.

    If we're talking purely about splash damage then you'll be able to kill faster than before.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Up x 3

Link to forums post with a video of use in VR:
https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/video-new-ppa-changes.204625/

[Ozyton]

Initial thoughts: seems like a step forward and a step back at the same time. If there were an initial COF then maybe...