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[Mr. Palau]

Problem is that carp's mouth have no acid resistance, so in that way we'll hurt ourself

Could cover the inside in ant chitin, which I suppose has more acid resistance.

[Naryar]

Problem is that carp's mouth have no acid resistance, so in that way we'll hurt ourself

Mucus glands, like in stomachs with acid glands ? Or hollow, fanglike teeth so we inject acid like snakes inject venom ?

[Mr. Palau]

Problem is that carp's mouth have no acid resistance, so in that way we'll hurt ourself

Mucus glands, like in stomachs with acid glands ? Or hollow, fanglike teeth so we inject acid like snakes inject venom ?

Lets go mucus glands because we currently can only resize/relocate things we already have DNA for, and seeing as how we have not eaten a snake (yet), we don't have the DNA for fangs. Also make sure we can turn off mucus production if necessary, so we don't choke on mucus, and only start to produce it before we eat along with the acid.

[Deny]

Problem is that carp's mouth have no acid resistance, so in that way we'll hurt ourself

Mucus glands, like in stomachs with acid glands ? Or hollow, fanglike teeth so we inject acid like snakes inject venom ?

I'm pretty sure we would need to consume somthing with that trait to get that trait (I'm talking about both traits)

[Naryar]

Maybe carp stomachs come with mucus glands.

[LordBucket]

Look for a jellyfish.

[10ebbor10]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1) Make more antfishs, to bring total number of antfishs to 100
2) Let them defend us, while we transform

3) Take a form of armoured carp
Biomass: 10 000
Genes:
a) Mimic carp as closely as possible +
b) Mix ant  carapace and fish scales in one armour
c) Replace Carps reproduction system with insect eggs, that will develop into more antfishes
d) Add 10 insect eyes all over the body, to see in all directions

4) Turn rest of carp's biomass into energy\nutrients

5) Look at the bottom of the pool for burrowed animals like frogs and such. (Energy intensive, might gain nothing)

First you decide to make some more antfish, in order to let them defend you. Then, you decide to change your own form, and go into a slumber for some time, having the antfish guard you. When you reawake you find out that they are all still alive. By the stance of the sun you can find out the transformation took about half a day. You decide that maybe spending some time looking for food at the bottom of the pool might be a good idea. Carps are bottom feeders afterall. You manage to scrounge up quite a lot of small frogs and insects. Your followers are much less succesfull.


((Well that went fast. I'm going to increase rolls for large creatures by factor ten now to rebalance things.)
A. Attack water insects: Good source of food, might be attacked by larger fish. Try to get food: High gain, quite a large risk. Chaotic
B. Eat weeds: Low energy return.  +-Safe
C. Attack large fish. High risk, high gain
D. Look at the bottom of the pool for burrowed animals like frogs and such. (Energy intensive, might gain nothing)
E. Other

Name:  Deoxys
Biomass: 11.000 (100 Antfishes(60)(Attack:+2, defense:+1 Acid attack(E:40/60N:30/30). ))
Energy: 9.000/10.000 (actions cost one or more energy)
Nutrients: 5000/5.000 (Turned into energy. Partly returned when said energy is used for actions, but not for transformations)
Abilities: DNA assimilation, splitting, Minor DNA modification (Can change size of parts, can try to modify DNA)
Current look:  Antfish (5 cm long, 1 high, 1 broad)
Status: Near a pond

Spoiler: Current form (click to show/hide)

-Chloroplasts(1)(4nutrients-->1energy per turn)
Insect eyes (+50 to observation, -50 energy )
Insect stomach (Can turn biomass in energy)
-Fish mouth ( +100 to attack)
-Fins: (+175 to water movement. -200 energy)
-Swim bladder
-Gills  (Allows you to stay underwater. -100 energy)
-Fish Scales carapace (+200 to defense, -10 to movement)
-Essence of Carp (Bonus to relation with elephants, and other dangerous things.)
-Insect reproductory system: Allows you to spawn all types of followers:
      -Instant Antfish: Cost: 60 biomass, 100 energy
      -Antfish egg: Cost: 10 biomass, 20 energy. (Takes one day to develop into a full antfish)

Spoiler: Dna library (click to show/hide)

-Antennae
-Planttick mouth(allows you to suck nutrients and energy out of plants)
-Insect eyes
-Insect legs
-Butterfly wings
-Dragonfly wings
-Insect stomach
-Insect egg/larvae(Non splitting reproduction)
-Cocoon (Reduces risk of being eaten while changing. Extra energy cost)
-Ant mandibles
-Ant carapace (Notes,relatively light but strong)
-Ant pheromones
-Ant acid gland
-Other bits of butterfly DNA-Chloroplasts
-Fish mouth
-Fins: (+10 to water movement. -50 energy) Depends on size
-Swim bladder
-Gills  (Allows you to stay underwater. -20 energy) Depends on size
-Fish Scales
-Essence of Carp (Bonus to relation with elephants, and other dangerous things.)
-Cell wall
-Large vacuole
-Roots
-Chloroplasts

Clones chematics for GM reference: (Doubt I'll need them)

Spoiler: Antfish (click to show/hide)

-Chloroplasts(1)(4nutrients-->1energy per turn)
Insect eyes (Allows you to see)
Insect stomach (Can turn biomass in energy)
Ant carapace (+1 to defense)
4 * Ant acid gland (Succesfull attacks are followed up by a +4 poison attack. 10 energy and 5 Nutrients to use)
Enlarged Ant mandible (+2 to attack, -1 energy)
Fins (+1 to water movement. -5 energy)
Gills (Allows you to breath underwater. -2 energy)

Spoiler: GM note (click to show/hide)

If you want to do a form change. Bold is good and makes it easier for me to count votes.

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[Ukrainian Ranger]

Hm, no useful frog DNA? Unlucky roll?

Anyway, time to rule the pond and I propose a safe route this time. Let's prepare for a grand attack next day

1) Lay 400 antfish eggs, somewhere in the weed
2) Antfishs guard eggs
3) Carp eats weed to restore lost energy\nutrients but stays close to the eggs, and helps if antfishs attacked by something serious


Hopefully, next day, with 500 antfish  escorts we may start a huge hunt on other fishes

[10ebbor10]

Kinda. Anyway, I might need to rework the dice system another time. Not because it's unbalanced, but because I'm currently rolling with d1000 's and such.

Anyway, if this idea comes through, I'd probably do a timeskip to the next day, unless something goes wrong.

[Mr. Palau]

Hm, no useful frog DNA? Unlucky roll?

Anyway, time to rule the pond and I propose a safe route this time. Let's prepare for a grand attack next day

1) Lay 400 antfish eggs, somewhere in the weed
2) Antfishs guard eggs
3) Carp eats weed to restore lost energy\nutrients but stays close to the eggs, and helps if antfishs attacked by something serious


Hopefully, next day, with 500 antfish  escorts we may start a huge hunt on other fishes

+1

[Xantalos]

Hm, no useful frog DNA? Unlucky roll?

Anyway, time to rule the pond and I propose a safe route this time. Let's prepare for a grand attack next day

1) Lay 400 antfish eggs, somewhere in the weed
2) Antfishs guard eggs
3) Carp eats weed to restore lost energy\nutrients but stays close to the eggs, and helps if antfishs attacked by something serious


Hopefully, next day, with 500 antfish  escorts we may start a huge hunt on other fishes

+1

+2

[Trapezohedron]

Hm, no useful frog DNA? Unlucky roll?

Anyway, time to rule the pond and I propose a safe route this time. Let's prepare for a grand attack next day

1) Lay 400 antfish eggs, somewhere in the weed
2) Antfishs guard eggs
3) Carp eats weed to restore lost energy\nutrients but stays close to the eggs, and helps if antfishs attacked by something serious


Hopefully, next day, with 500 antfish  escorts we may start a huge hunt on other fishes

+1

+2

+You have my sword.

[Naryar]

What UR said, BUT hunting mud-dwelling animals with the carp when it has laid the antfish eggs.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Weeds are safer and it's easier to stay near eggs

[Naryar]

Weeds are safer and it's easier to stay near eggs

Considering the eggs are guarded by a swarm of 100 small, very persistent creatures with acid bites... I don't think any creature in the lake would bother to risk it's life to feed on them, especially when they are plenty of other food sources in the lake, much less guarded.

Path of least energy/risk spent for best energy/food gain and all.