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[Caellath]

Hi, can I (a) join this game (b) are there funds allocated for personal ships (c) make a large detachable cannon-ship?

a) Submit a Character sheet.

b) Captains get 25.000 credits to create a ship, crewmembers get only 1.000 to buy stuff.

c) You can make one of those, the Godsplitter is being retro-fitted to carry a large cannon-ship.
-I could help you with the crucible of ship-creating if you accept being part of my fleet.

>Hell, I will actually help you anyway, creating a ship is a little hard.

[adwarf]

Well it was always meant to use some form of a spotter to calculate shots with the Hellfire :3 But the main thing is that its meant for use on much larger targets thus my chances of hitting would be far better away from your ship, and away from the thick of combat when it is required. Plus I plan on buying some radar drones or similar to assist with my poor radar systems.

[Caellath]

Well it was always meant to use some form of a spotter to calculate shots with the Hellfire :3 But the main thing is that its meant for use on much larger targets thus my chances of hitting would be far better away from your ship, and away from the thick of combat when it is required. Plus I plan on buying some radar drones or similar to assist with my poor radar systems.

Use your remaining credits to create a Spotter ship, I used my remaining cash to build the Treasury to carry my loot and supplies.
Also, the Hellfire's accuracy means that at longer ranges than the standard, it can end up missing pretty often.

And if by drones you mean small ships like fighters with radar systems, then I think it is feasible.

[Skyrunner]

I just made some unsolicited edits to the ship maker to remove the unsightly DIV/0!! errors. It checks it B7 is 0, and if it is just an empty cell. Elsewise calculate the answer.

EDIT : I also saw some redundancies; for example, SUM(cell+cell+cell+cell + . . . + cell) is exactly the same as without the sum. >.>

EDIT : Actually, ALL the cells are like that SUM() is best used when adding big boxes of numbers, and is needless when doing most of the things there...  Anyways, I'll stop announcing these now.

DISCLAIMER : THE CODE HAS BEEN IN NO WAY EDITED TO WORK DIFFERENTLY. EXCEPT FOR THE REMOVAL OF 'DIV/0?!' ERRORS AND STUFF.

[Caellath]

By the way, all those people (2) trying to create cannon ships actually made me want to create one myself. I'll post my design sometime later.

[Spinal_Taper]

How would one design power armor or something similar.

[10ebbor10]

How would one design power armor or something similar.

Power armor won't use the ship system. As for Skyrunner to want and build a ship, it's fine, but I would prefer if not all 3 of you would decide to take a different direction.

[adwarf]

Could you rephrase that I don't quite understand it.

[Caellath]

Could you rephrase that I don't quite understand it.

If you mean this:

As for Skyrunner to want and build a ship, it's fine, but I would prefer if not all 3 of you would decide to take a different direction.

I guess he meant he wants the captains to hang out together, making his life as a GM easier in the process.

[adwarf]

Oh well that was my plan (mostly).

[10ebbor10]

And there is the final sheet for the Night Fury, and her Captain

Spoiler: Final Character Sheet (click to show/hide)

Name: Shade, Everyone knows him as Shadow
Race: Human
Role: Captain
Ship: Night's Fury
Skills:
Close combat skill: 1014 point left
Ranged combat skill: 4
Ship combat/Heavy weaponry skill: 4
Medical skill: 4
Mechanics skill: 4
Engineering skill: 4
Social skill: 612 points left
Driving: 4
Piloting(Fighters): 4
Piloting( Large ships): 610 points left.
Stealth: 10Though it might contradict things I previously said, I think I let this skill start at 4 points. Ie , in that way you left 4 points unspent.

Inventory:
2 Medium Quality WeaponsI assume melee weapons.
1 Medium Quality Range Weapon (Pistol)
    - 10 Clips (Free)
Hacking Kit
Remote Control Implant

Bio: Shade grew up learning to fight, his father ran a combat training arena, and Shade naturally loved it. He excelled in such combat, he quickly gained rep among the people there, and fought in numerous tournaments before he was even twelve years old, by this time he had became known as the Shadow of the Blade. He went on to win numerous tournament in the local region, but in his fifth tourney win he beat the head of a local gang, and he pledged his revenge. When Shade returned he found his family dead, and over nothing more then his win in a tournament. Upon seeing this Shade ran away, escaping the world by joining a Scavenger Fleet. Over the years Shade worked his way up in the fleet until he finally became Captain of a small unnamed scavenger frigate.

On his first scavenging mission Shade stumbled upon a vast forgotten scrap field caused by some long forgotten war, within this lay a ship eons old, it was all but destroyed, the only thing left of it was a massive weapon, and a dying bridge. Salvaging these Shade made his get away fleeing from the Scavenger Fleet, and coming to a Black Market station, there he sold everything he could, and slowly began fusing the Scavenger Vessel, and the ancient weapon, and Command Bridge into one ship.

Spoiler: Night Fury (click to show/hide)

Ship Length: 300; Ship Size: 660
Deck 1: 300
Deck 2: 360

Deck Cost = 2500 + 1200 (+400) (Deck 1 Medium Armor) + 1440 (Deck 2 Medium Armor) = 5140 Credits

Deck 1 Section: Structural Health = 30, Medium Armor (40 HP)
Deck 2 Section: Structural Health = 36, Medium Armor (40 HP)


Power Generator: Size 20 Fusion Generator
Price: 1200
Power Output: 100 - 1000(Note that without heatsinks, you reactor won't be able to have an output higher then 834 due to heat limitations.)
Heat Output: 2
Fuel Required: 0.5
Reactivation Speed: Instant
Reactivating the fusion reactor after shutdown costs 50*size energy

2 Size 10 BatteriesThere's actually no point in having these, as you'll be unable to use the energy without overheating the ship. Unless you plan to fire a lot of missiles or recharge docked ships.
Price: 100 Each (200 Total)
Storage Capacity: 1000 Each

Size 40 Passive Radar
Price: 200
Energy Use: 40
Targeting Distance: 200Still a bit few, but you can fix that up with various other means

Size 40 Liquid Cooling System
Price: 100
Heat Output: -400
Resource Used: 4
Note: external but retractable structure. Non functional when retracted, does not benefit from armor bonuses when extended.

Size 20 Life Support
Price: 100
Energy Use: 40
Crew Support: 10

Size 11 BridgeYour bridge is too small. It needs to be 17 size at least.
Price: Free
Energy Consumption: 11

Size 30 Conventional Engines
Price: 150
Energy Use: 150
Max Speed Change: +- 15This should be 30, but you can't now that since I didn't change it in the rules. No wait, your engines are overloaded so that means they would have speed 14 instead.

4 Size 10 Boosters
Price: 40 Total (10 Each)You now that due to overloading each booster will only add 3 speed when activated without engine support.
Max Speed Change: +20 Each
Capacity: 100
Theoretical Max: 100
Other: Destroyed Upon Use

Size 30 Jump Drive
Price: 1500
Energy Use: 900
Charge Speed: 180 Energy
Capacity: 750Your jumpdrive is a bit way to large.

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Ship Cost: 6095
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Armaments:
3 Laser Defense Turrets
Price: 750 Total
Size: 5 Each
Energy Consumption: 20 Each
Damage: 1D6 (Shield and Armor)
Hit Chance: Certain

Hellfire Cannon - A weapon from a war that has long since faded from the annuals of even the great Librarians of Knowledge, this weapon was found deep in the scrap fields of a long forgotten war, this massive weapon consists of a solid coil built into the lower parts of the Night Fury. Connected to the coil is a massive munitions chamber that feeds large solid shells into the coil below which is rapidly fed power to magnetize the coil, and launch the shell forward at near light speed. Of course the sheer size, and power of this weapon means that its use is only a last resort.
Size: 40
Price: 6000
Energy use: 800
Accuracy: 50%
Piercing chance: 80%
Damage vs shields: 15-30
Damage vs armor:  15-80
Ammo size: Size 15 ShellsWhich weapon template did you use for this, or did you just mix and match. Anyway it seems quite balanced to me. I'm still not sure wherether or not I'll let point defenses target it.

4 Size 10 Missile LaunchersSeems fine
Price: 40
Energy Use: 10 Each
Max Missile Size: 9
Missile Capacity: 4

Two Twin Linked Size 5 Lasers
Price: 100 (50 Each)They would cost 25 each
Energy Use: 50 EachYour laser would use 25 each
Damage Vs. Shields: 5 Points to Up Max, 5 Points to Up MinA 1-2 damage would barely dent enemy ships. Besides you only have 5 points each.

Shields:
Size 40 Shield GeneratorSeems fine
Price: 600
Energy Consumption: 200
Shield Cap: 40
Shield Regen: 8

Other:
Size 70 Hellfire Ammo Chamber
Price: Free (Included in cost of gun)
Ammo Inside: 4 Shells

Size 30 Exhaust HatchYou know that this thing is completly pointless and won't give you any ingame benefit.
Price: 15
Effects: Allows you to construct internal engines up to twice the size of the exhaust hatch.

Size 20 Passive RadarWhy do you have 2 radar systems?
Price: 100
Energy Use: 20
Targetting Distance: 100

Size 80 Internal Weapon Battery (Houses the Hellfire Cannon)Again, completly pointless
Price: 80
Effects: Allows the construction of ship vs ship weapons inside the ship. Max weapon size while retaining full accuracy= 1/2 Internal weapon battery size.

Total Space Taken Up By Systems, and Such: 496, Free Space: 164

Final Cost: 16455

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:Weapon Placement:
Prow Deck 1 Segment
   ----------------------   
1 Laser Defense TurretPlacing pointdefenses on the inside of the ship seriously limits their defensive abilities( ie they are point less)

Aft Deck 1 Segment
   -------------------   
2 Laser Defense TurretsAgain, pointless defense placement. Point defense turrets need to be placed on the outside or they won't work.

Deck 2 Spinal Mounted
   -------------------
Hellfire Cannon

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Part Placement:
Deck 1
   ----------------------
Command Bridge
Liquid Cooling SystemLiquid cooling systems must be placed on the outside. Inside they won't work. You ship is shaped like an onion, with each deck wrapped inside the next one.
Twin-Linked BatteriesOutside again
Life Support
Two Size 10 BoostersAgain, must be on the outside
Shield Generator
Passive Radar
Point Defense SystemsOutside

Deck 2
   ----------------------
Fusion Generatorif I were you, I'd place this one inside, not good having your reactor shot to bits.
Conventional Engine (Located in the Exhaust Hatch)
Hellfire Munitions Chamber
Hellfire Cannon (Internal Weapon Battery)
Jump DriveSame for this one, if you have enough space.

Let me check that one again. I think I got all the complete errors. I didn't check all the numbers though.
Corrections added in red.

[adwarf]

Spoiler: Final Character Sheet (click to show/hide)

Name: Shade, Everyone knows him as Shadow
Race: Human
Role: Captain
Ship: Night's Fury
Skills:
Close combat skill: 10
Ranged combat skill: 4
Ship combat/Heavy weaponry skill: 4
Medical skill: 4
Mechanics skill: 4
Engineering skill: 4
Social skill: 10
Driving: 4
Piloting(Fighters): 4
Piloting( Large ships): 6
Stealth: 10

Inventory:
2 Medium Quality Melee Weapons
1 Medium Quality Range Weapon (Pistol)
    - 10 Clips (Free)
Hacking Kit
Remote Control Implant

Bio: Shade grew up learning to fight, his father ran a combat training arena, and Shade naturally loved it. He excelled in such combat, he quickly gained rep among the people there, and fought in numerous tournaments before he was even twelve years old, by this time he had became known as the Shadow of the Blade. He went on to win numerous tournament in the local region, but in his fifth tourney win he beat the head of a local gang, and he pledged his revenge. When Shade returned he found his family dead, and over nothing more then his win in a tournament. Upon seeing this Shade ran away, escaping the world by joining a Scavenger Fleet. Over the years Shade worked his way up in the fleet until he finally became Captain of a small unnamed scavenger frigate.

On his first scavenging mission Shade stumbled upon a vast forgotten scrap field caused by some long forgotten war, within this lay a ship eons old, it was all but destroyed, the only thing left of it was a massive weapon, and a dying bridge. Salvaging these Shade made his get away fleeing from the Scavenger Fleet, and coming to a Black Market station, there he sold everything he could, and slowly began fusing the Scavenger Vessel, and the ancient weapon, and Command Bridge into one ship.

Spoiler: Night Fury (click to show/hide)

Ship Length: 300; Ship Size: 660
Deck 1: 300
Deck 2: 360

Deck Cost = 2500 + 1200 (+400) (Deck 1 Medium Armor) + 1440 (Deck 2 Medium Armor) = 5140 Credits

Deck 1 Section: Structural Health = 30, Medium Armor (40 HP)
Deck 2 Section: Structural Health = 36, Medium Armor (40 HP)


Power Generator: Size 20 Fusion Generator
Price: 1200
Power Output: 100 - 1000
Heat Output: 2
Fuel Required: 0.5
Reactivation Speed: Instant
Reactivating the fusion reactor after shutdown costs 50*size energy

2 Size 10 Batteries
Price: 100 Each (200 Total)
Storage Capacity: 1000 Each

Size 40 Passive Radar
Price: 200
Energy Use: 40
Targeting Distance: 200

Size 40 Liquid Cooling System
Price: 100
Heat Output: -400
Resource Used: 4
Note: external but retractable structure. Non functional when retracted, does not benefit from armor bonuses when extended.

Size 20 Life Support
Price: 100
Energy Use: 40
Crew Support: 10

Size 17 Bridge
Price: Free
Energy Consumption: 11

Size 30 Conventional Engines
Price: 150
Energy Use: 150
Max Speed Change: +- 15(14(?))

4 Size 10 Boosters
Price: 40 Total (10 Each)
Max Speed Change: +20 Each
Capacity: 100
Theoretical Max: 100
Other: Destroyed Upon Use

Size 30 Jump Drive
Price: 1500
Energy Use: 900
Charge Speed: 180 Energy
Capacity: 750Your jumpdrive is a bit way to large. | I know I plan on modifying the ship a bit more in game, so I need this to compensate for what I'll add.

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Ship Cost: 6095
-----


Armaments:
3 Laser Defense Turrets
Price: 750 Total
Size: 5 Each
Energy Consumption: 20 Each
Damage: 1D6 (Shield and Armor)
Hit Chance: Certain

Hellfire Cannon - A weapon from a war that has long since faded from the annuals of even the great Librarians of Knowledge, this weapon was found deep in the scrap fields of a long forgotten war, this massive weapon consists of a solid coil built into the lower parts of the Night Fury. Connected to the coil is a massive munitions chamber that feeds large solid shells into the coil below which is rapidly fed power to magnetize the coil, and launch the shell forward at near light speed. Of course the sheer size, and power of this weapon means that its use is only a last resort.
Size: 40
Price: 6000
Energy use: 800
Accuracy: 50%
Piercing chance: 80%
Damage vs shields: 15-30
Damage vs armor:  15-80
Ammo size: Size 15 Shells

4 Size 10 Missile Launchers
Price: 40
Energy Use: 10 Each
Max Missile Size: 9
Missile Capacity: 4

Two Twin Linked Size 5 Lasers
Price: 100 (50 Each)They would cost 25 each | Twin Linked means both have two lasers connected together.
Energy Use: 50 EachYour laser would use 25 each | Theres two in each laser battery
Damage Vs. Shields: 5 Points to Up Max, 5 Points to Up MinA 1-2 damage would barely dent enemy ships. Besides you only have 5 points each.

Shields:
Size 40 Shield GeneratorSeems fine
Price: 600
Energy Consumption: 200
Shield Cap: 40
Shield Regen: 8

Other:
Size 70 Hellfire Ammo Chamber
Price: Free (Included in cost of gun)
Ammo Inside: 4 Shells

Size 30 Exhaust HatchYou know that this thing is completely pointless and won't give you any ingame benefit. | Then why even have them ?
Price: 15
Effects: Allows you to construct internal engines up to twice the size of the exhaust hatch.

Size 20 Passive RadarWhy do you have 2 radar systems?
Price: 100
Energy Use: 20
Targetting Distance: 100

Size 80 Internal Weapon Battery (Houses the Hellfire Cannon)Again, completly pointless | Then why even have them?
Price: 80
Effects: Allows the construction of ship vs ship weapons inside the ship. Max weapon size while retaining full accuracy= 1/2 Internal weapon battery size.

Total Space Taken Up By Systems, and Such: 496, Free Space: 164

Final Cost: 16455

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Deck 2 Spinal Mounted
   -------------------
Hellfire Cannon

Deck 2
   -------------------
3 Laser Defense Turrets
2 Twin-Linked Lasers

-----------------------------------------

Part Placement:
Deck 1
   ----------------------
Command Bridge
Life Support
Jump Drive
Shield Generator
Passive Radar
Conventional Engine (Located in the Exhaust Hatch)

Deck 2
   ----------------------
Fusion Generator
Point Defense Systems
Hellfire Munitions Chamber
Liquid Cooling System
Twin-Linked Batteries
Hellfire Cannon (Internal Weapon Battery)
Four Size 10 Boosters

Some I've replied to in green, others I've fixed. On a side note I though decks were stacked one on top of each other not sandwiched around each other.

[10ebbor10]

1. In that case, what's the differnce between your thing and a size 10 laser. You can't exactly suddenly compress 2 lasers into the size of one.
2. The purposes of the internal systems (hatches and weapon batteries and such) is to allow you to to build engines and weapons on decks below the outer one. There they'll be better protetced from piercing rockets.
3. I added some note to your character to.

I'll do a full sweep through the numbers later.

[Caellath]

1. In that case, what's the differnce between your thing and a size 10 laser. You can't exactly suddenly compress 2 lasers into the size of one.

Twin-Linked Lascannons reference. W40k stuff, no need to think too much about it. I guess it is mostly about the fact they are cool.

[adwarf]

:3 Yep its more for fluff reasons that its got that name, but its basically 4 size 5 lasers