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mek42

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horse trading?
« on: April 06, 2012, 06:21:29 pm »

I don't usually start butchering until year 3 or so and was wondering what I could do with the large animals that came with the wagon.  Can I breed them and then sell off the offspring?  Would I need to put them in cages first?  Would this work for cats and bunnies too?  What would happen if I sold someone's pet (is this even possible)?
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Re: horse trading?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2012, 06:26:01 pm »

They'd need to be in cages, and pets cannot be caged.  The [PETVALUE:X] determines how valuable they are to trade.

In the newest version, I think wild animals may be tradable as well.  Perhaps goblins.

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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2012, 06:35:03 pm »

woah woah woah woah.

We can move cages to the Depot without the creatures automatically being let out now? Since when?

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Re: horse trading?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 06:39:02 pm »

It's recent, I'm not sure if it actually works.

Either way, there's a trick to putting a cage on the depot, which means it won't get hauled and thus the animal won't escape.  You can dump the cage into a garbage zone which is on top of the depot, or you can build the cage into a 1x1 cubbyhole in the wall and deconstruct it, causing it to "pop out" and land on the depot.  When a dwarf tries to haul it, they'll walk over to it, and then leave it, because it's already on the depot.

Goblins have been traded using this method.  You just have to make sure the cage is atop the depot before you assign it to be traded.

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Re: horse trading?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2012, 06:46:56 pm »

Wait until year three and butcher all the horses that you have at that point.

Living creatures don't have a quality level attached to them.
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Re: horse trading?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2012, 06:47:29 pm »

Living creatures don't have a quality level attached to them.
Bone crafts and prepared meals do.

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 06:50:14 pm »

Bone crafts and prepared meals do.

There is a kind of morbid beauty in that everything in Dwarf Fortress is more valuable dead than alive.

It makes me feel all tingly inside.
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Re: horse trading?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2012, 07:31:14 pm »

In my current community fort, I have successfully traded semi-trained giant animals to the trade caravans.  I don't know if it's possible to trade completely wild animals yet, but trained and tame ones should work fine.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 02:02:39 am »

Could you use webbed traps to cage and sell pets?  Would the owner suffer an unhappy thought?  Maybe you could even use this method to sell stray dwarven children.  Perhaps we could supply the elven meat industry with fine quality dwarf veal (contained in nickle cages, of course).
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2012, 02:07:34 am »

I can safely say, anything in a cage may be traded, altho the value of such a trade, might not be worthwhile. i remember selling wild animals to a trader, and getting very little tacked on to the cage value.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2012, 02:14:48 am »

Could you use webbed traps to cage and sell pets?  Would the owner suffer an unhappy thought?  Maybe you could even use this method to sell stray dwarven children.  Perhaps we could supply the elven meat industry with fine quality dwarf veal (contained in nickle cages, of course).
my experiences with playing as goblins tells me this may qualify as "abduction".
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 05:11:43 am »

They'd need to be in cages, and pets cannot be caged.  The [PETVALUE:X] determines how valuable they are to trade.

In the newest version, I think wild animals may be tradable as well.  Perhaps goblins.


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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2012, 05:16:25 am »

Could you use webbed traps to cage and sell pets?  Would the owner suffer an unhappy thought?  Maybe you could even use this method to sell stray dwarven children.  Perhaps we could supply the elven meat industry with fine quality dwarf veal (contained in nickle cages, of course).
my experiences with playing as goblins tells me this may qualify as "abduction".

And?
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2012, 09:58:18 am »

Better yet, you can fill the hospital's ICU ward with cage traps.
Let the Elves be torn apart by the vengeful ghosts, and save yourself the trouble of tombs and slabs.
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2012, 10:22:53 am »

Could you use webbed traps to cage and sell pets?  Would the owner suffer an unhappy thought?  Maybe you could even use this method to sell stray dwarven children.  Perhaps we could supply the elven meat industry with fine quality dwarf veal (contained in nickle cages, of course).
my experiences with playing as goblins tells me this may qualify as "abduction".

And?
That dictates how the dwarves' thoughts get influenced by such removals. As I recall, dwarven parents don't give a damn when their children are abducted.
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