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I consider it an essential part of Dwaf Fortress, and can't play without it.

119 (18.4%)

I use it for pretty screenshots, but otherwise don't use it during play.

211 (32.7%)

I only try it occasionally.

174 (27%)

I have no idea why I'm even in this thread, I don't use it.

141 (21.9%)

Total Members Voted: 642

[Dirst]

A big thanks to everyone who makes Stonesense a reality.

After banging my head against the raws and DFHack, I now have a small mod functional enough to worry about what it looks like.  I was able to visually differentiate two dozen castes with a ridiculously small amount of XML:

Code: (tesb_awakened_stone.xml) [Select]

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<creatures file="tesb_awakened_stone.png">
 <creature gameID="AWAKENED_STONE" sheetIndex = 0  color="bodypart" bodypart="skin">
     <subsprite sheetIndex="1" color="bodypart" bodypart="eyes" pattern_index="2"/>
 </creature>
</creatures>
which just goads me into making some animations and stances that depend on neighboring tiles.

On the other hand, I can't make heads or tails out of the building XML.  Is there a relatively simple readme somewhere about Stonesense buildings?  The workshops are all 3x3 and symmetric, so I wouldn't need any of the fancy rotation logic that seems to be embedded in there.

Edit: This is probably a DFHack issue rather than a Stonesense issue, but polling the "eyes" color isn't working for my creature or the included creatures.  For now I'll just specify each caste's eye color explicitly.  Still stymied on buildings, though.

[Rose]

The building raws are, quite frankly, rather obtuse, and I don't fully undersrand them myself fully.

[Dirst]

The building raws are, quite frankly, rather obtuse, and I don't fully undersrand them myself fully.

Well I do have some guano, eye of newt and quicksilver... so I'm ready for any black magic necessary.

Is there an example of an included 3x3 workshop that uses 9 different tiles?  I should be able to clone that at the worst.  The Still has 9 different tiles in the main interface, though that doesn't necessarily translate to the Stonesense equivalent.

[Rose]

I think the soapmaker's workshop might be the one to copy, since it's also a custom workshop.

In other news, this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Dirst]

I think the soapmaker's workshop might be the one to copy, since it's also a custom workshop.

In other news, this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Thanks, and the other news is gorgeous.

[MarcAFK]

It's amazing, even if it was confused for a bit thinking this was Japa's other thread "Looks odd for minecraft...uh wait. WOW the trees!"

[Ferigad]

Hello! ^^

Well i played Dwarf Fortress for some years now. But i always used lazy newb pack with some of the graphic packs. Recently i saw that stonesense can be used as a real interface. Well...

So here is what i did. I downloaded the version that is compatible with DFhack 0.40.08-r2 . That was DF 0.40.08 SDL version. Then i downloaded the DFHack. I checked the readme, started it, made a new world and used the command "Stonesense overlay". But no matter what i do... it always ends with a Windows Error that Dwarf Fortress.exe had to be closed because of an error. No Bug report is generated. I use a Windows 8 64-Bit system and i would guess thats the closest explanation why that crash occurs.  It would be cool if somebody would have a idear what to do. So far i tryed a Win-7 compatibility on dwarf fortress.exe and i tryed to deactivate all plugins from DFhack before launch the stonesense overlay so far without any sucess.

As a sitenote, if i only activate stonesense without the overlay command, it works. But i would prefer it with overlay :/

Oh well! My bad, there is a log that was created at crash. But it shows me no information that i could use to fix my issue.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

FirstCall()
Initized HOOKS!
Identifying DF version.
Loading hack\symbols.xml ... OK
Dummy symbol table entry: start_dwarf_count
Dummy symbol table entry: start_dwarf_count
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nopause
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nomoods
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_combat
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_wildlife
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nodrink
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_noeat
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nosleep
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_showambush
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_fastmining
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nothought
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_noberserk
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_turbospeed
Dummy symbol table entry: save_on_exit
Dummy symbol table entry: start_dwarf_count
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nopause
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nomoods
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_combat
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_wildlife
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nodrink
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_noeat
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nosleep
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_showambush
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_fastmining
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nothought
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_noberserk
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_turbospeed
Dummy symbol table entry: save_on_exit
Dummy symbol table entry: start_dwarf_count
Dummy symbol table entry: cursor
Dummy symbol table entry: selection_rect
Dummy symbol table entry: gamemode
Dummy symbol table entry: gametype
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_menu_width
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_area_map_width
Dummy symbol table entry: created_item_type
Dummy symbol table entry: created_item_subtype
Dummy symbol table entry: created_item_mattype
Dummy symbol table entry: created_item_matindex
Dummy symbol table entry: created_item_count
Dummy symbol table entry: map_renderer
Dummy symbol table entry: d_init
Dummy symbol table entry: enabler
Dummy symbol table entry: flows
Dummy symbol table entry: gps
Dummy symbol table entry: gview
Dummy symbol table entry: init
Dummy symbol table entry: texture
Dummy symbol table entry: timed_events
Dummy symbol table entry: ui
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_advmode
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_build_selector
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_building_assign_type
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_building_assign_is_marked
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_building_assign_units
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_building_assign_items
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_look_list
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_sidebar_menus
Dummy symbol table entry: world
Dummy symbol table entry: announcements
Dummy symbol table entry: cur_year
Dummy symbol table entry: cur_year_tick
Dummy symbol table entry: cur_year_tick_advmode
Dummy symbol table entry: cur_season
Dummy symbol table entry: cur_season_tick
Dummy symbol table entry: current_weather
Dummy symbol table entry: pause_state
Dummy symbol table entry: process_dig
Dummy symbol table entry: process_jobs
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_building_in_assign
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_building_in_resize
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_building_item_cursor
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_look_cursor
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_selected_unit
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_unit_view_mode
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_workshop_in_add
Dummy symbol table entry: ui_workshop_job_cursor
Dummy symbol table entry: window_x
Dummy symbol table entry: window_y
Dummy symbol table entry: window_z
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nopause
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nomoods
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_combat
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_wildlife
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nodrink
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_noeat
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nosleep
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_showambush
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_fastmining
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nothought
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_noberserk
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_turbospeed
Dummy symbol table entry: save_on_exit
Dummy symbol table entry: start_dwarf_count
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nopause
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nomoods
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_combat
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_wildlife
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nodrink
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_noeat
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nosleep
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_showambush
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_fastmining
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_nothought
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_noberserk
Dummy symbol table entry: debug_turbospeed
Dummy symbol table entry: save_on_exit
Dummy symbol table entry: start_dwarf_count
Loaded 6 DF symbol tables.
Version: v0.40.08 SDL
Initializing Console.
Console is running.
Initializing Plugins.
d_init: 364
world: 2460152 ui: 31024 b_stock: 1644
Starting IO thread.
Starting DF input capture thread.
Starting the TCP listener.
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-W twaterlvl
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-V digv
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-V "digv x"
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-C spotclean
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-K autodump-destroy-here
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-K autodump-destroy-item
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Alt-S@dwarfmode/Default quicksave
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-N gui/rename
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-T "gui/rename unit-profession"
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-P command-prompt
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-B adv-bodyswap
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-B "adv-bodyswap force"
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-A@legends "exportlegends all"
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-D@legends "exportlegends maps"
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-Z@dwarfmode/Default "stocks show"
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-I@dwarfmode/Default "gui/dfstatus"
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-P copystock
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-D job-duplicate
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-A "job-material ALUNITE"
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-M "job-material MICROCLINE"
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-D "job-material DACITE"
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-R "job-material RHYOLITE"
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-I "job-material CINNABAR"
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-B "job-material COBALTITE"
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-O "job-material OBSIDIAN"
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-T "job-material ORTHOCLASE"
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-G "job-material GLASS_GREEN"
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-Shift-N "sort-units name" "sort-items description"
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-Shift-R "sort-units arrival"
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-Shift-T "sort-units profession" "sort-items type material"
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-Shift-Q "sort-units squad_position" "sort-items quality"
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-M@dwarfmode/QueryBuilding/Some gui/mechanisms
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-R@dwarfmode/QueryBuilding/Some gui/room-list
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-L@dwarfmode/LookAround gui/liquids
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-M@dwarfmode/Build/Position/Trap gui/power-meter
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-A@dwarfmode/QueryBuilding/Some/SiegeEngine gui/siege-engine
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-W@layer_military/Equip/Customize/View gui/choose-weapons
Invoking: keybinding add Ctrl-C@layer_military/Uniforms gui/clone-uniform
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-P@dwarfmode/Hauling/DefineStop/Cond/Guide gui/guide-path
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-A@dwarfmode/QueryBuilding/Some/Workshop/Job gui/workshop-jobDFHack is running.

Invoking: keybinding add Alt-W@dwarfmode/QueryBuilding/Some/Workshop/Job gui/workflow
Invoking: keybinding add Alt-W@overallstatus "gui/workflow status"
Invoking: keybinding add Shift-B@pet/List/Unit "gui/autobutcher"
Invoking: keybinding add P@dwarfmode/QueryBuilding/Some/Weaponrack gui/assign-rack
Invoking: tweak stable-cursor
Invoking: tweak patrol-duty
Invoking: tweak advmode-contained
Invoking: tweak fast-trade
Invoking: tweak military-stable-assign
Invoking: tweak military-color-assigned
Invoking: tweak craft-age-wear
Invoking: enable manipulator
Invoking: enable search
Invoking: enable automaterial
Invoking: stockflow enable
Invoking: soundsense-season
Invoking: log-region
C:\DwarfF\hack\scripts/log-region.lua:30: attempt to index local 'fort_ent' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
   C:\DwarfF\hack\scripts/log-region.lua:30: in function <C:\DwarfF\hack\scripts/log-region.lua:14>
Invoking: stonesense
Client connection established.
Client connection established.
Shutting down client connection.
stonesense\growths\base_trees_foliage.xml: Invalid or missing part attribute: growth (Line 28)
stonesense\growths\base_trees_foliage.xml: Invalid or missing part attribute: growth (Line 38)
Material subtype not found in MaterialTypeCondition: BERRIES_STRAW_WILD
stonesense\vegetation\shrubs.xml: No matching plant type: plant (Line 13)
stonesense\items\items.xml: <item> unknown game_type value: item (Line 58)
Invoking: stonesense overlay
Attempt to create class 'renderer' without known vtable.

[PeridexisErrant]

Hello! ^^

Well i played Dwarf Fortress for some years now. But i always used lazy newb pack with some of the graphic packs. Recently i saw that stonesense can be used as a real interface. Well...

So here is what i did. I downloaded the version that is compatible with DFhack 0.40.08-r2 . That was DF 0.40.08 SDL version. Then i downloaded the DFHack. I checked the readme, started it, made a new world and used the command "Stonesense overlay". But no matter what i do... it always ends with a Windows Error that Dwarf Fortress.exe had to be closed because of an error. No Bug report is generated. I use a Windows 8 64-Bit system and i would guess thats the closest explanation why that crash occurs.  It would be cool if somebody would have a idear what to do. So far i tryed a Win-7 compatibility on dwarf fortress.exe and i tryed to deactivate all plugins from DFhack before launch the stonesense overlay so far without any sucess.

As a sitenote, if i only activate stonesense without the overlay command, it works. But i would prefer it with overlay :/

Oh well! My bad, there is a log that was created at crash. But it shows me no information that i could use to fix my issue.

AFAIK, there's no official stonesense for 40.xx yet - you can still get the 34.11 Starter Pack with the overlay though.

[Ferigad]

Okay, but why is it included in DFHack 40.08-r2 ? From what i saw so far it seems to work at least for some persons, i tryed some searches before. Not completly stable, but it seems to be in common use for the DFHack 40.08-r2 in conjunction with the Dwarf Fortress 40.08 SDL version.

[Caldfir]

Okay, but why is it included in DFHack 40.08-r2 ? From what i saw so far it seems to work at least for some persons, i tryed some searches before. Not completly stable, but it seems to be in common use for the DFHack 40.08-r2 in conjunction with the Dwarf Fortress 40.08 SDL version.

Hmm, that's an odd error.  It sounds like the DFHack "renderer" class isn't up-to-date with the DF-actual-renderer. 

The overlay is still an experimental feature (you can't really play DF with just the overlay yet), and DFHack is still catching up with DF updates, so this is sort of expected right now.  I'll try to get some bugfixes together when things are more stable. 

[mifki]

Yes, vtable address for renderer class is missing from dfhack for 0.40.xx

[ArcaneBoozery]

The overlay is still an experimental feature (you can't really play DF with just the overlay yet), ...

Is there a place which describes in detail how the overlay works, and what it does and does not do? By that I mean in one place, not spread out over a hundred page thread. If not, could you maybe summarize it here in a few sentences? I heard recently that people were able to hook Stonesense into the game so that it works like a true graphical interface, but it's been impossible  for me to track down detailed info on that, as most stuff here seems to exist over many pages in various threads.

[Rose]

Stonesense was able to render directly onto the DF screen, instead of its own window, but that doesn't work for the new version of DF yet.

[Octopusfluff]

Is there a place which describes in detail how the overlay works, and what it does and does not do? By that I mean in one place, not spread out over a hundred page thread. If not, could you maybe summarize it here in a few sentences? I heard recently that people were able to hook Stonesense into the game so that it works like a true graphical interface, but it's been impossible  for me to track down detailed info on that, as most stuff here seems to exist over many pages in various threads.

That kind of documentation is generally reserved for legitimately complete features, rather than "oh hey, cool hack in progress".

[Dirst]

I think the soapmaker's workshop might be the one to copy, since it's also a custom workshop.

In other news, this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Thanks again for the pointer to custom workshops.  I put a really simple example of a workshop onto the wiki.  There are still a lot of parameters that I don't understand, but the example demonstrates that they aren't strictly necessary to get a basic workshop going.