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Reudh

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #75 on: February 01, 2012, 10:07:18 pm »

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #76 on: February 01, 2012, 10:25:01 pm »

Wasn't that the thing with the restaurant with the wifi fail?
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #77 on: February 02, 2012, 06:08:46 am »

The "filling" will probably affect the chainmail as well. Using an axe on it while it's on wood, or on a melon, or on a human, will change the way it breaks.
Having soft human inside will be better for the mail than a wood block, I think, but getting the exact right consistency of bone, tissue, fat, skin, and cloth-padding is going to be hard without resorting to siblings.

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #78 on: February 02, 2012, 10:17:20 am »

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #79 on: February 02, 2012, 04:57:21 pm »

Wasn't that the thing with the restaurant with the wifi fail?
The wifi didn't fail too much. But yes, I think you're thinking of the right event.

The "filling" will probably affect the chainmail as well. Using an axe on it while it's on wood, or on a melon, or on a human, will change the way it breaks.
Having soft human inside will be better for the mail than a wood block, I think, but getting the exact right consistency of bone, tissue, fat, skin, and cloth-padding is going to be hard without resorting to siblings.
I think that putting it on a wood block will effectively demonstrate a "worst-case scenario" for a chainmail impact.
It seems that the thing that Girlinhat is looking to test is not what realistically happens to the chainmail when it impacts a human wearing it, so much as what happens when you chop some chainmail with an axe.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #80 on: February 02, 2012, 05:20:11 pm »

That's a great point, Lectorog.  But i think even then we would all be left imagining what would happen to a body.  But ultimately, unless it is tested on a person, that question would remain.  So i think you are right.  Testing on a hard surface is plenty good enough.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #81 on: February 02, 2012, 05:33:30 pm »

Titanium I'm sure would resist EVERYTHING.  That's an expensive and unfair test :P

No, it is not. Titanium, for example, has a Young's modulus of merely 116 GPa, whilst A-2 tool steel, which is about as generic as tool steel gets, has to have 190-210 GPa.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #82 on: February 02, 2012, 05:52:20 pm »

Pure titanium or industrial-grade alloy?  Steel is an alloy, this is why it's strong.  Iron, from which steel is derived, is extremely brittle and weak.  Everything worth using is alloyed, and comparing an alloy (steel) to a non-alloy (pure titanium) isn't a fair comparison.  It's like comparing a pear and an apple pie.

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #83 on: February 02, 2012, 05:53:15 pm »

Pure titanium, yes... A titanium alloy would no doubt be much stronger.

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #84 on: February 02, 2012, 06:32:44 pm »

What they sell at TRL is either commercially pure titanium, which has the characteristics stated above, or Grade 5 alloy (TI-AL6-V4), which still has a Young's modulus of 110 GPa and a tensile strength of ~1000 MPa. Compare that to TRL's spring-tempered stainless (Alloy 304) that, again, goes up to around 190 GPa and a tensile strength of up to 1900 MPa. That is, nearly double of that titanium alloy's.

Gentlemen, spring-tempered stainless is obviously the badass metal suited for Dwarves. They shall have none of this titanium matter.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #85 on: February 03, 2012, 11:55:48 am »

I am making a sheet of EU 10-1, and will stab it with a spear, and shoot it with a crossbow. Pics shall be posted.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #86 on: February 03, 2012, 12:17:40 pm »

Euro 10 in 1? Holy moly! What diameter, aspect ration and material are you using?
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #87 on: February 03, 2012, 02:37:35 pm »

Euro 10 in 1? Holy moly! What diameter, aspect ration and material are you using?
14 gauge galvy wire, half inch in diameter.
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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #88 on: February 04, 2012, 05:11:12 pm »

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Finished this bracelet yesterday (this morning?  2 AM either way...) and decided to get a picture of the axe and the new bracelet.  $50 for this, crazy tiny micromail, 5+ hours of work.

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Re: Poll for Interest: Chainmail Stress Test
« Reply #89 on: February 04, 2012, 05:35:49 pm »

That is one big axe.
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