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Max White

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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #165 on: January 29, 2012, 02:19:39 am »

They will like what I tell them to like.


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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #166 on: January 29, 2012, 02:20:12 am »

The rebels hate your freedom!
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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #167 on: January 29, 2012, 02:23:24 am »

I stand for justice, freedom, and the earthling way! Only commie terrorists would oppose me!

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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #168 on: January 29, 2012, 02:24:52 am »

The United Earth Unions. That is a lot of unification you have going on there.
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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #169 on: January 29, 2012, 02:26:14 am »

Exactly, you want to be part of the unification don't you? Everybody wants to belong!

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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #170 on: January 29, 2012, 02:30:02 am »

Everybody somehow excluding the lunar colonists you want to slaughter.
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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #171 on: January 29, 2012, 02:31:40 am »

For their own good!
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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #172 on: January 29, 2012, 02:32:29 am »

For the good of humanity!

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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #173 on: January 29, 2012, 02:35:03 am »

Which they are technically part of even if they are freedom hating bastards!
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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #174 on: January 29, 2012, 02:36:44 am »

So, the colonists who are rebelling to gain their independence are the freedom hating bastards, and your unified One World Union is....not?
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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #175 on: January 29, 2012, 02:39:54 am »

They aren't rebelling to gain freedom, after all, anything we did to them was only out our retaliation to protect potential war going citizens like yourself! No, they just want to take away the Earth Dreamtm.

Also, speaking of the Earth Dreamtm.

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« Reply #176 on: January 29, 2012, 03:39:21 am »

Yeah, mooncolonists won't revolt. They would not be like any average person, they'd be screened and vetted for the job and likely be proven to be loyal and trustworthy. They'd also need to be hardworking, anal retentive and never prone to boredom or apathy. Basically, they'd need to be as much like robots as possible. So I think they'll probably just use actual robots programed for certain tasks and/or remotely operated from earth.

Anyways, the only resource worth a damn on the moon is the H3 on the 'topsoil' there (~100 USD/ liter, atm) and demand for that will only pick up when there is practical fusion reactors that'd require it, which there isn't.  They are not going to mine iron ore there worth 115 USD/ton and whatever, export roofing nails back to earth at 5000 USD/ pound for a profit.
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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #177 on: January 29, 2012, 04:09:23 am »

Republicans only want a moon base to set new golf driving records.

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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #178 on: January 29, 2012, 05:18:55 am »


  Earth has a lot of resources the moon wants and is willing to pay to import.  The moon has a shitload of solar energy the earth wants and can be used for scientific endevors. 

There are a few problems with lunar power production:

- Not constant: The moon has a day/night cycle. Since night/ day on the moon are rather long, you'd need a large amount of storage if you're going to survive solely on solqr power

-Vulnerable: There are many disasters that could damage your solar power panels, ranging from micrometeroids to solar flares. Because of the lack of an atmosphere/electromagnetic field, these are much more frequent then on earth. Solar flares are exceptionally dangerous, as they can knock your entire system offline for a couple of months. (And no burying wouldn't help, as there isn't much light under the ground)

- Transfer: How are you going to get power back to the earth. Batteries aren't an option. You could try using concentrated microwaves, but microwaving the earth's atmosphere doesn't seem to be a very good idea to me. You could construct a giant laser to laser the power back to earth, but that would only get the power to orbit, rather than all the way down to the ground.


Speaking of giant lasers, you could use these to launch spaceships from earth into orbit. Also, a Moon base isn't going to be profitable until we have properly working He3 fusion(which we don't). Bad news is, we can't properly research He3  fusion until we have acces to it, as the earth's supplies are virtually non existent.

As for solar wind farms, these provide even less energy, and might be better used as a way of slowly getting spaceships to the outer layers. (These do use electricity) Also funny, electromagnetic solar sails can also propulse themselves using planets electromagnetical fields.
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Re: A Base on the Moon
« Reply #179 on: January 29, 2012, 11:29:53 am »

Yeah, mooncolonists won't revolt. They would not be like any average person, they'd be screened and vetted for the job and likely be proven to be loyal and trustworthy. They'd also need to be hardworking, anal retentive and never prone to boredom or apathy. Basically, they'd need to be as much like robots as possible. So I think they'll probably just use actual robots programed for certain tasks and/or remotely operated from earth.

Anyways, the only resource worth a damn on the moon is the H3 on the 'topsoil' there (~100 USD/ liter, atm) and demand for that will only pick up when there is practical fusion reactors that'd require it, which there isn't.  They are not going to mine iron ore there worth 115 USD/ton and whatever, export roofing nails back to earth at 5000 USD/ pound for a profit.

We have a large demand for satellites in orbit.  It's easier to get something on the moon in orbit then it is to get something on earth in orbit.
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