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[Kassil]

If we're modding all civs for playability, we could implement a fort-mode round robin on civs to try keeping the numbers up. Like, for instance, player 1 is Dwarf, 2 is Human, 3 is Elf, 4 is Goblin, 5 is kobold, and so on, for however many playable civs there are.

[Rose]

I mean in the sense that the town humans are growing old as time goes on, but no new ones are being made.

[Eric Blank]

what do you think of feasibility of everyone using a 2x2 embark instead of standard? Could that cut down enough to make a difference?

If we're modding all civs for playability, we could implement a fort-mode round robin on civs to try keeping the numbers up. Like, for instance, player 1 is Dwarf, 2 is Human, 3 is Elf, 4 is Goblin, 5 is kobold, and so on, for however many playable civs there are.

I wouldn't vote for either of these, just because it would probably be better for players to make these decisions on their own. The file won't grow all too quickly, and leaving all the races available and then requesting that a certain player play as a certain race would likely be unpopular.

We could set a cap on the maximum size of an embark though. Say, 4x4 is plenty of room for just about anything, unless you have an idea for an enormous bridge or something that everyone else would agree to. I'm running a 7x7 embark right now in some incredibly tall mountains (150+ z-levels from top to bottom of above-ground landscape. Another 100 or so underground including the 50 z-level first cavern layer), and I'll see how far I can push it before it becomes too enormous for the DFFD, or anyone's RAM. Or my hardrive, seeing as how I only have 5gbs of free space left, and I'd guess that would be similar to the highest possible size a file could be.

And yes, Japa, they will. However, the plan to deal with humans (or dwarves!) dieing off before adventurers get to adventure was to remove their MAXAGE tags after generation (but removing them before generation would wreak havoc on historical figures.) Probably work. Probably...

[Vodrilus]

And yes, Japa, they will. However, the plan to deal with humans (or dwarves!) dieing off before adventurers get to adventure was to remove their MAXAGE tags after generation (but removing them before generation would wreak havoc on historical figures.) Probably work. Probably...

Cool. The ghosts shouldn't die of old age, either. (Probably fixed already, though.)

[Spish]

The test world is finished and uploaded. OCD got the better of me and I ended putting way more effort into it than I should've. Now to make a legit adventurer and explore the rest of these forts.
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5456

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Since there was absolutely nothing nasty to infest it with (because Poindex generated a world without goblins, evil, or savagery), I settled on doing something new and retiring it the DFmode way; as a living, breathing 100-man fortress. If yer interested in seeing what one of these dwarf-infested dungeons is like in adventure mode, or what it's like to declare war on one, here's a fine example.  All artifacts are in their respective workshops on the ground floor. Only military dwarves will give out quests. The dwarves are at war with elves, so don't expect much in the way of hospitality if you're one of those guys.

In addition, there's a 30 level circus tent containing a masterwork Adamantine Long Sword. To get to it, you follow the green path at the bottom of the miner's ramp. At first, the structure will be completely empty (because the game will only bother to generate demons and undead if it knows the adventurer can reach it); but you can fix this by going to sleep just outside the structure after you've lowered the nearby bridge. You'll probably even meet some brave dwarf warriors on the way down (lie on the ground to get past them). Below the barrier, there's a 16 level hell cavern. I wouldn't recommend trying to descend any further than the sword unless you have plenty of meat shield with you.

Fun facts: Artifact cloaks are impervious to daggers. Large gems make amazing weapons. And you can quite easily drill someone's head off with a steel corkscrew. Pay no mind the legends entry about a dwarf merchant "guided by forces unknown" whose destiny was accidentally becoming locked in a Trade Depot and starving to death.

Something else I thought was neat. In this pocket world, you originally couldn't make a dwarf adventurer because there were no surviving dwarf civilizations (they had been wiped out by the elves). Now you can select "Dwarf of Zasit Torul," and it highlights the location of Romancewhipped, the new capital of Dwarfdom

All non-historical wild and tame animals/monsters (even ones owned by dwarves) disappear from existence after retiring the fortress, which is rather disappointing, but it is preventable if you have a good supply of sentient sacrifices to feed them.

[Poindexterity]

i didnt mean to make such a friendly world.
i really didnt pay any attention to it, honestly.

[Elifre]

On the plus side, I've yet to run into a human or elven caravan with said world. I've been using it as a test site for about four in-game years now, and only seen dwarven caravans. I -did- see a FB, so at least they're around.

Still, no sieges.

[Spish]

I had an elf siege at the beginning of my second year. I was able to crush them despite a complete lack of trained military personnel. Never saw them again after that.

I found something even more distressing about artifacts. I went to my fort and grabbed Taxedhumid the artifact pig tail cloak and Summittunnel the artifact silk veil, put both on, then grabbed Lonesomeballs the red zircon scepter and Ransackedrain the artifact gold buckler. I continued to Shadyportals and snagged the artifact gemstone flute known as "The Universe of Shooting," and another I forgot the name of. I traveled a bit more and stopped to look over my collection of priceless artifacts, only to discover they had all disappeared from my inventory! (even the ones I was wearing)

It's completely impossible to keep artifacts after leaving their site of origin
Though we might be able to get Toady to fix this issue by the time our world is finished

[Poindexterity]

I traveled a bit more and stopped to look over my collection of priceless artifacts, only to discover they had all disappeared from my inventory! (even the ones I was wearing)

It's completely impossible to keep artifacts after leaving their site of origin

horror of horrors!

[Eric Blank]

A doomsday prophecy, even!

[Vodrilus]

Instead of a mortifying obstacle, perhaps this is a great opportunity to provide the adventurer with mission-specific gear. No?

[Eric Blank]

That's a very good idea, actually.

Also, the testing of fortress size limits progresses slowly. this embark increased the size of the file by 400mb, but since then hasn't changed regardless of progress. As long as we keep it down to 4x4 or so at most, I would wager that the size increase would be very well-managed.

[Vodrilus]

Thank God dial-up is a thing of the past...

[DS]

That's a very good idea, actually.

Also, the testing of fortress size limits progresses slowly. this embark increased the size of the file by 400mb, but since then hasn't changed regardless of progress. As long as we keep it down to 4x4 or so at most, I would wager that the size increase would be very well-managed.

I think limiting players to a maximum area of 16 square units (4x4, 3x5, or 2x8 max) would be acceptable to most people. Opinions?

[Gizogin]

I use 4x4 embarks anyway, so I'm fine with that restriction.