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[A Spoony Bard]

Well, I know what my fort will be like...
But I have three questions...
1: Levers can be activated in Adventure Mode, Right?
2: If I contain many dwarves behind a floodgate, will they get out if the site is reloaded?
3: How do you use DFhack and the Mode option to make your fort a settlement?

[Rainseeker]

Well, I know what my fort will be like...
But I have three questions...
1: Levers can be activated in Adventure Mode, Right?
2: If I contain many dwarves behind a floodgate, will they get out if the site is reloaded?
3: How do you use DFhack and the Mode option to make your fort a settlement?

Adventurer:   Finally, arriving at Spoonybard Fortress!  Hm, there's nobody around.  Oh, look!  A lever.  It must be the doorbell.  Let's pull it!  I suppose while I'm waiting I should see what the pamphlet says about this place.
Pamphlet:  "Spoonybard Fortress" is a quaint fortress community in the mountains of Thunderruns near the brook Omenapple. While visiting there guests may be pleased to watch the annual "Trolling of the Adventurer," where the contents of the completely flooded fortress are poured upon a hapless adventurer from the front gate, drowned bodies and all.
Adventurer:  Aww, crap.

[Eric Blank]

3: How do you use DFhack and the Mode option to make your fort a settlement?

You follow rumrusher's second set of instructions, and when using df mode, just type c (to cahnge modes) and then 1-enter-1-enter, which selects adventure mode. Then just give in to starvation in the exit menu that you had open the entire time to avoid unforseen consequences of not following instructions.

Spoiler: A lot of words (click to show/hide)

And here I was hoping to get more than one turn out by the end of this (so many ideas).

Still messing around with the world map, I'm quite satisfied with what I see so far.
Some pointless observations:
-The first thing you see when you go to embark is "Brook: Screamslaughter"
-Yeah, there are weird pockets of scorching and freezing air all over the place, hot areas bordering cold ones, etc. Don't know what's up with that; a side effect of Perfect World? Other than that, the temperature zones seem pretty fitting.

damn, no warm evil deserts

You're in luck, that desert happens to be surprisingly hot for where it is.
-The civilization sites don't seem very spread out in adventure mode. Did you remember to turn off the pop/site cap? Or does the world need more civs+baking time?
-There are plenty of great cliffs around, kudos.
-Turns out there IS sand in the wastelands, you just have to look for it. There's definitely some factor controlling the amount of sand, drainage maybe?
-Honestly, I think I prefer my desert embarks relatively flat. Extreme cliffs in some places would be neat though.
-On an 80 z-level flatland embark, the first cave was 17 z's down, the second nearby at 23 (with a magma tube), magma sea at 50, and a whole 25 layers between there and the HFS. Half of the areas seem to be short on flux and sedimentary layers, because of the high volcanicity, ruining otherwise perfect embark opportunities (although the gratuitous veins of gold on the surface were a pleasant surprise).
-Found a really interesting embark. In a lake valley, with a temperate forest peninsula separated from a 30 story rock wall by 13 spaces of lake. The cliff at the top is in the shape of a near-perfect square (tempting to install an artificial waterfall up there).
As a high elevation embark, there are about 25 Z-levels till the magma sea (in retrospect, less Z-levels is a good thing, since we'll be working under a time limit). It even has sand, flux, magma tube, and an upright adamantine sword (curious underground structure). There was an aquifer apparently, but I never saw it where I was diggin. In the next version, I imagine dumping bodies in the evil lake would allow them to later emerge as zombies.

Acknowledged. Trying to figure out what's up with the temperatures. perfect world can't affect temperatures directly, but I did use the temperature frequency mesh option to set it to 32x32, 5, 1, 5, 1, 5. I thought it would just distribute them normally but with a higher percentage of hot, cold, and moderate. Unfortunately it seems to have just tossed 32x32 squares out over the surface with those ratios of temperatures. I removed that from world gen so I have no clue what it's problem is now.

In other news, I used the volcanism mesh weights for the next gen. I'll post that save and a picture soon.


prototype #4: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=5342

Picture!
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4443/worldmapregion528410081.png

Spoiler: open the link if you aren't using a movie theater projector for a display (click to show/hide)

Humorously, a volcano cropped up right in the middle of that canal connecting the ocean to the tiny inland sea, seperating the two.

[Epithemius]

I'm in. Considering the list is that long, however, it may take just little bit of time to get to my turn.

[Eric Blank]

Indeed. 34 potential players (doubtless someone will drop out/need to be skipped)

Turn list:

1)   Poindexterity
2)   Girlinhat
3)   Loud Whispers
4)   Di
5)   Kassil
6)   Spish
7)   starshard0
   Oliolli
9)   DS
10)   Babylon
11)   Armeleon
12)   A Spoony Bard
13)   Eric Blank (13 again! Woo!)
14)   Greatorder
15)   Vattic?
16)   clockout1
17)   ayoriceball
18)   Masta Crouton?
19)   Ghills
20)   Wannazzaki?
21)   DwarvenScience
22)   Rainseeker
23)   Cellmonk
24)   Lexx
25)   Monkeyfacedprickleback
26)   Pranz
27)   TomIrony
28)   Gizogin
29)   Vodrilus
30)   Shmadolf shmitler
31)   Elifre
32)   Scriabin
33)   Terra_Inc
34)   Epithemius

[clockout1]

I counted, and with 34 people, this will take around nine months. I'm hoping the list shrinks. :3

[Cellmonk]

I counted, and with 34 people, this will take around nine months. I'm hoping the list shrinks. :3

This is a child. you can't rush a child.
Though dwarven daycare would work better if gestation was less than nine months...

You know what? Its dwarfy to rip a child in the zygote stage out of its mother, and grow it a vat full of carp.

LETS DO THIS!

(If it is going to take nine months, I think we might want to start AFTER the next release, rather than before, seeing how close it is. It will make my plans to do an zombie frozen mountain fort more !!FUN!!. Current terrifying isn't quite... interesting.. enough to be worth it. And next release is much more interesting for adventurers)

[Ghills]

Wow. This really expanded since I saw it last.

I'm all in favor of pulling out MAXAGE after world gen.

Also, that's really a lot of people.  I'm happy to either have shorter turns or multiple worlds so we don't leave people to wait for months and months.

If it is going to take nine months, I think we might want to start AFTER the next release, rather than before, seeing how close it is. It will make my plans to do an zombie frozen mountain fort more !!FUN!!. Current terrifying isn't quite... interesting.. enough to be worth it. And next release is much more interesting for adventurers)

It's already been decided that we're waiting for the next release.

[Epithemius]

I was even LOOKING at it right after the second post, and thought, "Hey, this looks like it could be fun. I'll sign up a bit later though."
 

[Armeleon]

Wow. Leave for a few days and threads explode. I just spent an hour reading this.  And it Looks like I'm number eleven! great! Only about a month to wait.  I love the suggestions for world-gen that have been suggested already. I will get behind whatever you guys dream up.

I figured someone should also get a list of materials needed for Overseers--what they need to create, etc.  Here's what I've seen so far:

• Fort Description (Optional)
• In-Character Journal (Optional)
• Bestiary (Description of the Beasts an overseer has run into and/or killed)
• List of Artifacts/Collectible Item (Implied)

A few additional items that I usually put my Dwarf Info files are Dwarf Descriptions & Lineage, Battle Transcripts, Timeline (usually year-to-year calendar detailing attacks, parties, strange moods, migrants, etc.), and a basic structure sketch.

I also thought it might be cool if we could attach fortress maps and link them up to a world map.  I usually do this with my forts as well, and it only takes about an hour to gen up a good map for the fortress (less if you could somehow export a height .bmp instead of hand-drawing it), and a few hours to create a decent world map.  This is what I had in mind (the file depot's down otherwise I'd put a map of the actual world we're using):

Spoiler: local map (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: World Map Traderoute Map (Rough) (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: World Map Political (Incomplete) (click to show/hide)

They would be finished, not these partial images I have, and we'd probably have a physical one as well.  Think we could pull it off?

[Cellmonk]

Wow. Leave for a few days and threads explode. I just spent an hour reading this.  And it Looks like I'm number eleven! great! Only about a month to wait.  I love the suggestions for world-gen that have been suggested already. I will get behind whatever you guys dream up.

I figured someone should also get a list of materials needed for Overseers--what they need to create, etc.  Here's what I've seen so far:

• Fort Description (Optional)
• In-Character Journal (Optional)
• Bestiary (Description of the Beasts an overseer has run into and/or killed)
• List of Artifacts/Collectible Item (Implied)

A few additional items that I usually put my Dwarf Info files are Dwarf Descriptions & Lineage, Battle Transcripts, Timeline (usually year-to-year calendar detailing attacks, parties, strange moods, migrants, etc.), and a basic structure sketch.

I also thought it might be cool if we could attach fortress maps and link them up to a world map.  I usually do this with my forts as well, and it only takes about an hour to gen up a good map for the fortress (less if you could somehow export a height .bmp instead of hand-drawing it), and a few hours to create a decent world map.  This is what I had in mind (the file depot's down otherwise I'd put a map of the actual world we're using):

Spoiler: local map (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: World Map Traderoute Map (Rough) (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: World Map Political (Incomplete) (click to show/hide)

They would be finished, not these partial images I have, and we'd probably have a physical one as well.  Think we could pull it off?

Oh hell yeah!
great idea, applying political maps etc. I had seen the program that did that before, but i didn't connect the dots.

[Armeleon]

I had seen the program that did that before, but i didn't connect the dots.

There's a program that does this? Where is it? That would make things a lot simpler

[Cellmonk]

I had seen the program that did that before, but i didn't connect the dots.

There's a program that does this? Where is it? That would make things a lot simpler

I think this is the post for it: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=72702.0

[Armeleon]

I had seen the program that did that before, but i didn't connect the dots.

There's a program that does this? Where is it? That would make things a lot simpler

I think this is the post for it: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=72702.0

Oh. I used that one. I thought you meant one that actually created decent-looking maps from the data. But you're right. It's a great tool. It helps you realize which sites are still active, which are trade hubs, and stuff like that. It's Just a little incomplete until Toady finishes the XML dump.

[Eric Blank]

A (global) bestiary of all the night creatures, titans, and other beasts could be fun. I suppose we could also include the mundane wildlife, and list the biomes that we've encountered them in.

Actually, that would be very good science. I've heard next to nothing about how DF distributes wildlife, and have been infuriated by the way the creatures from my mods either never seem to show up, or are inexplicably everywhere when I really wanted them to be rare. (Lesser dragons... Can't seem to keep them under control...)


Also, I wouldn't want overseers to be bogged down with having to write about their fortress during their turn, but if they feel like writing updates (very cool) or providing some info about the non-trap-corridor sections and artifacts then it would be wonderful.