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[Sean Mirrsen]

I had to fight 11 Mechtoids on one of my base defense missions.

2 in the very first wave.
5 more in 1-by-1 reinforcement increments.
and 4 in the final wave in one go.

I was... aggravated. Thank god they give you so many nameless rookies to use as cannon fodder. They basically buy you free turns as you can make them stand in the open to tank shots and give your guys more time.

Are you sure they are nameless rookies? Because most of the time I noticed that mine were all from my own rookie roster.

[umiman]

Nah, you see the ones with the weird uniforms? They're "XCOM base security personnel". You get an achievement if you use them to kill lots of aliens. I think it's "All Hands On Deck".

I think you start with 4 of them, along with a few of your guys. Then you get two more. Then you get another two more. Feel free to sacrifice them, they're not your men.

[Chiefwaffles]

Welp. Not sure if it's normal, but in my base defense mission, I got a wave consisting of seven five cyberdiscs, along with some repair drones. I've yet to actually defeat them yet. so many deaths

[inEQUALITY]

Been reading through this thread a bit since Enemy Within came out. If I can find Enemy Within for $20 eventually, I'll grab it, but even with all the awesome things people have been talking about, I just don't think it justifies a $40 purchase. I really hate that it isn't an expansion/DLC. I bought Enemy Unknown literally less than a month before they said it would be standalone. It feels like a total waste. I'm thinking about selling the base game and using that to go towards Enemy Within, but that likely won't help much.

[umiman]

Enemy Within for $15 here: http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/ca/en/pc/games/strategy/xcom-enemy-within-na/

Enjoy~

[inEQUALITY]

Enemy Within for $15 here: http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/ca/en/pc/games/strategy/xcom-enemy-within-na/

Enjoy~

I'd love to grab that version, but I can't handle it with my current laptop; I can only play the 360 version at the moment. 

[EnigmaticHat]

I know that Vahlen and Shen's "maybe we should have improved our gear/research" lines after a TPK are supposed to imply that they're blaming themselves.  But I always interpret it as them using the squad's death to politick and improve their department's position.  Like "hey, wow it sure is tragic those guys died, maybe if we had some better gear... you know, if we had a bigger budget... just sign this paper right here to transfer the funds..."

[Mageziya]

All those lines have ever done is make me angry.

"Oh I'm sorry! It was only another five days until laser finished!"

Or

"We had no funds and the gray market was basically empty, what could we have done?"

[PanH]

So, I'm getting better, managed the slingshot operation (the 3) and the village in Newfoundland (it was nice not have to worry about cover for once). I was quite decent for a moment, but now I'm meeting mutons and mechtoids (they hurt and they have a lot of hp  ). I'm not sure what to go for next. I have carapace armor and laser, and am building one of the meld building. Should I continue towards plasma weapons ?

I've met exalts. It was nice meeting guys with bullet weapon for once, even though they had lots of hps, lots of guys, and lots of rockets.

[Mr Space Cat]

I've met exalts. It was nice meeting guys with bullet weapon for once, even though they had lots of hps, lots of guys, and lots of rockets.

Exalt eventually get gear upgrades, so don't think they're totally weak. They'll get their own versions of laser weapons and carapace armor. You can then use these laser weapons you loot from the missions on your own soldiers, so long as you have it researched. Free firepower, ho!

I assume if you let them live long enough they'll eventually get plasma and titan armor. I haven't experienced that myself yet.

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Spoiler: somewhat spoilery question (click to show/hide)

Does anyone know if the base defense mission still occurs if you assault Exalt's base before then? I had the opportunity to assault their base, but waited. A few days later, XCOM base defense, cue cutscene, oh look, EXALT infiltrated my base and let the aliens in too. It makes sense that if you stomp the exalt insurrection before they can get in your bae, then the base defense isn't needed.

[My Name is Immaterial]

Do EXALT use pistols?

[Sean Mirrsen]

I've met exalts. It was nice meeting guys with bullet weapon for once, even though they had lots of hps, lots of guys, and lots of rockets.

Exalt eventually get gear upgrades, so don't think they're totally weak. They'll get their own versions of laser weapons and carapace armor. You can then use these laser weapons you loot from the missions on your own soldiers, so long as you have it researched. Free firepower, ho!

I assume if you let them live long enough they'll eventually get plasma and titan armor. I haven't experienced that myself yet.

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Spoiler: somewhat spoilery question (click to show/hide)

Does anyone know if the base defense mission still occurs if you assault Exalt's base before then? I had the opportunity to assault their base, but waited. A few days later, XCOM base defense, cue cutscene, oh look, EXALT infiltrated my base and let the aliens in too. It makes sense that if you stomp the exalt insurrection before they can get in your bae, then the base defense isn't needed.

Spoiler: Explanation of base mission (click to show/hide)

EXALT don't infiltrate your base. The base assault occurs tangentially to their efforts, and will still probably happen if you take out their HQ.

What happens is that aliens mass-mind-control your base personnel, using a person with exceptional psionic ability that EXALT later steal and try to move, leading to the dam mission. If you take out the HQ, I assume that the dam mission will never happen, but the base assault mission will.

Also, the EXALT troopers don't seem to ever move past lasers and whatever armor they have. They lack the industrial base to mass-produce either, and they don't exactly fight tons of aliens to get all the alien alloys and weapon materials for plasma and stuff. They are just very determined and resourceful, and Meld seems to be everywhere so they just went with genemods and stolen/copied laser weaponry.

[WillowLuman]

I can confirm EXALT never gets plasmas.

[My Name is Immaterial]

I doubted you all when you said that SHIVs were amazing.
I was so very, very wrong.

[Krath]

So I'm on my first playthrough (Ironman Normal, I started one or two other games, but I didn't get past month two before I got stomped), but this one is going alot better despite some early rookie deaths. I've gotten a MEC, laser rifles, and one of my soldiers has even made it up to Captain. Right now, I'm in the middle of Gangplank, and it's going well so far. Other than the fact a Cyberdisk (the first one I've ever seen) popped out of nowhere and gunned down one of my Majors in a single turn.

My only regret is that I don't get many chances to safely run up to something and rocket punch it.