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[Neonivek]

Given up on this game for now, after it bugged out TWICE whilst I was doing well.

And by bugged out, I mean it zoomed in on the room with the holo-globe, with no buttons appearing and an inability to save and quit.

How many saves do you have?

The game actually has a crippling glitch that only occurs if you rack up a certain number of saves.

[Damiac]

It's funny how this game is very high quality in some ways, but horribly low quality in others.  As usual with this generation of games, it's clear that they didn't bother with much testing.

[Neonivek]

It's funny how this game is very high quality in some ways, but horribly low quality in others.  As usual with this generation of games, it's clear that they didn't bother with much testing.

It is more then that it is clear that the game was rushed.

It is saying something where even if you didn't get ANY glitch or weirdness that you can still tell it was rushed.

For example:

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When you finally get a key they show you a cutscene with the alien bases on earth showing multiple of them. There is only one alien base mission in the game.

In a cutscene two human clones are the focus... either being weirdness or a parody of the original game

[MetalSlimeHunt]

So I was thinking.

We all know how the Thin Men are almost definitely Snakemen after having been heavily genetically altered. I was thinking about that, and how the Thin Man interrogation mentions how surprisingly easy it was to get information from an infiltration unit.

I think the Thin Men hate the Ethereals for twisting them so utterly. The Mutons and Sectoids are altered, but not to that extreme. They can't do anything about it normally because the Ethereals have some control over all of their forces, but if captured and put in Vahlen's.....psionic....interrogation....thing....

[The Scout]

I dunno, the thin man looked pretty pissed at being in the interrogationmabob.

Being locked into a glass container and being shocked with energy/magic would make me angry too.

[GlyphGryph]

I think the Thin Men hate the Ethereals for twisting them so utterly. The Mutons and Sectoids are altered, but not to that extreme. They can't do anything about it normally because the Ethereals have some control over all of their forces, but if captured and put in Vahlen's.....psionic....interrogation....thing....

I don't know, the mutons -> heavy floaters seem even more extreme than the thin men. And the Ethereals mention the thin men as their most loyal units. I just expect the thin men have low willpower and a natural tendency to follow orders - the same traits that make them so useful to the ethereals are the traits that make interrogation rather easy.

[HFS]

So, here's how my first single player game ended, in one simple question:

Ever seen what happens when you pit 4 rookies against a Sectopod?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I dunno, the thin man looked pretty pissed at being in the interrogationmabob.

Being locked into a glass container and being shocked with energy/magic would make me angry too.

I prefer interrogationmabob.

I didn't say they liked Humans, plus the interrogationmabob kills everything that gets put into it. I get the impression it's a final "I'll die but I'll screw you doing it" bid to give Humanity some information that we could use to fuck over the Ethereals.

I don't know, the mutons -> heavy floaters seem even more extreme than the thin men.

The mutons are some of the least modified, from where I'm standing. They even still have some of their culture, what with the tattoos and warrior race attitude.

The floaters are mentioned in interrogation as being almost mindless balls of rage. They don't have complex enough thought to hate the Ethereals, or at least not more than they hate everything else. The Thin Men retain their cognitive skills and can comprehend what was done to them. 

And the Ethereals mention the thin men as their most loyal units.

The Thin Men were designed for deception, so perhaps the Ethereals got more than they bargained for.

I just expect the thin men have low willpower and a natural tendency to follow orders - the same traits that make them so useful to the ethereals are the traits that make interrogation rather easy.

While game mechanics are not exactly evidence, in my experience Thin Men have high Will, since its so hard to make them panic.

[Neonivek]

Actually it is part of the theme of all the races that they have an inherant flaw.

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The Thinmen were able to be modified easily but had weak wills.

The Sectoids have a grand hive mind but they are rather unintelligent and slavely.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I thought the Sectoid's flaw was that they were pointlessly cruel and petty?

[Neonivek]

I thought the Sectoid's flaw was that they were pointlessly cruel and petty?

Sorry the Crysalids >_<

Also the Sectoid's flaw was that while their minds were great they had a weak and pathetic body.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I never heard anything about the Chryssalids having a hive mind, just that they were basically animals. Hence why they only appeared on terror missions and couldn't be interrogated. Though the latter is also for....other....reasons.....

That reminds me that the thing I liked least about this one was the lack of terror units. What was wrong with Reapers and Silacoids?

[Neonivek]

Reapers and Silacoids are not from this Xcom.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

That wasn't what I meant. It was a rhetorical question about them not being included.

[majikero]

Silacoids are basically useless. Reapers are replaced by Muton berserkers.