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Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown (New by Firaxis)
« Reply #5130 on: December 26, 2012, 03:20:53 am »

Since when are Floaters modified Mutons?
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« Reply #5131 on: December 26, 2012, 03:23:40 am »

Since always? It's in their file, feel free to go look.

Correction: It's in the muton file, not the floater file.

From Dr. Vahlen:

"Although I can only guess as to the aliens' intentions, it certainly appears that the Floaters may have at one time been Mutons themselves"
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Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown (New by Firaxis)
« Reply #5132 on: December 26, 2012, 03:28:45 am »

I'm not really sure how I managed to miss that one.
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Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown (New by Firaxis)
« Reply #5133 on: December 26, 2012, 09:22:35 am »

Reapers could've been scary and badass in this. But they aren't in this at all. Alas.
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Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown (New by Firaxis)
« Reply #5134 on: December 26, 2012, 12:51:08 pm »

Were Floaters from dead Mutons?

No offense game but Mutons seem better then floaters.
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« Reply #5135 on: December 26, 2012, 12:54:26 pm »

Were Floaters from dead Mutons?

Sometimes I have no idea what you are talking about. o_O

Did someone say they were from dead Mutons? Are YOU hypothesizing they are from dead Mutons and want some confirmation?

And I'd argue Heavy Floaters are tougher opponents than basic Mutons.
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« Reply #5136 on: December 26, 2012, 01:07:23 pm »

So... Floaters are chopped updownsized versions of Mutons?  And HeavyElite Floaters are downsized versions of Elite Mutons?
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« Reply #5137 on: December 26, 2012, 01:28:02 pm »

Most likely, they were two separate branches of development from the same source, the original Muton. Even the regular Mutons have had a bit of gene tweaking, just like all the other critters.

Original Muton (not in use) -,--- Floater ------- Heavy Floater
                              '---- Combat Muton --,---- Muton Elite
                                                    '--- Muton Berserker
« Last Edit: December 26, 2012, 01:30:50 pm by GlyphGryph »
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Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown (New by Firaxis)
« Reply #5138 on: December 26, 2012, 01:28:53 pm »

Eh, probably different tribes or maybe just mutons who showed different skills or potential. Scrawny mutons probably got turned into floaters. Less mass to lift.
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« Reply #5139 on: December 26, 2012, 01:51:19 pm »

Most likely, they were two separate branches of development from the same source, the original Muton. Even the regular Mutons have had a bit of gene tweaking, just like all the other critters.

Original Muton (not in use) -,--- Floater ------- Heavy Floater
                              '---- Combat Muton --,---- Muton Elite
                                                    '--- Muton Berserker


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Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown (New by Firaxis)
« Reply #5140 on: December 26, 2012, 08:56:13 pm »

I've heard speculation that Muton Berserkers might well be the original Mutons, but the Ethereals had to make them chill out so they'd use advanced weaponry.
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« Reply #5141 on: December 27, 2012, 09:51:40 am »

I've heard speculation that Muton Berserkers might well be the original Mutons, but the Ethereals had to make them chill out so they'd use advanced weaponry.
So... Muton BarbariansBerserkers become the smarts as they can be, becoming weaker and less durable?
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Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown (New by Firaxis)
« Reply #5142 on: December 27, 2012, 10:45:28 am »

I though that the berserkers are drugged up so that can ignore more damage than normal mutons.
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Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown (New by Firaxis)
« Reply #5143 on: December 27, 2012, 11:14:57 am »

I've heard speculation that Muton Berserkers might well be the original Mutons, but the Ethereals had to make them chill out so they'd use advanced weaponry.
So... Muton BarbariansBerserkers become the smarts as they can be, becoming weaker and less durable?
Not smart, the Mutons are idiots. Even the normal ones charge you suicidally, including during panic moves. The Berserkers want to beat your skull in, and probably don't use weapons because it isn't satisfying to them. Hence I'd speculate that they're the real Mutons.
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Re: XCOM: Enemy Unknown (New by Firaxis)
« Reply #5144 on: December 27, 2012, 11:26:15 am »

I've heard speculation that Muton Berserkers might well be the original Mutons, but the Ethereals had to make them chill out so they'd use advanced weaponry.
So... Muton BarbariansBerserkers become the smarts as they can be, becoming weaker and less durable?
Not smart, the Mutons are idiots. Even the normal ones charge you suicidally, including during panic moves. The Berserkers want to beat your skull in, and probably don't use weapons because it isn't satisfying to them. Hence I'd speculate that they're the real Mutons.
Well, you do need more smarts then "Rawr! Me fists make stop!" to point and aim a plasma rifle... also, taking cover...
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