@Andrew: In this crop? IronyOwl. I think I said it earlier but basically I can't read players like IronyOwl. But also nobody tries to kill players like IronyOwl, either.
@NUKE: Saying a player needs to be banned from games is crossing the line. Cut that shit out. Now.
Goddamnit NUKE, you sure know how to ruin games. Continue playing but please get better and stop bringing up game theory in game. Do it out of game. When you do it in game it makes you hard to read, which I'm suspecting you're doing on purpose.
I WANT to be voting the player(s) I consider scummy, but I can't do that with any real credibility of threat. First off, NUKE has no lynch target. Spoilers, a lynch target is someone you're willing to lynch, and the only proof I or anyone else should accept of NUKE being sure enough to lynch is that NUKE is willing to vote him/her. So if I changed my vote, I would be a hypocrite based on my earlier promise. Second, and more importantly we HAVE to lynch NUKE so we can play mafia rather than mafia game theory debate. Now the game theory debate is fun and all, but it's not mafia. We won't pressure anyone, we won't learn what people are thinking, and most importantly we won't catch any scum by bouncing math and opinions off NUKE. Basically as long as NUKE is alive we're not going to be able to have a productive day at all. I strongly suggest everyone stop responding to NUKE's game theory related statements (which are, by the way, all incorrect. Every single one of them) and focus solely on his in-game statements. Enough of that and maybe NUKE will be free to question some people and reveal himself. That would be splendid, if I actively start thinking NUKE is town AND NUKE isn't forcing all the game's attention onto useless shit I'd drop my vote in a heartbeat. It's just that right now he's an impossible to read leaning scum who's fucking with everyone else's scumhunting.
Lynching a useless townie who's acting scummy is better than no lynching. Lynching a townie who's intentionally and actively making scumhunting difficult to impossible? MUCH better than a no lynch and MILES ahead of any other lynch short of one on a mafia member or cult leader. Even an SK or jester or any other third party lynch manages to be worse, that's how bad a disruptive townie is.
Of course when you say terribly scummy things like "lynch Webadict tomorrow he's scum if he lives", before the first night passes, you start to look very scummy. If you were a townie the scum would probably not kill Webadict and then laugh as you start WIFOMing yourself about if he's scum or not. Or, more realistically, you're just trying to get support for a Webadict lynch without actually getting your hands dirty. That's called "Lightning Rodding", and it's a tactic only scum should be using.
The fact Webadict is buddying you makes the both of you very, very scummy. I don't think I need to even mention why.
More later, I just need to get this out right now.