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Total Members Voted: 28

Voting closed: January 19, 2012, 06:50:05 pm

[Gizogin]

Well, it seems I missed a fairly large discussion.  I'm still catching up, but I can offer my meager modding experience to whatever we decide to add to the next fort.  A civ of dark versions of ourselves?  I could help with that.  Especially since I'm likely partly responsible, what with all my reality-tampering.

[Ieb]

Queen Led would make a fitting deity for the dead. Making a civ out of the overseers from the first three forts that attacks the next fort? Awesome.

Perhaps we could say that, in order to make ourselves perfectly good, we completely banished the evil from ourselves. That evil became our shadow selves, formed a civ, and started wreaking havoc on life, the universe, and everything. Unfortunately, that would require us to actually plan a fort's design so that it looks like a citadel of righteousness instead of a massive, chaotic clusterfuck.

Dwarven righteousness is a massive, chaotic clusterfuck. Also, I think it's unfitting(in this fortress saga at least) to limit the players to a certain method of gameplay and fort design just for the sake of plot. These things are better when they evolve on their own and through the individual approach of each overseer.

As a possible suggestion to the next fort and potential new foes, why not have the enemy compose of all the species who have had members killed in the fort, through accident or hostile intention? Dwarves, human, elves and goblins. I think kobolds are extinct though. Can't remember. Rare caste members which are just resurrected megabeasts and/or titans killed in previous forts as well perhaps?

Then again, such a feature would just be nitpicking so I'm not going to lie and say it's something to add because it'd be a great idea. Since I'm a perfectionist at random intervals though, if it was up to me, I'd make a hostile civ that composed of all previously mentioned species just because it fit some reason along the lines of "Finally unleashed, Queen Led's undead horde marches forth" or something ridiculous like that. It might be unneeded complexity though.

[Teneb]

Kobolds actually appeared in Failcannon (and then helped kill it), but I guess Hellcannon is too cold for them.

[CatalystParadox]

I'm still VERY enthused for the idea of an embark here:

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=64258.msg2659472#msg2659472

Star-shaped island in a lake in a mountain range.  Home of the Gods of Aluonra?

[Gizogin]

I'm in favor.  Definitely a cool-looking place to build a fort.

[Eric Blank]

That lake and the one to the north-west of it still exist, although the island in that one is no longer star-shaped and is now more with the secluded area to the south. It actually looks a bitlike Australia

Spoiler: massive ASCII map (click to show/hide)

The north-western mountain range is sufficiently evil, as is the lake to the north of that round one. It's also nearly split in two...

[Teneb]

The two problems with making a fort in that secluded island are these: Not an evil region and no sieges. This means there'll be nearly no threats at all. That is undesirable when trying to build another fort-shaped abomination.

[Mr Frog]

The two problems with making a fort in that secluded island are these: Not an evil region and no sieges. This means there'll be nearly no threats at all. That is undesirable when trying to build another fort-shaped abomination.

I haven't experimented much with cavern civs, but would those be an option?

Also, I suppose you could mod in some sort of ubiquitous vermin whose bite transmits a Husk syndrome.

[Dark_T_Zeratul]

Since people were talking about mods earlier... I tend to be a proponent of the fewer, the better in succession forts, so that you don't get weird things happening with inconsistencies in who does or doesn't have certain mods.

[Mr Frog]

Since people were talking about mods earlier... I tend to be a proponent of the fewer, the better in succession forts, so that you don't get weird things happening with inconsistencies in who does or doesn't have certain mods.

Um? Since 31.01, each save folder has had its own raws/ folder packed inside it, so unless I've misunderstood something horribly that shouldn't be a problem.

[Silverlock]

Kobolds actually appeared in Failcannon (and then helped kill it), but I guess Hellcannon is too cold for them.

Quick fade to goblin in the past saying, "They'll never be rid of us until Hell(cannon) freezes over!"

[Mego]

That lake and the one to the north-west of it still exist, although the island in that one is no longer star-shaped and is now more with the secluded area to the south. It actually looks a bitlike Australia

Australia

That makes it even more fitting for the Land of the Gods. We might as well acknowledge that TAD is a deity.

Also if we embark there, we need kangaroos modded in.

[ThatAussieGuy]

It actually looks a bit like Australia

All According To Plan...

[Ieb]

I think kangaroos are actually modded in already, at least my fort in 0.34.11 has giant kangaroos around at times. What we need is all the else that Australia has to offer, in all of their glorious venomous glory!

[Reudh]

That would not be too hard at all. I could come up with a list of creatures that could be easily just copied over from existing raws, if you like.