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[Kanil]

Why the pool aversion? Head to the forge and suck all of 'em dry and have fun from there.

[Akura]

The 50/50/90 rule. Simply put, there's more or less a 50/50 chance of either getting something good, or getting something bad, which means there's a 90% chance of getting something that will kill you.

And the problem with the forge is that it has extremely dangerous mobs, and has a fairly high base background corruption rate.

[Seriyu]

On the note of skill usefulness how is athletics? I was getting it because I figured more stats are always good, but I wasn't sure how good it actually was.

And to confirm, corpses are mostly useful for getting resists, and not stats? or is it both?

[Toaster]

I checked- it was a beastfighter.

On the note of skill usefulness how is athletics? I was getting it because I figured more stats are always good, but I wasn't sure how good it actually was.

And to confirm, corpses are mostly useful for getting resists, and not stats? or is it both?

It also increases speed at high levels, which is always useful.

Both.  Remember- you are what you eat.


I almost always hit the small cave with the intent of finding the stairs (for later)- it's quite a useful side trip.

[Taniec]

I like to hit the small cave when my starting character has both healing and herbalism before doing any of the beginner quests (such as wizards) with the objective of finding the staircase first and waterproof blanket second. When I hit level 5 that is my cue to get the hell out. At four your still okay but you got to be careful and at 6 you are generally screwed when it comes to 99% of characters.

Athletics is very good when it comes to melee oriented classes (helps speed for sure, and maybe DV. I am not entirely sure), but it definitely never hurts to have for others because if you can't win a fight the best option is to run and live to fight another day. Speed most definitely helps with that.

You probably know this, but if an enemy seems especially CHAOTIC and evil it probably wouldn't be a good idea to eat it.

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RAAAGGGGEEEE at the Skeleton King. Freaking kills so many of my promising characters.

[Seriyu]

Ah, so jumping into the cave with my weaponsmiths probably isn't a great idea, as they don't have healing. That explains a lot.

[Gamerlord]

How useful are Necromancers, from 1 to 10?

[Seriyu]

I've heard they're one of the worst classes, at least in the early game, unfortunatly. Of course I've been playing for approximately what, 3 days, so take that with a grain of salt.

HOWEVER, they have one major game breakingly huge thing going for them

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If you get them to the point where they get their class skill of reviving themselves on death, and a piece of equipment that prevents toughness from being lowered, they will litterally never die. Because the skill says they will revive if they have above 10 toughness, but every time they die, they lose half of their toughness. UNLESS they have the toughness equip.

[Akura]

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RAAAGGGGEEEE at the Skeleton King. Freaking kills so many of my promising characters.

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You are building a bridge to him, aren't you? Because swimming is suicide.

HOWEVER, they have one major game breakingly huge thing going for them

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If you get them to the point where they get their class skill of reviving themselves on death, and a piece of equipment that prevents toughness from being lowered, they will litterally never die. Because the skill says they will revive if they have above 10 toughness, but every time they die, they lose half of their toughness. UNLESS they have the toughness equip.

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I've never heard of any equipment that protects Toughness. There are also a few other things about slave-reliant necromancers to watch out for. One, Tower of Eternal Flames will probably kill them all. Two, D:48, dropping the Fire Orb into it's slot will either kill them all, or piss them off at you. Third, even if it doesn't do either of those, they can't cross D:49 either.

[Seriyu]

Aren't there randomly generated artifacts that could fufill that criteria though?

[Akura]

ADOM has no randomly generated artifacts.

[Seriyu]

Oh huh, well there we are. Maybe the dev patched it out or somethin.

[Toaster]

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You don't need one that protects toughness- just enough +TO gear to get +10 total.  The earth orb does this nicely.

[Kanil]

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RAAAGGGGEEEE at the Skeleton King. Freaking kills so many of my promising characters.

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You are building a bridge to him, aren't you? Because swimming is suicide.

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Being confused as all hell while standing on a narrow bridge is also usually very bad.

[C27]

I've been playing it on 7 and it runs like a charm.

It has a lot of interesting contrasts with DF adventure mode - both have their strengths, but ADOM has a constructed story behind it, so I have to admit it's more fun in the long term. Anyone who wants to make a new roguelike would do well to take the good points from it and DF Adventure together.

I prefer playing wizards, usually human, gnome, or hurthling. Elementalists just feel too easy. Priests/druids are allright too. In any case, I love having spells!