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[Think0028]

Unvote, vote Dariush. As has been pointed out already, you accuse Vector of lobbing insults at you and... promptly insult her right back. Are you using some scale to measure 'idiocy' differently than mine? Because from my point of view, I don't see how Vector's arguments are 'idiotic.' At all. For being so 'obvious', you're doing a terrible job of showing it. Because there's nothing to show. Your scumhunting is weak, you're flailing around trying to take people down with you, you aren't willing to explain yourself. You're scum.

Toaster: Regarding Otto, I see a lot of accusations of lurking, one accusation of bullshit on his roleclaim, and one 'let's hang you you're scum.' However, I'm not finding much in the way of scumtells you're pointing out beyond the lurking and the claim. What's your case on Otto looking like?

[webadict]

Vote Count
----------------------------
Darvi - NativeForeigner, Ottofar, Solifuge, IronyOwl,
Toaster -
Bdthemag - Dariush,
Think0028 -
Solifuge -
Vector -
Pandarsenic -
Ottofar - Bdthemag,
Dariush - Vector, Pandarsenic, Darvi, Toaster, Think0028,
IronyOwl -
NativeForeigner -

Not Voting -

6 To Hammer. Day Ends Wednesday 9 PM Central.

[Solifuge]

"Doesn't matter, must find scum" isn't a valid excuse for ignoring questions. In addition to getting scum lynched, you also have something of a duty to not force town to waste lynched on you because you're being stubborn and opaque.

Somebody asked me a question? Where?

Again with pretending to be ignorant, Darvi. You saw it and pointedly ignored it, so why the act? You continue to paint yourself as meek and a bit confused, and have tried two times to assure us that you're not afraid to die. Why is this?

Nevermind that, you won't answer. I'll tell you why.

You're trying to assure other players that you're not a threat. Rolling over and dying is simply not how Town plays; You hunt, you argue, and you keep on fighting. You don't just passively accept death; only if it clears something big up, or implicates scum, is death worth it. Your repeated assertions of how much your death isn't a big deal, and your habit of broadcasting your confusion, only serve to try and prove how little of a threat you are. You're trying too hard to appear this way, rather than just being that way, which means it's part of an act.

Spoiler: Here's my case. I invite you to explain it away (click to show/hide)

Because I don't give a fuck about what people think about me.

Interesting statement.  What if you had, for example, two votes more than anyone else?  What would you do then?

So what. Keep going. It doesn't matter if I get lynched as long as we find the scum.

Also, bandwagoning much? Are you so afraid to die?

Nope. Are you?

I am, after all, not an evil mastermind.

[Solifuge]

Doublepost for clarity, ho!

I assume as well that Solifuge will soon be more active in the game.

Indeed. If it becomes relevant, among other things I'm acting as "best man" for a wedding this weekend, so I've got my hands busy with some minor time-juggling. There should be a 20-60% increase in post-frequency stating next week.

Solifuge:  Do you have any other picks (or failing that, opinions) on anyone besides Darvi?

I feel that the case on Dariush is pretty well-established; I agree that his OMGUS stinks, but I have little to add beyond that and what's already been said. However, I suspect he's just getting emotionally caught-up in this scrap, and as a result is foaming at the mouth a bit. He reads as "overreactive angry town" to me.

Ottofar is simply outrageous. He's like a lava lamp; expensive to keep, entirely useless for shedding light on anything, and entertaining to watch fidgit and squirm.

NativeForiegner, I know you're busy right now, but your habit of slinking around the proximity and taking potshots at others is less than confidence-inspiring. Here's hoping you can join the fun, and get you hands dirty on Day 2.

As for intuition, with the group's size and way I read us all playing, I get the notion that there is 1 experienced scum covering themselves quite well, 1-2 inexperienced scum slipping up a bit (whom the experienced one has likely kept out of their crosshairs), and potentially 1 third party.

[Pandarsenic]

Pandar: Is there a reason you took that completely out of context? Are you trying to make Darvi look scummier or did you only skim his post?

Mu. No. No.
(Unanswerable - I didn't take it completely out of context. If he's going to use me as an example, he's insinuating that I'm scum. I'm not even terribly hard to read as scum, or so I'm told.) (No, nothing I do is necessary to make Darvi look scummier. By a glance at the vote count I can see he's doing a fine job of that himself.) (No, I did not only skim his post. I wouldn't have spotted that word if I had, most likely.)

IF you were to ask a real question like why that bothered me, I would answer that I have no patience for him pussyfooting around me and if he's going to call me scum he will and if isn't then he won't.

Pandar: Why so paranoid and defensive?

... Inviting Darvi to accuse me of being scum if he thinks I'm scum is paranoid and defensive?

lolwut

[Solifuge]

Personal note of interest: I am familiar with the word Mu, but is it actually used in conversational Japanese to mean "unanswerable"? If so, that is so flipping cool.

[webadict]

Drool pools in Bdthemag's mouth, slowly dripping onto the floor. Someone had recently placed a sign stating AFK around his neck.

Suddenly, Bdthemag collapses.

"Sorry, guys. Blame him. You'll find out why." Webadict's voice sure is bossy...

You all drag him to the machine thingy and throw him on. It starts up and you find Bdthemag has transformed into... er... himself.

"Way to make impressive technology, Wuba," yells NativeForeigner.

"Shut up. He wanted to be himself, so I fixed his DNA. All I added were a few brain-destroying nanobots."

"Wait, but that has nothing to do wi-"

"Anyhow, get back to playing. I'll reset the scoreboard... I mean vote board."

Bdthemag has died!

Bdthemag was Bdthemag (mafia).

Votes Reset!

Vote Count
----------------------------
Darvi -
Toaster -
Think0028 -
Solifuge -
Vector -
Pandarsenic -
Ottofar -
Dariush -
IronyOwl -
NativeForeigner -

Not Voting - NativeForeigner, Ottofar, Solifuge, IronyOwl, Dariush, Vector, Pandarsenic, Darvi, Toaster, Think0028,

6 To Hammer. Day Ends Wednesday 9 PM Central.

Bdthemag - Bdthemag
You are Bdthemag, constant lurk

(Auto) Anti-Lurk System: Because of your constant lurking, if you do not post in thread for 24 hours (except on weekends), you die.
(Mafiakill, Night) Roll To Dodge [target]: If your target is targetting another player, you roll a die with the following outcomes. This action replaces the mafiakill.
1: Your action fails. Also, lose all your actions and votes. Oh, except Anti-Lurk System.
2: Your action fails.
3: You kill the target.
4: You kill the target and learn the target's target(s).
5: You kill the target and learn the target's target(s) and the target's action.
6: You kill the target and one of the target's targets.

[Vector]

Dariush.

One down.

[Think0028]

Dariush, again.

[Solifuge]

Darvi, my reasoning 7 posts up. Again, I suspect Dariush is Overreactive Town, but he's been too uncooperative to prove otherwise.

[IronyOwl]

(Auto) Anti-Lurk System: Because of your constant lurking, if you do not post in thread for 24 hours (except on weekends), you die.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I love you, web.

... Inviting Darvi to accuse me of being scum if he thinks I'm scum is paranoid and defensive?

No.

If he's going to use me as an example, he's insinuating that I'm scum.

This is.

lolwut

Exactly.


Still looking for answers from Darvi.

[Toaster]

Irony:

I don't like that last part.  If Dariush is obvscum, how does someone else's vote affect that?   How scummy does Darvi have to be to be better than a "guaranteed vote on obvscum?"

It was intended from his perspective.

I see.  Nothing further on that note, then.


Think:

Toaster: Regarding Otto, I see a lot of accusations of lurking, one accusation of bullshit on his roleclaim, and one 'let's hang you you're scum.' However, I'm not finding much in the way of scumtells you're pointing out beyond the lurking and the claim. What's your case on Otto looking like?

Well, he's contributed absolutely zero to the game.  His first of two real posts was directed at a player that had been forum muted.  The second was hypocrisy (calling Darvi active lurking when he's doing it himself.)  Then the WIFOM starts.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88478.msg2467233#msg2467233
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88478.msg2467278#msg2467278
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88478.msg2476762#msg2476762

Various posts wondering about the votes on him, with a tone of "They should be voting me."

What I called BS is an appeal for people to not vote him- a tone change from before, and what I call a change in plan of his RiA.

In conclusion, I have no idea what the hell he is doing.  I have extreme doubts that he is town, but I don't know what he's up to.  He's an oddball, but I'd rather deal with him later.


Dariush is scum for reasons stated earlier.

[Ottofar]

Toaster, I was calling Darvi out of hypocrisy so yeah.

[Ottofar]

Because I was gonna do a post like BB's out of Darvi, but he had no content, except the part he was trying to policylynch me, for activelurking.

[Ottofar]

Toaster, for being scum.