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What should the group do now?

Raid a small village
- 3 (27.3%)
Act like highwaymen
- 1 (9.1%)
Attack a weak caravan
- 5 (45.5%)
Loiter at our tower
- 1 (9.1%)
Other (specify in post
- 1 (9.1%)

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Author Topic: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign  (Read 49152 times)

Lord Braindead

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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #375 on: June 07, 2011, 06:46:22 pm »

@choobakka: Didn't notice that. I not read further into the class after noticing that I need to be an arcane spellcaster, thus making the class already worthless. Besides, the class is all about tricking outsiders to do your bidding and thats the wrong way around. I want to trick mortals.

@atomic: Of course you can get some souls but what do you want to do with fusion? It sounds a lot like the power is ripped straight from DBZ.
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Atomicdremora

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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #376 on: June 07, 2011, 06:47:40 pm »

so can't he already be one? just not passed the bar exam?
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choobakka

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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #377 on: June 07, 2011, 06:50:09 pm »

Warlocks aren't arcane? Oh, yeah, they get their powers from demons or devils, right?
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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #378 on: June 07, 2011, 06:51:41 pm »

well surely as a devil, you can already do the whole soul bargain.
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choobakka

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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #379 on: June 07, 2011, 06:56:35 pm »

Braindead? Little problem. "Warlocks can be any non-Outsider." And you're an outsider.
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Lord Braindead

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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #380 on: June 07, 2011, 07:04:00 pm »

Actually thats what I always assumed. He is a harvester devil after all.
Being an evil, fiendish lawyer is not just a job for him but his sole purpose for existence.

The Barrister of the Nine Hells is actually the polar opposite of a harvester. The class allows you to call outsiders and try to make contracts with them (actually any wizard can do that, the barrister is just better at it). Besides, the Barrister is very overpowered at higher levels. At 6th level he can send outsiders on suicide missions for free and at 10th level he never pays for anything that they do for him. At level 15 (5th level wizard, 10th level barrister) you could call a Paelyrion (devil, CR18) and offer him a ridiculously high payment so that he does whatever you want for free. You don't have to pay him anyway so...

I'm perfectly fine with building some golems from the souls of the fools who thought they made the deal of their life. Thank you very much.

Edit: I made some changes to the warlock class so that I get most of the stuff a normal harvester devil gets for free as class features later on. I think that should be not a problem.
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choobakka

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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #381 on: June 07, 2011, 07:21:00 pm »

I mean, you're a demon. But the whole warlock thing is that you sell your soul to a demon. Do demons have souls of their own? To sell for powers?
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Lord Braindead

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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #382 on: June 07, 2011, 07:28:17 pm »

As far as I know a warlock hasn't sold his soul but is ancestors somehow hat contact with fiends while others just somehow are just susceptible for the powers of the lower planes.

One of the reason I have chosen warlock as my class was because it blends in rather well with the devil background. If the power is granted by fiends, why shouldn't they be able to wield them themselves? On the mechanical side, fiends use usually spell like abilities, not arcane or divine magic and thus are closer to an warlock then to a wizard.
I also just checked the Complete Arcana and couldn't find a restriction to the homeplane of a warlock there.
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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #383 on: June 07, 2011, 07:32:16 pm »

Oh, I was looking at a different book. So you don't actually cast spells? You just have spell-like abilities?
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Atomicdremora

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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #384 on: June 07, 2011, 07:33:06 pm »

fuck it, he's a warlock fiend.
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Araph

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« Reply #385 on: June 07, 2011, 07:45:27 pm »

fuck it, he's a warlock fiend.

That's a good enough answer for me.
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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #386 on: June 07, 2011, 07:49:59 pm »

That's a good enough answer for me.
^This.^
I LIKE this
« Last Edit: June 07, 2011, 07:52:08 pm by Atomicdremora »
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Lord Braindead

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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #387 on: June 07, 2011, 08:01:29 pm »

fuck it, he's a warlock fiend.

Does that count as a backstory? :D

Anyway, your thoughts on the soul-buying stuff Araph?
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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #388 on: June 07, 2011, 08:02:07 pm »

fuck it, he's a warlock fiend.

Does that count as a backstory? :D
Best. Backstory. Ever.  ;D
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Re: Reversed Roles: A D&D 3.5 Campaign
« Reply #389 on: June 07, 2011, 08:12:07 pm »

All of what you said seems ok to me. Basically, take anything you could imagine
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putting in a contract, and you can put that in a contract.
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