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[Criptfeind]

Cript gave his land requirements. John just needs to move. Does appear to be Cript's biggest complaint. I mean John's mouthed off to me and i'm not rampaging all over his lands for giggles.

I am not quite sure. But I get the feeling you can hardly afford to do things for giggles.

[Johnfalcon99977]

As I have said, I will not accept any land loss. I want my borders full again and I will never take down my religon.

[Terenos]

Yeah..Thats really not something on the table there John. I mean feel free to keep fighting, Just the less reasonable you seem ,the less reasonable Cripts gonna be. And he has the obvious advantage.

[Criptfeind]

Johny-o. You should deal well you still have things to deal with.

Soon you will have nothing but the pity province Phantom gave you, and then what do you have to offer me to not shut down down your religion? To not stay in open warfare with you?

[adwarf]

A pretty kitty ?

[Criptfeind]

Sorry. I am not into that furry stuff.

[Johnfalcon99977]

A pretty kitty ?

Seeing as there are feline Ariani, that can be taken VERY wrong.

[Criptfeind]

I don't know about you guys, but I enjoy the diplomacy and all this we are doing. If you guys don't want to do it, you don't have to be the middle man Terenos.

[Terenos]

Heh. Its fun enough. So, John, considering that Cript feels he has every advantage and cant lose, the best deal I could wrangle you was the following:

You surrender, without terms, and are allowed to keep N Beaton. Your permitted military spending will be controlled by Cript, and you will repay him for his losses after a period of time that allows your income to recover. Refusing these terms means you will be removed from the north, and Cript may do more against you (such as destroying your religion, remaining in open war with you)

[Criptfeind]

John. I want you to know, I do not lie nearly as much as you seem to think I do.

Edit: Also, this is a one time thing. If you refuse it, even for a second, it is gone, never to return.

Edit 2: WHOA WHOA WHOA

Don't think money is the way to solve all your problems.

BLASPHEMY

Also another threat from John. Something tells me he is not going for it.

[Johnfalcon99977]

You surrender, without terms, and are allowed to keep N Beaton. Your permitted military spending will be controlled by Cript, and you will repay him for his losses after a period of time that allows your income to recover. Refusing these terms means you will be removed from the north, and Cript may do more against you (such as destroying your religion, remaining in open war with you)

Funny seeing how you straight up engnored my requests. I said I will not accept anything that says I give up land, because MY GOAL IS UNITE THE ARIANI, AND IF HE HAS ANY OF MAY LAND I NEED TO TAKE IT BACK. BY FORCE.

That deal just ends in more wars! It does not solve anything at all! I think you need to think it over again!

Besides, there are far more clauses then giving him land, I am willing to be in dept to him FOR HIS ENTIRE TIME IN THE GAME! I am willing to be forced into EVERY WAR HE MAKES! I am willing to be force to GIVE HIM EVERY TECH I EVERY RESREACH!

I don't think you understand when I say I'll do anything but give away land and denouce Kiasa.

[Terenos]

I.. don't think you understand that he doesn't care about those things. We talked about what he wanted, I tried to factor in what you wanted too, but theres no space for both of your desires. And hes got the advantage.

[Criptfeind]

John. Think of it this way. Your useless prattling has made it so I will unite the beast men. You win! Besides, you just said you were angry at Sheb for letting RPing color how he played. Do not be a hypocrite.

[Johnfalcon99977]

John. Think of it this way. Your useless prattling has made it so I will unite the beast men. You win! Besides, you just said you were angry at Sheb for letting RPing color how he played. Do not be a hypocrite.

Yeah, united under a leader that says hes going to MERCILESS SLAUGHTER AND ENSLAVE THEM, AND NOT TO FORGET DESTORY THEIR ONLY RELIGON.
Thats not exactly the "united" my species was going for.

Edit: And I wasn't angry at Sheb for it, I was just annoyed at it >.>

[Criptfeind]

I am not going to do that. I threatened to do so if you did not leave peacefully. But there are no real in game actions I can take to do so.

Really, that looting every fricking body thing you did (which you then proceeded to waste on worthless caravans) hurt the beast men much more then I ever will.

I would even go as far as to say I would be better for them then you.