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Sutremaine

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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2011, 06:27:15 pm »

The biggest one, I think, is the lack of real graphics.  Think on it this way; if DF was ultra-realistic 3D, do you think everyone would be quite so willing to pull a magma lever and watch as a mass of people melted horribly right in their faces?  Or would Adventure Mode players be so earnest in tearing the limbs off an elf and then crack his head open with it, watching as the guts and brains oozed out?  I sort of doubt it.
Nah, I still think they would. I don't know about ultra realistic, but I bought Soul Reaver on the strength of the demo that let you beat the crap out of enemies in a variety of ways. And because they were vampires, you could pull the bit of railing out and do it all over again.
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Honestly at the time, I didn't see what could go wrong with crowding 80 military Dwarves into a small room with a necromancer for the purpose of making bacon.

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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2011, 06:36:29 pm »

For a serious answer, not all of us do those things. In fact, [humorless prude]I sometimes find the whole "ha ha you should kill the elves and atom smash migrants" thing to be kind of annoying.[/humorless prude]

I do slaughter puppies and kittens by the truckload, but that's not a bad thing! It's good clean fun.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2011, 06:40:22 pm »

For a serious answer, not all of us do those things. In fact, [humorless prude]I sometimes find the whole "ha ha you should kill the elves and atom smash migrants" thing to be kind of annoying.[/humorless prude]

I agree. Its tiresome and repetitive without adding anything to the conversation, like the guys who offer tech support advice by saying you should install Ubuntu.



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I do slaughter puppies and kittens by the truckload, but that's not a bad thing! It's good clean fun.


I just do this for population control. If there were a way to spay/neuter pets I'd be all over that instead of slaughtering them all. :(
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2011, 06:45:00 pm »

If there were a way to spay/neuter pets I'd be all over that instead of slaughtering them all. :(
HEAR THAT TOADY!!! GIVE THE ANIMAL CARE TAKERS REAL JOBS!!!
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2011, 06:59:21 pm »

By the seven hundred and seventy-seven names of the god of blood. Legendary Animal Caretaker takes on a whole new light.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2011, 07:02:43 pm »

Nice try, trolls.



Everyone does this once in a while for fun, don't get moralfag "i don't do this because I'm good god". Admit, the dorfs deserve it. The kittens deserve it. The elfs and all their useless cloth deserve it. The immigrants that pass the population cap deserve it. The goblins sure deserve it.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2011, 07:20:07 pm »

The magma deserves it.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2011, 07:41:52 pm »

I do it because I can.  Really, where ELSE can you do this?  I play an MMO, and kill a bear and all that happens is -12 HP.  I try and kill the NPC and nothing happens.  I play an RTS and try to butcher my enemy wholesale, and I can't.  I try and build a magma moat and I get told "we don't support that.  Try watchtowers, we have watchtowers, you'll like watchtowers."  For me it is very much a way to vent, doing things that I otherwise can't do.  Where else am I going to have my main defense be a minotaur, and my backup defense a magma flood?

Plus, it's fun.  Let's be real here, you can make a peaceful fort, walled up and patiently growing.  But that's not fun.  Sure there's the architecture and the caretaking, but then you get that goblin ambush and something happens.  Someone dies, someone tantrums, you react, and it gets handled one way or another.  There's only so many ways to keep someone alive, but there's endless ways to kill.

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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2011, 08:10:41 pm »

It's revenge for the abuse the game inflicts upon us as we attempt to learn it.

Ah truer than you think.

There's nothing like having a smoothy-running fort of about 180 dwarves living in dwarven splendor and luxury, then some stupid forgotten beast comes along and sprays half your population with face-rot, including your carefully-trained and armored military. 

So at this point you have a hundred permanently injured and disabled dwarves.  What do you do?  Take care of their poor invalid selves for the rest of the life of your fortress?  Of course not!  If you did that, you'd never get new migrants to replace them.  So you chuck 'em in magma.  Or put 'em under a drawbridge.  Or poke them over and over with wooden spikes to train your doctors.  Or wall them in until they starve or dehydrate to death.  And cross your fingers that your solid gold dining room/meeting hall is enough to prevent an inevitable tantrum spiral.  Which is then kicked off anyway because someone's Armok-forsaken kitten gets stabbed by a goblin thief.

At some point you just snap after all the abuse you and your dwarves take and decide to become the Chaotic Evil, iron-fisted ruler who demands their orders be followed to the letter on pain of magma.  That's when you start your "Magma-powered Kitten Cannon" megaproject, or insist on only drafting female dwarves with kids into your military and put 'em into a danger room.

I once managed to capture the leader of the goblin civilization during a siege.  I stripped her bare, built a glass-encased danger room in the middle of the meeting hall, furnished with solid-gold masterwork furniture, dropped her into it and set the training spears going.  I wanted all my nobles to know, "I can release her any time I want. Follow. Orders."

And because throwing an unarmed goblin into a pit/pasture full of 30 kittens just to see who wins is fun.
 
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I don't understand, though that is about right with anything DF related.
I just hope he dies the same death that all dwarfs deserve: liver disease.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2011, 08:46:42 pm »

Eh, I'm not any more "good" than anyone else here. The assumption that everyone plays that same exact way kind of bugs me, but that's not important. I'm being too serious. I take my complaint back.

Anyways, people drop elves in magma because they can. Because the game is such that you can play any damn way you please. There are very few limits, and it's fun to test those limits, and that's fine.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2011, 09:08:58 pm »

I'm a bad person because I'm a great dwarf.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2011, 09:19:04 pm »

I'm a bad person because I'm great dwarf.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2011, 09:19:30 pm »

We're not bad. We're resourceful.
And the kittens are not real. They feel no pain, nor sorrow. And the babies, they don't scream when they burn. I'm telling you, it's all fake, just an illusion. Magma is not real! I can do it because it's not real. Take the blue pill! Or was it red... Good, I'm good. I like leather and bone crafts. I'm not bad. They'll never get me, I'll just abandon and start over. Who? What? I'd do it again, just the same. No I don't feel any remorse. There's blood everywhere. I forgot to disable spatter in the config. But it's too late now. It's never too late! Just few more hours and I'll have an avil. In the papers, they call me the Taxidermist. I want an anvil. How can he butcher them without metal tools? When an ASCII kitten dies in the fortress, and there's no sound support, does it still make a noise? The voices! Why is there no magma on ebay? Who is you? I'm not going anywhere. Leave me be, you're not welcome here. Wait, don't go there! It's just a cage full of crafts. NO! THEY DESERVED IT! THEY WERE SLOWING ME DOWN. SLOWING EVERYTHING DOWN! THE WORLD. Let me pull my lever.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2011, 09:25:14 pm »

"Let me pull my lever" sounds like a euphemism.
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Re: Why are we such bad people? xD
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2011, 09:35:43 pm »

As it should. It's really deep, you know. And with hidden layers and extra superificial meanings and sarcastic critique of something, I think.
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