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[Bouchart]

The biological imperative to... pursue 'pleasure' for ones self if undeniable. This usually takes the form of getting laid.

What do I care for your desires? Pleasure, even ecstasy, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind.

Thank you Chairman Yang.

[Dwarf]

Seriously… what about the middle road?
As in, being a perfectly 'normal' dude most of the time,
with the desire to, here and there, just waste the fuck out of him and try to get laid?

(Try because, c'mon. Nobody likes really drunk people.)

[Tokkius]

The 'college is for booze and sex' argument is there because once its legal, you're going to do it, as much as you can. (Drink and f**k)

False.

As I can confirm. Seriously, Some people simply aren't interested in either.

Agreed.

[Soadreqm]

Seriously… what about the middle road?
As in, being a perfectly 'normal' dude most of the time,
with the desire to, here and there, just waste the fuck out of him and try to get laid?

(Try because, c'mon. Nobody likes really drunk people.)

That's fine too, I guess. If you're into that sort of thing.

Well, I don't think approaching most matters of human culture in terms of "normal" and "deviant" is really the way to go. There is no ideal "normal person" to whom all others are compared. There is only the statistical average, and you are a special snowflake no matter where you land on the bell curve.

[Zrk2]

Yes, you're unique, just like everyone else.

[Dwarf]

Seriously… what about the middle road?
As in, being a perfectly 'normal' dude most of the time,
with the desire to, here and there, just waste the fuck out of him and try to get laid?

(Try because, c'mon. Nobody likes really drunk people.)

That's fine too, I guess. If you're into that sort of thing.

Well, I don't think approaching most matters of human culture in terms of "normal" and "deviant" is really the way to go. There is no ideal "normal person" to whom all others are compared. There is only the statistical average, and you are a special snowflake no matter where you land on the bell curve.

That's why I put '' there.

[Virex]

Yes, you're unique, just like everyone else.

I'm not!

Anyway, I don't think people who get wasted in an attempt to get laid have thought it trough fully. you loosen up after a few beers already and anything beyond that is just going to make things, let's call it, more complicated. Plus it can't be easy to explain some things the next morning if your head's feeling like it's been dragged trough Cairo on the back of a police car last night...


I have noticed though that once people get started, they usually don't moderate their beer intake (quite the opposite actually), so that could help as well.

[Dwarf]

Well, I can drink a lot, and I mean like, totally hammered, but my head is a-ok, always. So there's no real reason not to get drunk.


(note: second part's sarcasm)

[GlyphGryph]

Having thrown a good number of parties and events...

Of course "whatever stupid event it is, is just an excuse to hang out with people. "
But its just... easier... if you can give people an excuse to let themselves go. A lot of people are really nervous around strangers, and its not the booze so much as the comfort it provides. It gives them plausible deniability for their actions, and thus loosen up enough to actually enjoy themselves. Hell, I've seen it work where all the booze was replaced by fake booze - a lot of "drunkenness" is acting, and most people won't notice unless they are trying to get more than tipsy.

And a lot of others, like myself, don't NEED an excuse to hang out with people. I tend go to events if the activity its based around interests me - the social aspect is just a bonus. If I really want to hang out with people, I phone around until I find two or three other people that are interested and then we go hang out. People who need an "event" to hang out with people are generally the same sort of people who probably need the alcohol.

Now, I have had a few successfull large-scale events without any booze at all, but I find these tend to work best when you give people a real reason to come - something a bit out of the ordinary. Also, look at the background of your friends - theatre people and gamers tend to really get into murder mysteries, and you can usually use them to form a solid and reliable core. Foodies and adventurous folk can be tempted with a party centered around some exotic food like miracle berries. Basically, you need something that will convince the people who attend they have something in common with each other, and REALLY give them an excuse to come if they don't want to feel like they went just to socialize.

If you're aiming for larger groups, like 8+, when inviting people, aim for "cores", the sort of people who sort of steer their own little social groups. Don't just invite people at random, invite the people who can inspire others to join who were on the fence. Keep in mind that many people are lazy and poorly organized. Plan at least a week in advance. Call once before the day and the day of to make sure they are still coming, especially if they are a core participant. There are a surprising number of people who want to come, who really would enjoy coming, but just don't really feel like dragging themselves outside to do it. Give em a push and help em along, but only if you think thats the reason - others really would just rather do something else.

I don't really know where I'm going with this though, on account of the derail and the fact that I'm not really sure what the original post was about.

Edit to add:
Sometimes events flop. Something else more interesting comes along the same group wants to go to, or people just get busy, or there's inclement weather, or a host of reasons. Usually, though, it's because the person planning the event.

[nenjin]

You guys realize you've probably just been trolled by someone who hasn't even had sex yet, right?

You learn later in life that while it's great, it's not the reason to get out of bed, or get into bed during your day. And you learn you sound like a knuckle-dragging moron when you run around going "WOOWOO SEX!" all the time, at the very least.

[Jackrabbit]

I'm so looking forward to looking back on my teen years.

[Zrk2]

Having thrown a good number of parties and events...

Of course "whatever stupid event it is, is just an excuse to hang out with people. "
But its just... easier... if you can give people an excuse to let themselves go. A lot of people are really nervous around strangers, and its not the booze so much as the comfort it provides. It gives them plausible deniability for their actions, and thus loosen up enough to actually enjoy themselves. Hell, I've seen it work where all the booze was replaced by fake booze - a lot of "drunkenness" is acting, and most people won't notice unless they are trying to get more than tipsy.

And a lot of others, like myself, don't NEED an excuse to hang out with people. I tend go to events if the activity its based around interests me - the social aspect is just a bonus. If I really want to hang out with people, I phone around until I find two or three other people that are interested and then we go hang out. People who need an "event" to hang out with people are generally the same sort of people who probably need the alcohol.

Now, I have had a few successfull large-scale events without any booze at all, but I find these tend to work best when you give people a real reason to come - something a bit out of the ordinary. Also, look at the background of your friends - theatre people and gamers tend to really get into murder mysteries, and you can usually use them to form a solid and reliable core. Foodies and adventurous folk can be tempted with a party centered around some exotic food like miracle berries. Basically, you need something that will convince the people who attend they have something in common with each other, and REALLY give them an excuse to come if they don't want to feel like they went just to socialize.

If you're aiming for larger groups, like 8+, when inviting people, aim for "cores", the sort of people who sort of steer their own little social groups. Don't just invite people at random, invite the people who can inspire others to join who were on the fence. Keep in mind that many people are lazy and poorly organized. Plan at least a week in advance. Call once before the day and the day of to make sure they are still coming, especially if they are a core participant. There are a surprising number of people who want to come, who really would enjoy coming, but just don't really feel like dragging themselves outside to do it. Give em a push and help em along, but only if you think thats the reason - others really would just rather do something else.

I don't really know where I'm going with this though, on account of the derail and the fact that I'm not really sure what the original post was about.

Edit to add:
Sometimes events flop. Something else more interesting comes along the same group wants to go to, or people just get busy, or there's inclement weather, or a host of reasons. Usually, though, it's because the person planning the event.

I now need to throw a party where we play a game of mafia now... /ultraderail

[Chutney]

okay, so can we at least agree that the majority of men, and the majority of women, like to get laid, and alcohol certainly helps that process both ways? making Vector's scathing initial response way back on page 1, and overall negative attitude since then, a little bit uncalled for?

I mean, I guess I could be wrong. I guess that maybe the majority of the population is asexual, and the media is just pushing this image of sexuality on everyone. It doesn't really make sense for their marketing departments to be so hilariously wrong that they're making all this sexualized stuff which only attracts the attention of less than half of society.
More likely, and I say this after many years of careful observation of course, is that asexuals are special snowflake cases, and as anyone who has taken a science lab can tell you: just because one test resulted in say, .01m travelled, but every other test resulted in 20m travelled, does not mean it is impossible to generalize the data set.

also, haha, I am a scientist!!! It says so, right on my degree! Leave the science to me! Haha, haha! Haha! Vector, it was pretty rude of you to generalize that I WASN'T a scientist.

Sure, perhaps most posters--or even just a vocal subset--share these traits, but you shouldn't just lie down and listen as we sit around saying that we all do.
Why fall back on these unenlightened generalizations, when we can look to the core of the issue and become wise--or at least wiser?
Just because the majority of the people on these boards AREN'T scientists, doesn't mean you can just lay around and

[Cheeetar]

The biological imperative to... pursue 'pleasure' for ones self if undeniable. This usually takes the form of getting laid.

What do I care for your desires? Pleasure, even ecstasy, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind.

Thank you Chairman Yang.

I knew I'd heard that from somewhere.

[Soadreqm]

More likely, and I say this after many years of careful observation of course, is that asexuals are special snowflake cases, and as anyone who has taken a science lab can tell you: just because one test resulted in say, .01m travelled, but every other test resulted in 20m travelled, does not mean it is impossible to generalize the data set.

Depends. You're expected to explain WHY one of the results is wrong by several orders of magnitude. Usually it's because you botched the test, in which case it can safely be ignored. In this case, that would mean that all 'non-mainstream' sexual behavior is just something that the psychologists made up. Homosexuality simply doesn't exist. Just like the proper Victorian times.

To go back to hydrogen, suppose about one in every six thousand hydrogen atoms you weight is about twice as heavy as the average. That's pretty easy to not even notice, and if you did notice it, you could blame it on yourself or your equipment. Meanwhile, in the real world, 1/6400 is pretty much the abundance of deuterium in seawater. If you fail to notice that, your groundbreaking theory on hydrogen atomic weight will be wrong, and you will never discover the wonderful world of isotopes.