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[Virtz]

Not intended to be insulting, but you show me a game developer that makes every tree individually,in a game world of this size and I will show you a bunch people with deep mental issues or far too much time and money.

none insult taken, maybe i should have been more clear. i understand trees are pre-renderedbut there "is" variety among the five/six trees taken, and maybe they are placed in such a way that they look different (like, turned of 78 degrees or similar)

The trees in Oblivion are all procedurally generated using SpeedTree...

And they all look horribly samey. Whatever branch geometry it might be generating, it's all covered by a dreadful looking canopy. The only really visible difference between various trees is the type of texture used for the leaves and bark.

[Soadreqm]

I don't know why we're talking about this in the Skyrim thread, but there's basically no way I can resist joining in.

But it's still wrong according to the license, and it's also full of ****. I hate copyright laws these days, they are so wrong.

You won't be violating copyright law. Depending on where you live, borrowing video games could very well be explicitly allowed under Fair Use. You will be violating the end user license agreement. You have most likely not read the EULA, or consciously accepted it, which is all fine and good, as those things have never been successfully enforced in court, and probably never will be. There are requirements a contract must fulfill to have legal value.

If you make a business out of renting video games, though, you probably should get a proper license for it. Making money with someone else's intellectual property is generally not protected by Fair Use, and if you're making a lot of money, it might actually be economically sound for someone to sue you.

[Shadowlord]

If XBox 360 games come with an EULA, I've never noticed it and was never asked to accept it, so I would tend to doubt that it could stand up in court.

[Grakelin]

To be honest, I noticed several flaws with Oblivion, but the variety of tree species was not one of the ones I complained about.

That's going so far beyond whining it's not even funny.

[shadenight123]

To be honest, I noticed several flaws with Oblivion, but the variety of tree species was not one of the ones I complained about.

That's going so far beyond whining it's not even funny.

now now, i think there's a misunderstanding.
it's not whining about a game.
the fact was about fast travel yes/no.
and as a Pro for fast travel, i said that, in the event of a boring background, scenery which seems copy-pasted every so-so meters fast travel should be used, because while it covers a flaw of the developper, who lessened the time in artistic scenery, he did so to increase the time on something else. i wouldn't care less about wherever or not trees are identical, or not, or similar. i'd complain if i were to see slaughterfishes spawning in the sky for a bug glitch or similar.

[Jehdin]

Skyrim demo impressions from QuakeCon

Not really anything new, unfortunately.

Edit: Another from someone who actually played it.

And another.

[Duke 2.0]

 Digging a review that has nothing to do with dragons. They do look cool but I am more interested in the underlying mechanics. I do wish to see these animations though.

[KaelGotDwarves]

I am... less than pleased with this $60 release pricepoint.

[KaguroDraven]

I am... less than pleased with this $60 release pricepoint.

Yes, less than pleased with $60, which most full games, and some expansion packs, sell at now. That makes perfect sense.
Just wait until it's in the bargin bin, patches and mods will be out and it will be cheaper.

[Virtz]

I am... less than pleased with this $60 release pricepoint.

Yes, less than pleased with $60, which most full games, and some expansion packs, sell at now. That makes perfect sense.

That's funny because all the fairly recent releases I got were considerably cheaper. I ain't sure how prices between countries translate, but here I got new stuff for 45 bucks or less. At most it was like 47 for Portal 2 or something. But Dead Rising 2, Two Worlds 2, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and The Witcher 2 I got for like 35-40 when they were just released.

[Leatra]

Fast travel was there because travelling is very boring. Cyrodiil looks all the same but Vvardenfell doesn't. I tried not to use fast travel to take fun in travelling between cities like in Morrowind but truth is travelling at Oblivion is nothing more than a pain in the ass. This fast travel system is one of the biggest reasons why I think Oblivion is better as an action game, not a RPG. You shouldn't play it like a RPG. I mean, you can't even get tired by running...

[Catastrophic lolcats]

I am... less than pleased with this $60 release pricepoint.

Yes, less than pleased with $60, which most full games, and some expansion packs, sell at now. That makes perfect sense.
Just wait until it's in the bargin bin, patches and mods will be out and it will be cheaper.

It's 90 dollars here and our currency is currently stronger than the USD.
Price gouging at it's best!

[forsaken1111]

I am... less than pleased with this $60 release pricepoint.

Yes, less than pleased with $60, which most full games, and some expansion packs, sell at now. That makes perfect sense.
Just wait until it's in the bargin bin, patches and mods will be out and it will be cheaper.

It's 90 dollars here and our currency is currently stronger than the USD.
Price gouging at it's best!

I'll ship you one for 60 USD plus a small fee.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Generous of you but I think I'd rather just bitch about the game rather than do anything about it.
It's the Gamer way!

[Cecilff2]

http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/08/05/quakecon-2011-skyrim-collectors-edition-announced/

Hooo boy.  what a price