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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2010, 05:48:09 pm »
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Quote from: Vector on December 01, 2010, 05:35:20 pm
... Can you actually name an attractive geek female in any work?  I can't.
Willow in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

For some reason I don't feel like she's a good example. Yeah, she's a geek, yeah she's attractive, but I always get the feeling that she's just nerd bait. Same with the protagonist of Dresden Codak.

Maybe it's just my inherent distrust of Whedon's feminist intentions.
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2010, 05:54:15 pm »
Most females in sci-fi and fantasy series are nerd bait and not representative of real women.

In fact, women in most works of fiction or art...

That's a side effect of patriarchal and male-dominated societies. Celtic stories of female warriors are a bit different though ;)
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2010, 05:56:18 pm »
Most movie characters are sexualized, period. Do you think that male action stars are shirtless half the time because the movie's story requires it?
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2010, 05:56:51 pm »
Yeah... pff.  How annoying.

I think the most annoying thing is when nerds declare their nerd-bait a "strong, well-developed female character."  Makes you wonder what they think women are actually like.


Quote from: DJ on December 01, 2010, 05:56:18 pm
Most movie characters are sexualized, period. Do you think that male action stars are shirtless half the time because the movie's story requires it?

Eh, I guess I'm thinking more about novels, at this point.
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2010, 05:57:05 pm »
Don't forget Agent Skully

She can be considered a female geek.

Gabriel also is a Female geek
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2010, 05:59:07 pm »
Quote from: Vector on December 01, 2010, 05:56:51 pm
Yeah... pff.  How annoying.

I think the most annoying thing is when nerds declare their nerd-bait a "strong, well-developed female character."  Makes you wonder what they think women are actually like.

Eh, I guess I'm thinking more about novels, at this point.
Lyra Belacqua from Northern Lights/His Dark Materials.
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« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2010, 06:00:30 pm »
Yes, but she is not nerd-bait >_>

At least... I hope not...
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2010, 06:01:59 pm »
I was going for a recent example that I've read of a
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I think it's a good example because she develops from a girl to a woman by the end of the series, not because "nerd-bait" <.<
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2010, 06:03:59 pm »
Kaylee from Serenity/Firefly?
Kate Beckett from Castle?
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« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2010, 06:04:42 pm »
Kaylee... ?

Other than never driving any plot anywhere, I guess...
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2010, 06:04:58 pm »
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Kaylee from Serenity/Firefly?
Horribly, horribly nerd-bait.
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2010, 06:05:16 pm »
Quote from: DJ on December 01, 2010, 05:56:18 pm
Most movie characters are sexualized, period. Do you think that male action stars are shirtless half the time because the movie's story requires it?

Yeah, and because of that I wouldn't consider their attractiveness as a positive break against a stereotype. It's just sexualization to attract viewers. Nothing really admirable about that.
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2010, 06:05:31 pm »
For some reason, "nerd bait" makes me imagine dangling a rare comic out of the window on a fishing line.

In any case, we seem to have hit something of a "no true Scotsman" here.
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2010, 06:06:08 pm »
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Re: I Hate The Fact "Geek" Is "Cool"
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2010, 06:11:35 pm »
So what *are* our search parameters here?
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