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[Hugehead]

Well, sounds like there's no question to me about Guild Wars 2 or Rift, with GW2 no having subscription fees, and the base game is only gonna cost 50 or 60 dollars, while this is gonna cost 50 and a sub.

[Soulwynd]

You're making the milking machine sad. But worry not, with GW2 you have to pay another 50 bucks every 6 months.

[Sirian]

I found a funny thread on mmorpg.com about Rift and mmos in general 

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/431/view/forums/thread/305451/CLONE.html

here are the pictures, stolen for posterity (but i recommend reading the thread for better comprehension):

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

First showing how Rift ripped Pong :


Then another series comparing different MMOs :

Everquest :


WoW :


Rift :


Aion :


Dark age of Camelot :


Final Fantasy XIV :


Star Wars : The Old Republic :


Age of Conan :


WoW, corrected :


DC Universe Online :

[Zangi]

I'm gonna say, going from both the tutorials and an hour or 2 in... doesn't seem so bad...  That is about as far as I got into it.

[Bluerobin]

Yeah and I've heard that the 1-10 experience in general is less appealing, or at least a little bit watered down, especially with regards to the rifts. I'm looking forward to playing around with it more this weekend.

[Zangi]

So it gets better?  Cool then, guess I'll dig deeper with Urist... Warlord/Champion/Paladin Dwarf in the next beta run...

[Tobel]

Open beta starts Feb 15th for anyone still interested. I've got myself pre-ordered and trying to find a good guild to get in with before launch.

[jnecros]

just crazy to me that MMOs fly out the door at 14.95 a month, maybe Rift will be less who knows..all I do know is that love it or hate it, WoW is the only game worth 15 a month because the amount of demand (aka basic economy supply vs demand)..all the rest of the mmos, and most especailly those in serious trouble like age of conan, need to lower the damn price or go f2p with item shops.

Rift is going to have to be just overwlemingly badass to move me to open my wallet, but I will try to take the open beta out for a whirl just for the hell of it.

[Tobel]

just crazy to me that MMOs fly out the door at 14.95 a month, maybe Rift will be less who knows..all I do know is that love it or hate it, WoW is the only game worth 15 a month because the amount of demand (aka basic economy supply vs demand)..all the rest of the mmos, and most especailly those in serious trouble like age of conan, need to lower the damn price or go f2p with item shops.

Rift is going to have to be just overwlemingly badass to move me to open my wallet, but I will try to take the open beta out for a whirl just for the hell of it.

I agree with you really. A large number of games release at 15 per month and it hurts. However, I did enjoy the WoW comfy slippers feel, and Rift really brings that back for me. I'd like to get another WoWish game from the start, and I think this is a good chance for it.

[Fikes]

just crazy to me that MMOs fly out the door at 14.95 a month, maybe Rift will be less who knows..all I do know is that love it or hate it, WoW is the only game worth 15 a month because the amount of demand (aka basic economy supply vs demand)..all the rest of the mmos, and most especailly those in serious trouble like age of conan, need to lower the damn price or go f2p with item shops.

Rift is going to have to be just overwlemingly badass to move me to open my wallet, but I will try to take the open beta out for a whirl just for the hell of it.

I agree with you really. A large number of games release at 15 per month and it hurts. However, I did enjoy the WoW comfy slippers feel, and Rift really brings that back for me. I'd like to get another WoWish game from the start, and I think this is a good chance for it.

I disagree with both of you. MMO’s and video games are insanely cheap entertainment. I am paying 15 a month for WAR (which is dying) right now. It isn’t the best game, definitely lacks the polish of WOW, but I am playing maybe 8 or so hours a week. That is 32 hours a month. That is .50 cents an hour.

I will say though, that NEW MMOs need to do a better job of giving free trials. If I missed the open beta for rift, there would be no way I’d pay for the game and hoping it was fun.

[jnecros]

Free trials are always a good thing

and

you may be proving the point, because WAR is 15 a month and WAR is dying..not to mention 15 is the top price for the most in-demand game, hence less in-demand games should cost less by basic economic tenements (Edit): WAR screwed itself for many reasons of course, but how can Mythic excuse charging this much per month when the damn classes were so massively unbalanced (not sure if they still are or not)? Reguardless of how much per hour it breaks down to, WAR, AOC, and all these others that are holding out should either drop price or go f2p because they failed to secure and keep broad sub bases for lots of reasons, maybe things would have been different if they charged less per month, maybe not.

at any rate, still hope that Rift is less than 15 a month, they can always raise it later, after they have a population on the hook. Screens look good, though the UI is a WoW rip for the most part. I like how much beta testing they are doing, makes sense considering how disastrous ultra-buggy releases are to mmos, which has been the kiss of death for many.

[Sirian]

I agree that mmos charge too much, i know that the french mmo dofus was a hit among teenagers a couple years ago because it was cheap and had a free trial zone.

[Bluerobin]

Ah Dofus, that brings me back...

I'll be on the open beta, most definitely. Might try out a cleric instead of the mage I've been playing.

[Farseer]

Grabbed the open beta only to find I'd been invited to every single closed beta since the second one. xD

Oh, well.

Is it any good?

[Farseer]

Open beta has just started. I'm on Sunrest RP-PvP. Can I suggest we join up and all go dwarf?