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[Spade]

No, they were reminding me of the question.

I currently don't know. It probably depends on whether or not Ottofar is town or mafia.

really? because your quote seems to say you think one of those voting for ottofar is mafia regardless of his alignment

I also mentioned that was a guess. I said it's possible they're all town.

[KaminaSquirtle]

And Kamina i really doubt ottofar will post anything of substance as he seems resigned to his lynch like a good scum would be

Sure looks like it.
I guess I'll just have to wait for day 2, there should be plenty to talk about then.
Or when Jetsquirrel catches up and starts posting interesting posts, that should be very interesting.

Jetsquirrel:  How do you intend to play differently than Elegy?  How well would you say he played, on a scale of 1-10?  Why?

Gotta read this whole thing so it's gonna take some time for a oppinion.

That's cool.
Eagerly looking forward to you finishing reading the thread.

[Flintus10]

No, they were reminding me of the question.

I currently don't know. It probably depends on whether or not Ottofar is town or mafia.

I also mentioned that was a guess. I said it's possible they're all town.

Fair enough you but most of your replies just seem so curt and lacking in much content so I am trying to get your opinion on things.

[Ottofar]

There is no point in not lynching me, as I would screw the town over at LyLo.

Anyways, why would I resign to my lynch if I was scum. No. That'd take out 50% of all the mafia. When you lynch town, you take out 1/7th of the town.

[Flintus10]

There is no point in not lynching me, as I would screw the town over at LyLo.

Anyways, why would I resign to my lynch if I was scum. No. That'd take out 50% of all the mafia. When you lynch town, you take out 1/7th of the town.

Because if you were mafia you'd realise your screwed and just want to end it but if you were a good townie you would know you were innocent and therefor at least try to find the real mafia

[Ottofar]

There is no point in not lynching me, as I would screw the town over at LyLo.

Anyways, why would I resign to my lynch if I was scum. No. That'd take out 50% of all the mafia. When you lynch town, you take out 1/7th of the town.

Because if you were mafia you'd realise your screwed and just want to end it but if you were a good townie you would know you were innocent and therefor at least try to find the real mafia

I have. Elesquirrel.

[Flintus10]

There is no point in not lynching me, as I would screw the town over at LyLo.

Anyways, why would I resign to my lynch if I was scum. No. That'd take out 50% of all the mafia. When you lynch town, you take out 1/7th of the town.

Because if you were mafia you'd realise your screwed and just want to end it but if you were a good townie you would know you were innocent and therefor at least try to find the real mafia

I have. Elesquirrel.

So you keep saying so how about a reason he is other than "he defended himself and ma gut says that makes him scum."

[Ottofar]

I... You...

*sigh*

[Flintus10]

Seriously after reviewing Elegy's posts I see no evidence of his confidence growing after Azure revealed his gambit they only got longer but that could just be because you also started to post more content once you realised you were screwed.

If you can prove me wrong please do so

[Toaster]

Vote Count:

ragnarok97071: {1} Spade
Flintus10: {0}
Mindmaker: {0}
Jetsquirrel: {1} Ottofar
Ottofar: {4} Flintus10, Jetsquirrel, Azure Sepulchre, KaminaSquirtle
KaminaSquirtle: {0}
Spade: {0}
Azure Sepulchre: {0}
Murphy: {0}

Not Voting: Murphy, Mindmaker, ragnarok97071

Five extension requests heard.  Day has been extended 24 hours.


Day 1 ends Thursday 10/28 11 PM EST


For reference, extensions require support from at least 33% of the players.  You may oppose extensions as well, which cancels out an extension request.  For example, if there were five players, with two requesting and one opposing, there would be no extension.  (2-1 = 1 of 5, which is 20%)  Please bold requests/opposition to extensions, or Mod/my name if you want to ask me a question in-thread.  (IE: Mod: I have a question!)

[Toaster]

MOD NOTE:

I will be out of town from late Friday to midday Monday.  I'll be able to check the game to see if there are any questions to me, but in all likelihood the night will be mod-lengthened to mid-late Monday, assuming there are no more day extensions.

[KaminaSquirtle]

There is no point in not lynching me, as I would screw the town over at LyLo.

Anyways, why would I resign to my lynch if I was scum. No. That'd take out 50% of all the mafia. When you lynch town, you take out 1/7th of the town.

What could you do but accept it?  I see little way out of a lynch now.
If you were town, you would have stopped this long before this point.
And of course you mentioning that a scum wouldn't let themselves die implies that you still are trying to prove your innocence, thus undermining your argument.

There is no point in not lynching me, as I would screw the town over at LyLo.

Anyways, why would I resign to my lynch if I was scum. No. That'd take out 50% of all the mafia. When you lynch town, you take out 1/7th of the town.

Because if you were mafia you'd realise your screwed and just want to end it but if you were a good townie you would know you were innocent and therefor at least try to find the real mafia

I have. Elesquirrel.

Yet you have little to no evidence, and won't try to find any other possible scum.  There has to be another one in addition to Jetsquirrel.
At this point, if you were town, why wouldn't you dump all your thoughts, so that when we see you were town, we could use them.
A real townie would try to help out his fellow townies before his death.

I... You...

*sigh*

Giving up?
Out of argument?
Despite claiming to have resigned yourself to death, you continue to fight it.  A real townie would at least attempt to make his death a credit to the team.

[Ottofar]

I think I'm gonna throw the 'whatever'-gear on now. Sorry.

[Mindmaker]

I was actually pointing out the fact that you FOS'd me on the basis of apparently having some idea of 'what I was doing'. So because I'd tried out a scum trap, I should be condemned as scummy myself? I don't understand the reasoning behind it. I can at least understand one on Elegy, but it's like you FOS'd me for being town. =/

If (bolded for emphasis) this was a trap, like I described it in my last post, I would have needed some planning and communication. And only two of the players here would be allowed to do that.

Rooting for an underdog in Mafia has as good a chance of sparing a Maf lynch as saving a Town. Just be sure you have more than some sense of justice or morality to uphold before you consider siding with another player, or you'll be dragged down with them if they're not as clean as you'd suspected.

Well I haven't been as active as I wanted to be in the beginning of the game and you could say I'm making up for it now.
It's like the die has been cast, whithout considering what most of the other players are thinking.

I still suspect you more than most others because of your sheer determination to stick by Otto, but not to such a strong degree. A pinky finger at best, Mindmaker. lolucwotididthar

Considering how things have gone, though, you're still my top lynch for tomorrow.

So it's already cast in stone?
Looks like you take care of people who come in your way fairly quick.
How convenient!

Either way, I "play to win".
If Ottofar turns out to be town, we might get a good lead to where the mafia is.
However if he turns out to be mafia, there's a good chance I might become the next lynch.
But if I turn out to be innocent, guess who has a good chance of getting lynched himself?

Unless of course "play to win" was meant as in "survive long enough, to be in the winning party", in which case my sacrifice would be of no earthly use.
Well it's to late to reconsider now...

Otto's answers were just as curt - if not moreso - by comparison (which, I might add, was a point I let go of because he's like that in most games), and Elegy comes across as unfriendly in many games regardless of his character template, from what I've seen and heard. As for evasiveness... I don't recall seeing him acting evasive. I saw him getting annoyed, and little else - as I would be, under the circumstances. How can I call him out on something like that if I would act the same way?

How should I know?
This is my first game of mafia, remember?
Therefore I can't give him the benefit of the doubt.

So these passages, which seem "normal" to you, seem fishy to me.

Cool.

Protip: next time you want to FoS me, have actual reasons, mate.

lol what

There's nothing I can even contend, because you're just putting words in my mouth.. So, uhhh. good? Attack?

P.s. Sidestepping is when you avoid an attack, which... I didn't do... So...

After that he simply ignored your next post.

For your second point: because Otto had captured my interest. Hell, wasn't that obvious? I mean, I've paid about as much attention to Elegy since then as I have to... say, Murphy, this game, but you haven't brought that into question. I had to concentrate on Otto, to make sure he hadn't just stumbled into the elephant trap by accident - I mean, let's face it, that trap on its own wasn't enough to secure a lynch on anyone. I needed to be sure he wasn't town, so I continued to press the advantage the gambit gave me. Personally, I'm as sure right now as I can be that he isn't town.

I have to admit it makes sense.
However you really can't compare Murphy to Elegy, if you walk into a game unprepossessed.
The answer "He always acts like that" isn't satisfactory, when you you play with a bunch of people, who don't actually know him.

lol, that's some knack for subtlety you got thar.

But getting back to the point at hand, I'd considered that, too - at least, I'd considered the gambit might appear as such, but figured it would look like that to some people no matter who I used it on. But there isn't such a thing as a fool-proof method of finding scum. It was risky in execution, but so is every move in Mafia. Would you prefer that we ask one another inane questions until the Maf outnumber the Town?

I'm sorry, if I offended you, but as I said we're running out of time.
And as I already mentioned, it's just one of many possibilities.
If I'd be absolutely sure about the accuracy of my theory, I'd have already cast my vote, wouldn't I?

Most of my points, however, might loose any substance they might have, once Jetsquirrel starts posting.
So all that's left is to wait.

[Mindmaker]

Mindmaker apart from calling him "the underdog" you are still yet to actually give me a proper opinion on Ottofar, do you or do you not think he is scum? Why?

Also in your little scenario who do you think is scum B and who do you think is scum A??? I have replaced the letters with who I think you suspect and have come up with nothing

 You seem to be determined to lynch Elegy/Jetsquirrel based only on the fact that they were agressive (a point which is moot now as Jet will play both townie and scum differently.) Are you still willing to suspect him?

Sorry for all the questions but I really do need an answer to them all.

All of them should be answered in my most recent post to Azure.
To avoid redundancy, could you read it and tell me if, it there are any questions left unanswered?