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[Jetsquirrel]

I can trust my gut. And I think you're too defensive. You should use more time to hunt scum, and prove yourself town that way, rather than claiming I have no evidence.

This, just THIS. Gut feeling arguments ARE the lowest possible argument that can be made in mafia games, this also indicates you want to attack the player without anything at all. But since you all cracked Ottofar, and got 3 votes on him i don't see any reason that my 4rth vote remains on him. Except ofcourse his mindless assault on Elegy ( now me)Unvote Ottofar

Jetsquirrel: What do you think of the situation? Do you find anyone suspicious?

The situation seems rather.... normal in begginer mafia games.

Jetsquirrel:  How do you intend to play differently than Elegy?  How well would you say he played, on a scale of 1-10?  Why?

Ehhhh..... dunno? I'd say 7. He seemed to defend himself properly but didn't attack anyone ( i think)

Yeah, I'm for extending the day too.
Jetsquirrel, will you maintain the vote Elegy has cast on Ottofar? Feel free to answer after you've taken time to familiarize yourself with the thread.
Also, do you consider your position unstable because of Elegy's actions, or do you think that there weren't any scumtells from him?

No, see first answer. I think that i'm in a normal position, i didn't notice any scumtells except that he was pretty passive (That means defensive> right?)

[Jetsquirrel]

Oops forgt to write some more stuff

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The situation seems rather.... normal in begginer mafia games.
But i noticed Flint lurked quite much in the beggining of the game and jumped out when somebody asked him something, After answering he walked off and repeated the thing. The lurking stops i think at page 14 or 13 i think.

But i can't say much more il jsut wait for day 2 IF i dont get night killed.
Oh, and for the coming night kill i guess that Azure will get Nked, as they may find him a treat to the upcoming days.

[KaminaSquirtle]

I can trust my gut. And I think you're too defensive. You should use more time to hunt scum, and prove yourself town that way, rather than claiming I have no evidence.

This, just THIS. Gut feeling arguments ARE the lowest possible argument that can be made in mafia games, this also indicates you want to attack the player without anything at all. But since you all cracked Ottofar, and got 3 votes on him i don't see any reason that my 4rth vote remains on him. Except ofcourse his mindless assault on Elegy ( now me)Unvote Ottofar

Why did you take away your vote if you aren't going to use it anywhere else?  Isn't his mindless attack on you good enough evidence to vote him?
Trying to fix a bussing attempt?

Jetsquirrel:  How do you intend to play differently than Elegy?  How well would you say he played, on a scale of 1-10?  Why?

Ehhhh..... dunno? I'd say 7. He seemed to defend himself properly but didn't attack anyone ( i think)

7, eh?  Sounds like you're trying to stay neutral as possible, as to not reveal anything important.  What do you mean he didn't attack anyone?
Do you mean he didn't contribute meaningfully?  Because he sure lashed out a lot.

I dunno, these answers seem evasive to me.  The combination of yours and Elegy's unhelpful questions and answers looks scummy to me.  I could see Otto and Elegy trying to evade suspicion by attacking each other, hoping the survivor is freed from suspicion.  And now you see how that may make you look suspicious, and decide to unvote as to alleviate that suspicion.

Oops forgt to write some more stuff

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The situation seems rather.... normal in begginer mafia games.
But i noticed Flint lurked quite much in the beggining of the game and jumped out when somebody asked him something, After answering he walked off and repeated the thing. The lurking stops i think at page 14 or 13 i think.

But i can't say much more il jsut wait for day 2 IF i dont get night killed.
Oh, and for the coming night kill i guess that Azure will get Nked, as they may find him a treat to the upcoming days.

I don't think azure will get nked to be honest.  He seems too likely a target.  It would mean that he was on to something more than just Ottofar being scum.  I think they'll kill someone whose suspicions are entirely off, as to throw us off the scent.
Or that could be my inexperience showing.

[Spade]

This, just THIS. Gut feeling arguments ARE the lowest possible argument that can be made in mafia games, this also indicates you want to attack the player without anything at all. But since you all cracked Ottofar, and got 3 votes on him i don't see any reason that my 4rth vote remains on him. Except ofcourse his mindless assault on Elegy ( now me)Unvote Ottofar

If the vote doesn't mean anything, why take it off? Is there a reason for you to take it off? You mention a reason for keeping it on, but you just unvote.

I don't think azure will get nked to be honest.  He seems too likely a target.  It would mean that he was on to something more than just Ottofar being scum.  I think they'll kill someone whose suspicions are entirely off, as to throw us off the scent.
Or that could be my inexperience showing.

I feel like there's some WIFOM coming from that.

[Mindmaker]

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The situation seems rather.... normal in begginer mafia games.
But i noticed Flint lurked quite much in the beggining of the game and jumped out when somebody asked him something, After answering he walked off and repeated the thing. The lurking stops i think at page 14 or 13 i think.

I noticed the same. And his answers weren't always satisfactory.
Ragnarok has posted even less and not enough to read anything out of it.
However I'm not experience enough, to judge if this is about him being new to the game or maybe something more.

Ottofar/Azure, what do you, as more experienced players, think of them?
And how do you smoke such players out of "hiding"?

[Mindmaker]

I dunno, these answers seem evasive to me.  The combination of yours and Elegy's unhelpful questions and answers looks scummy to me.  I could see Otto and Elegy trying to evade suspicion by attacking each other, hoping the survivor is freed from suspicion.  And now you see how that may make you look suspicious, and decide to unvote as to alleviate that suspicion.

Could be.
Or maybe Elegys all-out, screw-you-guys-playstyle doesn't suit him.

[KaminaSquirtle]

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The situation seems rather.... normal in begginer mafia games.
But i noticed Flint lurked quite much in the beggining of the game and jumped out when somebody asked him something, After answering he walked off and repeated the thing. The lurking stops i think at page 14 or 13 i think.

I noticed the same. And his answers weren't always satisfactory.
Ragnarok has posted even less and not enough to read anything out of it.
However I'm not experience enough, to judge if this is about him being new to the game or maybe something more.

To me, ragnarok looks like a new townie, who doesn't know what to do.  Flintus...I don't know.  He did only stop lurking when Ottofar's lynching was pretty much assured.  Could be suspicious.

I dunno, these answers seem evasive to me.  The combination of yours and Elegy's unhelpful questions and answers looks scummy to me.  I could see Otto and Elegy trying to evade suspicion by attacking each other, hoping the survivor is freed from suspicion.  And now you see how that may make you look suspicious, and decide to unvote as to alleviate that suspicion.

Could be.
Or maybe Elegys all-out, screw-you-guys-playstyle doesn't suit him.

Maybe.  I just wanted to point out as many possibilities as possible, the more things we consider, the less chance of overlooking something essential.  I may get nked, and don't want to go out not having said something important.

I don't think azure will get nked to be honest.  He seems too likely a target.  It would mean that he was on to something more than just Ottofar being scum.  I think they'll kill someone whose suspicions are entirely off, as to throw us off the scent.
Or that could be my inexperience showing.

I feel like there's some WIFOM coming from that.

I didn't really intend it, but yeah, now that I look at it, it has layers and LAYERS of WIFOM.
It confuses the scum, though.
As does mentioning that.
And that.  Etc.

[Jetsquirrel]

I can trust my gut. And I think you're too defensive. You should use more time to hunt scum, and prove yourself town that way, rather than claiming I have no evidence.

This, just THIS. Gut feeling arguments ARE the lowest possible argument that can be made in mafia games, this also indicates you want to attack the player without anything at all. But since you all cracked Ottofar, and got 3 votes on him i don't see any reason that my 4rth vote remains on him. Except ofcourse his mindless assault on Elegy ( now me)Unvote Ottofar

Why did you take away your vote if you aren't going to use it anywhere else?  Isn't his mindless attack on you good enough evidence to vote him?
Trying to fix a bussing attempt?
DO i need to use it? That mindless attack was actually going for Elegy, its evidence that i find.... lacking. I can vote for him but will it matter now atm?

Jetsquirrel:  How do you intend to play differently than Elegy?  How well would you say he played, on a scale of 1-10?  Why?

Ehhhh..... dunno? I'd say 7. He seemed to defend himself properly but didn't attack anyone ( i think)

7, eh?  Sounds like you're trying to stay neutral as possible, as to not reveal anything important.  What do you mean he didn't attack anyone?
Do you mean he didn't contribute meaningfully?  Because he sure lashed out a lot.

I dunno, these answers seem evasive to me.  The combination of yours and Elegy's unhelpful questions and answers looks scummy to me.  I could see Otto and Elegy trying to evade suspicion by attacking each other, hoping the survivor is freed from suspicion.  And now you see how that may make you look suspicious, and decide to unvote as to alleviate that suspicion.
Interesting theory, but alas i dont have enough experience yet to pull of a bussing attempt succefully and Elegy got replaced remember? I may have other plans and Ottofar doesn't seem to be a Real threat expect a broken near-death townie. I can focus my energy to find some real scum.

Oops forgt to write some more stuff

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The situation seems rather.... normal in begginer mafia games.
But i noticed Flint lurked quite much in the beggining of the game and jumped out when somebody asked him something, After answering he walked off and repeated the thing. The lurking stops i think at page 14 or 13 i think.

But i can't say much more il jsut wait for day 2 IF i dont get night killed.
Oh, and for the coming night kill i guess that Azure will get Nked, as they may find him a treat to the upcoming days.

I don't think azure will get nked to be honest.  He seems too likely a target.  It would mean that he was on to something more than just Ottofar being scum.  I think they'll kill someone whose suspicions are entirely off, as to throw us off the scent.
Or that could be my inexperience showing.

I only guessed, as azure is a good player and could easly find scum. That's why the scum may want him dead, but like i said its only a GUESS

This, just THIS. Gut feeling arguments ARE the lowest possible argument that can be made in mafia games, this also indicates you want to attack the player without anything at all. But since you all cracked Ottofar, and got 3 votes on him i don't see any reason that my 4rth vote remains on him. Except ofcourse his mindless assault on Elegy ( now me)Unvote Ottofar

If the vote doesn't mean anything, why take it off? Is there a reason for you to take it off? You mention a reason for keeping it on, but you just unvote.
But would there be any difference if i would keep the vote on him?The answer is no, we cracked him. He ain't got anything more to say and or defend himself properly. Yes i could keep that vote but would it matter?But with 1 vote less he maybe feel less pressurized to actually do something usefull.

I don't think azure will get nked to be honest.  He seems too likely a target.  It would mean that he was on to something more than just Ottofar being scum.  I think they'll kill someone whose suspicions are entirely off, as to throw us off the scent.
Or that could be my inexperience showing.

I feel like there's some WIFOM coming from that.

I red the mafia wiki about the WIFOM and i still dont understan what it means. I know its WINE IN FRONT OF ME, but i don't know the rest ya know?

[Jetsquirrel]

okay hmmm the bold text may he hard to read, so il switch up the way i write next time.

[Flintus10]

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The situation seems rather.... normal in begginer mafia games.
But i noticed Flint lurked quite much in the beggining of the game and jumped out when somebody asked him something, After answering he walked off and repeated the thing. The lurking stops i think at page 14 or 13 i think.

Well I did explicitly state I would be away twice and most of you post while i sleep but w/e

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The situation seems rather.... normal in begginer mafia games.
But i noticed Flint lurked quite much in the beggining of the game and jumped out when somebody asked him something, After answering he walked off and repeated the thing. The lurking stops i think at page 14 or 13 i think.

I noticed the same. And his answers weren't always satisfactory.

You say so much without giving any reasoning, WHAT questions didn't you like my answers to and WHY didn't you like them. Also you have actually started to post alot more content ever since Ottofar was a certainty to be lynched and I am half suspicious that may be because a scum IC may be feeding you your information. Though I haven't seen you play before so this could just be your style

[Spade]

WIFOM is like trying to confuse.

Spoiler: example (click to show/hide)

Say the town is lynching Player A, because of a cop claim. Before player A dies, he says ''Good luck player B!''
After player A turns up maf, the town has no idea whether player A was telling the truth or trying to get a townie lynched.

Understand now?

[Azure Sepulchre]

You're both correct and incorrect, Spade; WIFOM isn't necessarily intended to confuse, but is a never-ending logical line of reasoning with no clear solution. Your example illustrates this, (by having the town unendingly debate whether player B really is scum or not) but your definition was off a bit. I hope this makes things clearer.

I'd like to post actual content, but I have a maths test on Friday and I need to brush up on my matrices terminology. I'm just dropping by to keep track of the game, but I'll probably have something up later tonight if I'm still awake.

[Jetsquirrel]

The situation seems rather.... normal in begginer mafia games.
But i noticed Flint lurked quite much in the beggining of the game and jumped out when somebody asked him something, After answering he walked off and repeated the thing. The lurking stops i think at page 14 or 13 i think.

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I noticed the same. And his answers weren't always satisfactory.[/quote]

You say so much without giving any reasoning, WHAT questions didn't you like my answers to and WHY didn't you like them. Also you have actually started to post alot more content ever since Ottofar was a certainty to be lynched and I am half suspicious that may be because a scum IC may be feeding you your information. Though I haven't seen you play before so this could just be your style
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I never said anything about your questions jsut the pattern you were following so...
Flintus Why getting angry/jumpy now?

[Flintus10]

...Uh Jet you realise I was answering Mindmaker with that second quote right?

[Jetsquirrel]

oh, sry then