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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #128445 on: November 06, 2017, 11:34:09 am »

Life as we know it wouldn’t happen without Satan though.
If you are referring to the biblical genesis, the serpent is never linked to Satan in the book. Serpent = Satan is a later thing.
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« Reply #128446 on: November 06, 2017, 11:35:53 am »

Sure it would. Satan is a mythological creature, ergo it already does. Even if one is Christian, Satan's existence is somewhat shaky. Not to mention theologically problematic.

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« Reply #128447 on: November 06, 2017, 11:36:56 am »

Life as we know it wouldn’t happen without Satan though.
If you are referring to the biblical genesis, the serpent is never linked to Satan in the book. Serpent = Satan is a later thing.
Well... everything in the bible is a later thing to be perfectly honest. Written by folks after the fact, and then interpreted from Latin upwards of a thousand years later.
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« Reply #128448 on: November 06, 2017, 11:39:03 am »

Life as we know it wouldn’t happen without Satan though.
If you are referring to the biblical genesis, the serpent is never linked to Satan in the book. Serpent = Satan is a later thing.
Well... everything in the bible is a later thing to be perfectly honest. Written by folks after the fact, and then interpreted from Latin upwards of a thousand years later.
What I meant was that the Serpent is never linked to Satan in the Bible itself.
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« Reply #128449 on: November 06, 2017, 11:48:24 am »

Life as we know it wouldn’t happen without Satan though.
If you are referring to the biblical genesis, the serpent is never linked to Satan in the book. Serpent = Satan is a later thing.
Well... everything in the bible is a later thing to be perfectly honest. Written by folks after the fact, and then interpreted from Latin upwards of a thousand years later.

I believe we should stop hectoring the poor fella :P
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« Reply #128450 on: November 06, 2017, 11:56:04 am »

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« Reply #128451 on: November 06, 2017, 11:58:31 am »

Life as we know it wouldn’t happen without Satan though.

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« Reply #128452 on: November 06, 2017, 12:13:28 pm »

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« Reply #128453 on: November 06, 2017, 12:19:59 pm »

Life as we know it wouldn’t happen without Satan though.
If you are referring to the biblical genesis, the serpent is never linked to Satan in the book. Serpent = Satan is a later thing.

I feel like Satan = Tempter is the bigger correlation at play here.
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« Reply #128454 on: November 06, 2017, 01:17:37 pm »

Well... everything in the bible is a later thing to be perfectly honest. Written by folks after the fact, and then interpreted from Latin upwards of a thousand years later.
Umm... you can argue about how literal, figurative, or allegorical the Bible is, but basically nobody today uses a translation of the Bible reinterpreted from the Latin.  Everything is translated directly from the early Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic manuscripts.

Heck, it's 2017 and we just had the 500th anniversary of the Reformation - a fair part of which was reforming the translation of the Bible.
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« Reply #128455 on: November 06, 2017, 01:20:17 pm »

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« Reply #128456 on: November 06, 2017, 02:55:45 pm »

Well... everything in the bible is a later thing to be perfectly honest. Written by folks after the fact, and then interpreted from Latin upwards of a thousand years later.
Umm... you can argue about how literal, figurative, or allegorical the Bible is, but basically nobody today uses a translation of the Bible reinterpreted from the Latin.  Everything is translated directly from the early Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic manuscripts.

Heck, it's 2017 and we just had the 500th anniversary of the Reformation - a fair part of which was reforming the translation of the Bible.
Although it could be argued that the folk/low-level bishop understanding of Christianity was defined at by the latin bible prior to the birth of Protestantism.  In the same way that the American on the street forms religious arguments around specific passages of the English bible despite that bible being translated to preserve meaning from latin, by translators who weren't necessarily aware which meanings would be considered relevant all these years later.
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« Reply #128457 on: November 06, 2017, 03:05:02 pm »

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So here's a stupid question only partially related to the current conversation from someone who does not remember any of their preschool bible lessons.  In a lot of art like that I see satan with a crown but I never see it ON his head, it's always hovering above his head, or on his horns instead.  Is there some significance to that?
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« Reply #128458 on: November 06, 2017, 03:14:15 pm »

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So here's a stupid question only partially related to the current conversation from someone who does not remember any of their preschool bible lessons.  In a lot of art like that I see satan with a crown but I never see it ON his head, it's always hovering above his head, or on his horns instead.  Is there some significance to that?
Maybe it's like a halo?
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« Reply #128459 on: November 06, 2017, 03:23:32 pm »

BIG POST TIME - For my on-topic WTF, some guy called my call center and screamed to the point where he was disconnected from multiple people for the offensive things he said. I don't mean to be snide or judgy but I have a hard time empathizing with people who just lose control emotionally like that. Like I can get really upset too, but I don't try to hurt people.

Well... everything in the bible is a later thing to be perfectly honest. Written by folks after the fact, and then interpreted from Latin upwards of a thousand years later.
Umm... you can argue about how literal, figurative, or allegorical the Bible is, but basically nobody today uses a translation of the Bible reinterpreted from the Latin.  Everything is translated directly from the early Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic manuscripts.

Heck, it's 2017 and we just had the 500th anniversary of the Reformation - a fair part of which was reforming the translation of the Bible.
Although it could be argued that the folk/low-level bishop understanding of Christianity was defined at by the latin bible prior to the birth of Protestantism.  In the same way that the American on the street forms religious arguments around specific passages of the English bible despite that bible being translated to preserve meaning from latin, by translators who weren't necessarily aware which meanings would be considered relevant all these years later.

Ah, but no indeed that is not the sole source. It can be cross-referenced with translations that were made directly from Hebrew translations into Greek. This bypasses the problems with direct translation from a dead language, and provides a way to detect and properly translate (or at least explain) things like cultural idioms. This also neatly bypasses the incredibly corrupt (at the time) Catholic church as the sole source of translation/interpretation, since they did not make these translations.

Current accepted translations of the Christian Bible are the result of this process. Others have absolutely tried to retranslate/reinterpret the Bible outside of these methods and resources but are generally soundly panned (The "New Age" translation comes to mind).

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So here's a stupid question only partially related to the current conversation from someone who does not remember any of their preschool bible lessons.  In a lot of art like that I see satan with a crown but I never see it ON his head, it's always hovering above his head, or on his horns instead.  Is there some significance to that?
Maybe it's like a halo?

No idea, actually :>.

I expect that if it is a symbolic thing then it came from the old Catholic depictions of everything, since they took liberal "artistic interpretation" of everything from angels to Satan. Bible never says he's a red guy with hooves, or state that angels are remotely human in appearance (it routinely shows them to be outright terrifying). In fact I recall that the Bible says that Satan retains his angelic appearance.
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