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[Tack]

Edit: much as it physically arouses me to share my opinions on things, in hindsight this is seeming like the perfect place to -snip the sex and sexuality conversation before things go smeeprocket.

Let the waifus flow.

guise i gave up my opinom for dis.
Moove tredd.

[Shadowlord]

I've been considering erasing my posts on the subject, but that's something I'm loath to do (it bugs me when people go back and do that, making it impossible to understand a conversation). Though I'm wondering if we've been breaking the guidelines by talking about this at all.

[TheBiggerFish]

Not really, I don't think.

[Rolan7]

It's something safest not to bring up, it's caused a lot of serious flamewars here over the last 3 years particularly.  Often spilling out of the containment threads.

So, in wtf...  I have a cold so it's hard to understand me, and I'm not thinking great, so when I went to Bojangles I accidentally got 6 blueberry biscuits instead of pieces of chicken

The clerk was muttering too I think but still

Also the power went out across a quarter of the city for like an hour, but it's all better now.  Haven't heard why it happened yet.  Sat around outside for a while, actually felt nice (it stopped raining yesterday).

[Bohandas]

Honestly, why not redefine gender to mean personal identity? Like, we had two words for the same thing (because people thought outward appearance, genitals, and internal identity were all synonymous) and then, when that was shown to be incorrect, we kept one of those words to keep meaning biological (as in, chromosomal) matters, and the other to mean the personal identity and outward appearance.

Because it already means something else. Why not get a new word?

That's like saying that since "crimson" and "scarlet" both mean "red" we should change one of them to mean whatever the progressive topic of the week is.

I've been considering erasing my posts on the subject, but that's something I'm loath to do (it bugs me when people go back and do that, making it impossible to understand a conversation). Though I'm wondering if we've been breaking the guidelines by talking about this at all.

This is part of the reason why I compulsively back up threads to my computer now.

[Shadowlord]

I just finished replacing them with song quotes, too. Not that I can erase where you quoted me or anything.

[Descan]

Honestly, why not redefine gender to mean personal identity? Like, we had two words for the same thing (because people thought outward appearance, genitals, and internal identity were all synonymous) and then, when that was shown to be incorrect, we kept one of those words to keep meaning biological (as in, chromosomal) matters, and the other to mean the personal identity and outward appearance.

Because it already means something else. Why not get a new word?

That's like saying that since "crimson" and "scarlet" both mean "red" we should change one of them to mean whatever the progressive topic of the week is.

No, it's more like if crimson and scarlet both meant the exact same shade of red, and there was another shade of red that didn't have a name yet, so crimson was attached to that shade instead of the scarlet shade.

As for why not use a new word: Why make up a new word when there's a perfectly serviceable word right there?

People mock "SJWs" for using pronouns like Xe or Hir instead of They, then when they DO use They, they get mocked because "They isn't singular!" They're either mocked for using an old word "improperly" or making up a new word. Same thing here, if they did come up with a new word (where would you even start for that?) for gender, then they'd get mocked for using "fake words."

This is all assuming you're correct that using gender and sex differently is new, which I went along with because even if you were right about that, your conclusions are wrong. But I don't actually think that drawing such a distinction IS new.

[Rolan7]

And, I keep forgetting actually, but it's not like singular they is new.

[Akura]

A coworker complained to me that she had requested a day off a month in advance, reminded the manager two weeks before, finds out that she was scheduled the day she requested off, and then gets chewed out by the same manager for not reminding him about her day off. Then the morning meeting started with him telling everyone about how we need to keep track of our requests off ourselves. Then the store manager starts, saying that one of the things we had mentioned in an employee survey was accountability, so that we could be sure "the guy next to us" wasn't slacking off if we were working hard. Then he claims this is being done by saying he fired the manager-trainee for poor attendance when his attendance wasn't that bad.

So, there's a bit of blatant incompetence followed by blame-shifting, followed again by taking care of an issue by scapegoating someone else unrelated to the issue. Oh, and I also learned that for store employees in the company worldwide(300-something stores in the US, Canada, including four stores in Australia), we have an employee turnover rate of 104%. For reference, a turnover rate of 30% is considered problematic.

[Aklyon]

Its either they or it for singular, and people complain more about it than they complain about they.

[Levi]

104% turnover per year?!?!    Dear god.

[TD1]

They wouldn't get mocked, necessarily. The use of a new word forcibly introduced by a minority into a language is never high.

[Descan]

All of which reinforces my main point of "it wouldn't work."

[TD1]

Yep.

If you get the majority of people to distance themselves from their gender, then a significant change in the use of pronouns will be seen.

As it stands, there isn't any desire to do so really.

[Rolan7]

I guess it comes in stages.
Asking to be referred to as "they" online is easy.
Asking my friends to do it, eh, I could but... maybe tomorrow.  There's family overlap.
Asking my boss to do it, then we'll have won.

Because if my boss does it, I really don't give a shit whether recessives won't.