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[hops]

The sun is a hole that was made when Magnus left to Aetherius and is the source of magi-

Oh wait wrong universe

[smjjames]

Would taking a journey around the globe convince such people? Make sure they go directly west (or east) as much as possible.

Inconclusive. You could achieve the same circumnavigation on the inside of a sphere.

It was only after I had posted that I realized you weren't talking about flat earth believers.

How do they explain the movement of the sun in the sky then? If we were inside a Dyson sphere (which might be where they got the idea?) the sun wouldn't move at all.

No, the sun is a portal to heaven (hence the light) that moves slightly around the centre of the universe which is where heaven is.

It would still never set, or rise. Also, unless there was something blocking the sun, there wouldn't be any night either.

[Graknorke]

It would still never set, or rise.

The light bends towards heaven which is why it appears to set and rise. He explains his world in the videos that I linked. Quite interesting to watch actually. Relaxing too.

[smjjames]

It would still never set, or rise.

The light bends towards heaven which is why it appears to set and rise. He explains his world in the videos that I linked. Quite interesting to watch actually. Relaxing too.

He has an answer for freaking everything doesn't he? I think we need to throw a mathematician at him. Then again, he seems like the kind of person who wouldn't change their mind even if we sent him up to space and shattered his logic.

Given the detail he went through, I think he might find worldbuilding fun.

[hops]

The thing about science is that we don't just set up arbitrary answers and then find evidence for it (okay, we have hypothesises but it is generally a good idea not to worry too much about them)

We just do not know how the universe works.

So really, this guy might be right for all we know, but since we have other, more saner explanations, Occam's Razor prevail here and he'll continue to be wrong until there is definitive evidence.

[Graknorke]

But we are capable of making observations that do not match what he says. For example, go 100 km up and there is no glass ceiling. Otherwise spacecraft would have a hard time.

[hops]

In that case, he's completely wrong and is just stupid.

[smjjames]

Also, what's a megacryometeor? A comet?

But we are capable of making observations that do not match what he says. For example, go 100 km up and there is no glass ceiling. Otherwise spacecraft would have a hard time.

There's also the upward curving surface of the inner sphere, at earths diameter and even if there were something blocking at 100km up, we would be seeing something.

[Graknorke]

But we are capable of making observations that do not match what he says. For example, go 100 km up and there is no glass ceiling. Otherwise spacecraft would have a hard time.

There's also the upward curving surface of the inner sphere, at earths diameter and even if there were something blocking at 100km up, we would be seeing something.

Apparently light naturally bends up, and one of his partners in conspiracy-theorism proved it by taking a picture of New York with an IR camera and it appeared to be higher up than with regular light. Or something like that.

[smjjames]

I say we send him into space far enough to see the whole disc of the earth, that ought to shatter his logic, but then again, conspiracy theorists tend to make their own logic if it gets debunked.

Then there's Occam's razor.....

[ArchAIngel]

Send him into space sounds good. Just leave out the suit. *Does not like people like that*

[GiglameshDespair]

Sod that. If I cvould send a guy into space, I'm not wasting it on some dumbass. I'd go me bloody self.

I really, really want to go into space. Not any of this bullshit almost-space, either. Proper space.

[Sirus]

Sod that. If I cvould send a guy into space, I'm not wasting it on some dumbass. I'd go me bloody self.

I really, really want to go into space. Not any of this bullshit almost-space, either. Proper space.

Hear hear! Why waste time and resources sending someone who will never be convinced when folks like you and me genuinely want to go?

[SealyStar]

Today...I discovered Wizardchan.

that site is a sad joke

and no it's not a sad joke because of what it's supposed to be, it's a sad joke because of the dissonance between that and what it actually is

i've been there when it actually was decent (haha, decent chans) and honestly, it should have died with the old admin

I mostly like the story of how it got its name.

[hops]

Today...I discovered Wizardchan.

0/10 need more real wizards