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Robsoie · « **Reply #570 on:** August 06, 2010, 06:38:06 pm »

My Vampire Summoner is a follower of Jiyva since a while (hilarious to try to race all those jellies to catch items before they do lol)

I am in front of Lair, but i don't know if my character is ready for this.
Here is my dump :

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Summon Imp so far has served me extremely well, helping me survive some impossible odds.
The Jellies have indirectly helped, splashing acid on all the pests that were in their way.

Should i take Summon Canine , though i am not sure a canine is any better than the imps i can get, as i don't have yet found any selective memory spell, it could be a complete waste.
Should i take Summon Scorpions or Summon Ice Beasts ?
I have some reserves on these spells, as they are mixed summon/ice and summon/poison, while i am only skilled in summon.
From what i read it seems that it could lead into many scorpions or ice beasts summoned hostile, something i definitively don't want as my character is not really capable to deal with anything.

Or should i get an offensive spell from the earth book i have, and begin to train it a lot ?

Pseudonym · « **Reply #571 on:** August 06, 2010, 06:43:12 pm »

Quote from: Robsoie on August 06, 2010, 06:38:06 pm

My Vampire Summoner is a follower of Jiyva since a while (hilarious to try to race all those jellies to catch items before they do lol)

I am in front of Lair, but i don't know if my character is ready for this.
Here is my dump :
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.7.1-17-ge9b0c31 character file.

Robsoie the Summoner (VpSu) Turns: 11605, Time: 00:56:31

HP 53/53 AC 5 Str 9 Exp: 9/3678 (60), need: 2186
MP 18/19 EV 14 Int 17 God: Jiyva [*****.]
Gold 567 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 2 memorised, 13 levels left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + g - +2,+4 dwarf dagger
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . a - +0 robe
Life Prot.: + + . Conserve : + (no shield)
Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : + (no helmet)
Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . (no cloak)
Spirit.Shd: . Stasis : . t - +0 pair of gauntlets
Sust.Abil.: . . Rnd.Telep. : . (no boots)
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . n - small golden amulet {tried}
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . o - +2 ring of protection
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . c - ring of life protection

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: fangs 3, see invisible
a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Request Jelly, Slimify, Cure Bad
Mutation, Renounce Religion

You are on level 10 of the Dungeon.
You worship Jiyva.
Jiyva is extremely pleased with you.
You are not thirsty.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 11 of its levels.

You have collected 547 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
g - a +2,+4 dwarven dagger (weapon)
Armour
a - a +0 robe (worn)
t - a +0 pair of gauntlets (worn)
Magical devices
v - a wand of fire {zapped: 1}
z - a bronze wand
Scrolls
q - a scroll labeled EXOBLUI STIMI
r - a scroll labeled MEHAEN XIBLIR {tried on item}
s - a scroll labeled GAWOIPOPLU {tried}
u - a scroll of detect curse
y - 2 scrolls labeled FIEKHI MIEHUO
Jewellery
c - a ring of life protection (left hand)
n - a small golden amulet (around neck) {tried}
o - a +2 ring of protection (right hand)
x - a runed copper ring
Potions
d - a potion of levitation
e - 4 oily inky potions
f - 3 cyan potions
h - an oily brown potion
i - a viscous green potion
j - 2 inky potions
k - 4 murky white potions
l - 3 pink potions
m - 4 purple potions
Books
b - a book of Callings
Spells Type Level
*Summon Small Mammals Summoning 1
Sticks to Snakes Transmutation/Summoning 2
*Call Imp Summoning 2
Call Canine Familiar Summoning 3
Summon Scorpions Summoning/Poison 4
Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summoning 5

w - a book of Geomancy
Spells Type Level
Sandblast Transmutation/Earth 1
Stoneskin Transmutation/Earth 2
Passwall Transmutation/Earth 3
Stone Arrow Conjuration/Earth 3
Summon Elemental Summoning 4
Lee's Rapid Deconstruction Transmutation/Earth 5

Magical staves
p - a staff of enchantment

You have 60 experience left.

Skills:
+ Level 4 Short Blades
+ Level 4 Dodging
+ Level 5 Stealth
+ Level 2 Stabbing
+ Level 1 Traps & Doors
+ Level 2 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 4 Spellcasting
+ Level 11 Summonings

You have 13 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Success Level
a - Summon Small Mammals Summ ##### Excellent 1
b - Call Imp Summ ######.... Excellent 2

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:7
Lair (0/8) D:10

Altars:
Zin
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4: +==*

Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can bottle blood from corpses.
You have razor-sharp teeth.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.

Press '!' to toggle between mutations and properties depending on your
hunger status.

Message History

Jiyva appreciates your sacrifice.
You hear a distant slurping noise.
You swap places.
You swap places.
There is an open door here.
You see here 19 dwarven darts.
You swap places.

#.# #5#....#
#.######.#.####
.........#.#
############
### ###
##.#######.###
>...#..##....###
##..##z...#....#
#...5Z@.#.....#
##.#..55........
###..Z#......(..
(..###.#.....###
.#5# ####..####.
...# #Z### ##
#### ###

You can see a friendly centaur zombie, a friendly crocodile zombie, a friendly imp, friendly 2 shadow imps and a friendly giant gecko zombie.

Vanquished Creatures
A hippogriff (D:9)
An ogre (D:10)
An ice beast (D:5)
Sigmund (D:4)
An imp (D:10)
A hound skeleton (D:7)
2 orc wizards
A giant ant (D:6)
A jelly (D:6)
6 snakes
2 giant mites (D:4)
2 giant geckos
2 oozes
8 giant bats
12 goblins
5 hobgoblins
5 jackals
4 orcs
2 quokkas
2 giant cockroaches
A giant gecko skeleton (D:4)
A giant newt (D:5)
9 kobolds
9 rats
3 toadstools
83 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
The ghost of klamech the Ruinous, an experienced DDCj of Okawaru (D:9)
Pikel (D:
A komodo dragon (D:10)
A giant toad (D:9)
3 centaurs
A hippogriff (D:10)
A manticore (D:10)
A mottled dragon (D:10)
An orc warrior (D:7)
2 slaves (D:
An ice beast (D:10)
6 ogres
3 crocodiles (D:10)
A giant frog (D:6)
A killer bee zombie (D:9)
A wight (D:
A gila monster skeleton (D:10)
An imp (D:5)
2 orc priests
2 hounds
8 scorpions
A hound skeleton (D:5)
An iguana (D:10)
An orc wizard (D:
3 giant ants
3 jellies (D:6)
5 snakes
A giant mite (D:4)
2 giant geckos
3 giant bats
A giant cockroach (D:1)
9 hobgoblins
3 jackals (D:5)
10 kobolds
20 orcs
3 giant newts
4 goblins
An orc zombie (D:7)
2 rats
113 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
A giant blowfly zombie (D:10)
A hippogriff (D:
A necrophage (D:10)
3 orc warriors
An ogre (D:10)
2 phantoms
A hippogriff skeleton (D:9)
3 centaurs
A giant frog (D:7)
3 killer bees (D:10)
57 imps
2 orc priests
A hound (D:
4 iguanas
A giant ant (D:7)
A hound skeleton (D:
A mottled dragon skeleton (D:10)
6 iron imps
5 orc wizards
A worm zombie (D:7)
46 jellies
3 gnolls (D:
5 snakes
A scorpion zombie (D:7)
15 shadow imps
35 white imps
2 iguana skeletons
2 giant eyeballs
2 grey rats
A giant mite zombie (D:7)
A goblin (D:
4 hobgoblins
A jackal (D:
11 orcs
3 quokkas
7 giant bats
2 giant cockroaches (D:7)
A hobgoblin skeleton (D:10)
2 kobolds (D:
An orc skeleton (D:10)
5 orc zombies
7 rats
6 fungi
4 toadstools
263 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 459 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | Robsoie, the Vampire Summoner, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 4/4
1373 | D:2 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/14 MP: 1/5
1451 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 8/20 MP: 6/6
1567 | D:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
1597 | D:2 | Reached skill 5 in Summonings
2250 | D:3 | Reached skill 1 in Stabbing
3041 | D:4 | Found Zuymnas' Jewellery Emporium.
3044 | D:4 | Noticed Sigmund
3131 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
3181 | D:4 | Defeated Sigmund
3181 | D:4 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 25/25 MP: 2/8
3350 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 31/31 MP: 3/9
3422 | D:4 | Found Ameleim's General Store.
3490 | D:4 | Reached skill 6 in Summonings
3561 | D:4 | Found Ymellin's Jewellery Shoppe.
3677 | D:4 | Reached skill 1 in Short Blades
4053 | D:4 | Reached skill 7 in Summonings
4222 | D:4 | Found Zasyzy's Book Shop.
4728 | D:5 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 31/36 MP: 9/12
5142 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
5657 | D:6 | Reached skill 8 in Summonings
5863 | D:6 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 29/42 MP: 11/13
5887 | D:6 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
5923 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Jiyva Jaco the Shapeless
6055 | D:6 | Reached skill 9 in Summonings
6056 | D:6 | Acquired Jiyva's first power
7705 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
7765 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
7773 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
8280 | D:8 | Acquired Jiyva's second power
8294 | D:8 | Reached skill 5 in Stealth
8314 | D:8 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 44/47 MP: 8/17
8335 | D:8 | Noticed Pikel
8356 | D:8 | Defeated Pikel
8929 | D:9 | Reached skill 10 in Summonings
9474 | D:9 | Noticed klamech's ghost
9649 | D:9 | Defeated klamech's ghost
9854 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
9995 | D:10 | Reached skill 11 in Summonings
10196 | D:10 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 50/53 MP: 10/19
10225 | D:10 | Acquired Jiyva's third power
10583 | D:10 | Reached skill 1 in Traps & Doors
11569 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Lair.

Summon Imp so far has served me extremely well, helping me survive some impossible odds.
The Jellies have indirectly helped, splashing acid on all the pests that were in their way.

Should i take Summon Canine , though i am not sure a canine is any better than the imps i can get, as i don't have yet found any selective memory spell, it could be a complete waste.
Should i take Summon Scorpions or Summon Ice Beasts ?
I have some reserves on these spells, as they are mixed summon/ice and summon/poison, while i am only skilled in summon.
From what i read it seems that it could lead into many scorpions or ice beasts summoned hostile, something i definitively don't want as my character is not really capable to deal with anything.

Or should i get an offensive spell from the earth book i have, and begin to train it a lot ?

In my experience, summon canine is rarely useful. Sometimes you get a jackal, sometimes you get a war dog.

quinnr · « **Reply #572 on:** August 06, 2010, 06:45:53 pm »

I'm for the name 'elves' for the next team

thack · « **Reply #573 on:** August 06, 2010, 06:48:18 pm »

Quote from: Robsoie on August 06, 2010, 06:38:06 pm

My Vampire Summoner is a follower of Jiyva since a while (hilarious to try to race all those jellies to catch items before they do lol)

I am in front of Lair, but i don't know if my character is ready for this.
Here is my dump :
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.7.1-17-ge9b0c31 character file.

Robsoie the Summoner (VpSu) Turns: 11605, Time: 00:56:31

HP 53/53 AC 5 Str 9 Exp: 9/3678 (60), need: 2186
MP 18/19 EV 14 Int 17 God: Jiyva [*****.]
Gold 567 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 2 memorised, 13 levels left

Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + g - +2,+4 dwarf dagger
Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . a - +0 robe
Life Prot.: + + . Conserve : + (no shield)
Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : + (no helmet)
Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . (no cloak)
Spirit.Shd: . Stasis : . t - +0 pair of gauntlets
Sust.Abil.: . . Rnd.Telep. : . (no boots)
Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . n - small golden amulet {tried}
Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . o - +2 ring of protection
Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . c - ring of life protection

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: fangs 3, see invisible
a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Request Jelly, Slimify, Cure Bad
Mutation, Renounce Religion

You are on level 10 of the Dungeon.
You worship Jiyva.
Jiyva is extremely pleased with you.
You are not thirsty.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 11 of its levels.

You have collected 547 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
g - a +2,+4 dwarven dagger (weapon)
Armour
a - a +0 robe (worn)
t - a +0 pair of gauntlets (worn)
Magical devices
v - a wand of fire {zapped: 1}
z - a bronze wand
Scrolls
q - a scroll labeled EXOBLUI STIMI
r - a scroll labeled MEHAEN XIBLIR {tried on item}
s - a scroll labeled GAWOIPOPLU {tried}
u - a scroll of detect curse
y - 2 scrolls labeled FIEKHI MIEHUO
Jewellery
c - a ring of life protection (left hand)
n - a small golden amulet (around neck) {tried}
o - a +2 ring of protection (right hand)
x - a runed copper ring
Potions
d - a potion of levitation
e - 4 oily inky potions
f - 3 cyan potions
h - an oily brown potion
i - a viscous green potion
j - 2 inky potions
k - 4 murky white potions
l - 3 pink potions
m - 4 purple potions
Books
b - a book of Callings
Spells Type Level
*Summon Small Mammals Summoning 1
Sticks to Snakes Transmutation/Summoning 2
*Call Imp Summoning 2
Call Canine Familiar Summoning 3
Summon Scorpions Summoning/Poison 4
Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summoning 5

w - a book of Geomancy
Spells Type Level
Sandblast Transmutation/Earth 1
Stoneskin Transmutation/Earth 2
Passwall Transmutation/Earth 3
Stone Arrow Conjuration/Earth 3
Summon Elemental Summoning 4
Lee's Rapid Deconstruction Transmutation/Earth 5

Magical staves
p - a staff of enchantment

You have 60 experience left.

Skills:
+ Level 4 Short Blades
+ Level 4 Dodging
+ Level 5 Stealth
+ Level 2 Stabbing
+ Level 1 Traps & Doors
+ Level 2 Unarmed Combat
+ Level 4 Spellcasting
+ Level 11 Summonings

You have 13 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

Your Spells Type Power Success Level
a - Summon Small Mammals Summ ##### Excellent 1
b - Call Imp Summ ######.... Excellent 2

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:7
Lair (0/8) D:10

Altars:
Zin
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4: +==*

Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can bottle blood from corpses.
You have razor-sharp teeth.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.

Press '!' to toggle between mutations and properties depending on your
hunger status.

Message History

Jiyva appreciates your sacrifice.
You hear a distant slurping noise.
You swap places.
You swap places.
There is an open door here.
You see here 19 dwarven darts.
You swap places.

#.# #5#....#
#.######.#.####
.........#.#
############
### ###
##.#######.###
>...#..##....###
##..##z...#....#
#...5Z@.#.....#
##.#..55........
###..Z#......(..
(..###.#.....###
.#5# ####..####.
...# #Z### ##
#### ###

You can see a friendly centaur zombie, a friendly crocodile zombie, a friendly imp, friendly 2 shadow imps and a friendly giant gecko zombie.

Vanquished Creatures
A hippogriff (D:9)
An ogre (D:10)
An ice beast (D:5)
Sigmund (D:4)
An imp (D:10)
A hound skeleton (D:7)
2 orc wizards
A giant ant (D:6)
A jelly (D:6)
6 snakes
2 giant mites (D:4)
2 giant geckos
2 oozes
8 giant bats
12 goblins
5 hobgoblins
5 jackals
4 orcs
2 quokkas
2 giant cockroaches
A giant gecko skeleton (D:4)
A giant newt (D:5)
9 kobolds
9 rats
3 toadstools
83 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
The ghost of klamech the Ruinous, an experienced DDCj of Okawaru (D:9)
Pikel (D:
A komodo dragon (D:10)
A giant toad (D:9)
3 centaurs
A hippogriff (D:10)
A manticore (D:10)
A mottled dragon (D:10)
An orc warrior (D:7)
2 slaves (D:
An ice beast (D:10)
6 ogres
3 crocodiles (D:10)
A giant frog (D:6)
A killer bee zombie (D:9)
A wight (D:
A gila monster skeleton (D:10)
An imp (D:5)
2 orc priests
2 hounds
8 scorpions
A hound skeleton (D:5)
An iguana (D:10)
An orc wizard (D:
3 giant ants
3 jellies (D:6)
5 snakes
A giant mite (D:4)
2 giant geckos
3 giant bats
A giant cockroach (D:1)
9 hobgoblins
3 jackals (D:5)
10 kobolds
20 orcs
3 giant newts
4 goblins
An orc zombie (D:7)
2 rats
113 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
A giant blowfly zombie (D:10)
A hippogriff (D:
A necrophage (D:10)
3 orc warriors
An ogre (D:10)
2 phantoms
A hippogriff skeleton (D:9)
3 centaurs
A giant frog (D:7)
3 killer bees (D:10)
57 imps
2 orc priests
A hound (D:
4 iguanas
A giant ant (D:7)
A hound skeleton (D:
A mottled dragon skeleton (D:10)
6 iron imps
5 orc wizards
A worm zombie (D:7)
46 jellies
3 gnolls (D:
5 snakes
A scorpion zombie (D:7)
15 shadow imps
35 white imps
2 iguana skeletons
2 giant eyeballs
2 grey rats
A giant mite zombie (D:7)
A goblin (D:
4 hobgoblins
A jackal (D:
11 orcs
3 quokkas
7 giant bats
2 giant cockroaches (D:7)
A hobgoblin skeleton (D:10)
2 kobolds (D:
An orc skeleton (D:10)
5 orc zombies
7 rats
6 fungi
4 toadstools
263 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 459 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | Robsoie, the Vampire Summoner, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 4/4
1373 | D:2 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/14 MP: 1/5
1451 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 8/20 MP: 6/6
1567 | D:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
1597 | D:2 | Reached skill 5 in Summonings
2250 | D:3 | Reached skill 1 in Stabbing
3041 | D:4 | Found Zuymnas' Jewellery Emporium.
3044 | D:4 | Noticed Sigmund
3131 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
3181 | D:4 | Defeated Sigmund
3181 | D:4 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 25/25 MP: 2/8
3350 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 31/31 MP: 3/9
3422 | D:4 | Found Ameleim's General Store.
3490 | D:4 | Reached skill 6 in Summonings
3561 | D:4 | Found Ymellin's Jewellery Shoppe.
3677 | D:4 | Reached skill 1 in Short Blades
4053 | D:4 | Reached skill 7 in Summonings
4222 | D:4 | Found Zasyzy's Book Shop.
4728 | D:5 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 31/36 MP: 9/12
5142 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
5657 | D:6 | Reached skill 8 in Summonings
5863 | D:6 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 29/42 MP: 11/13
5887 | D:6 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
5923 | D:6 | Became a worshipper of Jiyva Jaco the Shapeless
6055 | D:6 | Reached skill 9 in Summonings
6056 | D:6 | Acquired Jiyva's first power
7705 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
7765 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
7773 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
8280 | D:8 | Acquired Jiyva's second power
8294 | D:8 | Reached skill 5 in Stealth
8314 | D:8 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 44/47 MP: 8/17
8335 | D:8 | Noticed Pikel
8356 | D:8 | Defeated Pikel
8929 | D:9 | Reached skill 10 in Summonings
9474 | D:9 | Noticed klamech's ghost
9649 | D:9 | Defeated klamech's ghost
9854 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
9995 | D:10 | Reached skill 11 in Summonings
10196 | D:10 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 50/53 MP: 10/19
10225 | D:10 | Acquired Jiyva's third power
10583 | D:10 | Reached skill 1 in Traps & Doors
11569 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Lair.

Summon Imp so far has served me extremely well, helping me survive some impossible odds.
The Jellies have indirectly helped, splashing acid on all the pests that were in their way.

Should i take Summon Canine , though i am not sure a canine is any better than the imps i can get, as i don't have yet found any selective memory spell, it could be a complete waste.
Should i take Summon Scorpions or Summon Ice Beasts ?
I have some reserves on these spells, as they are mixed summon/ice and summon/poison, while i am only skilled in summon.
From what i read it seems that it could lead into many scorpions or ice beasts summoned hostile, something i definitively don't want as my character is not really capable to deal with anything.

Or should i get an offensive spell from the earth book i have, and begin to train it a lot ?

By the way, if you manage to find entrance to slimes, you have got yourself a free rune basically

baruk · « **Reply #574 on:** August 06, 2010, 06:50:05 pm »

Quote from: Robsoie on August 06, 2010, 05:29:33 pm

every dump you make while being online will be saved into this file (each dump will overwrite it) :
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/frankhovis/frankhovis.txt

basically it will always be
Code: [Select]
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/yourCAOname/yourCAOname.txt

Cheers, I'd been looking for that page for a while.

[Re: Minotaur Warper] Just got this in the hive:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Handy against hydras (and most other things besides.. probably the best weapon I've ever found).

Taxus · « **Reply #575 on:** August 06, 2010, 06:53:10 pm »

The main Crawl IRC channel is ##crawl on chat.freenode.net, so I have created #bay12crawl on freenode.net. I will be AFK a lot. I'm playing for the next couple of hours, and will stay logged in for the weekend.

Robsoie · « **Reply #576 on:** August 06, 2010, 06:58:13 pm »

Quote from: thack on August 06, 2010, 06:48:18 pm

By the way, if you manage to find entrance to slimes, you have got yourself a free rune basically

I hope to find that entrance, a rune would be very good for the team score.
But i fear a lot possible murderous yaks, hydras, blink frogs and etc... that may be on the way, i don't think the Imps can take them, they have difficulties with the yellow frogs/whatever they are named in dungeon, and those are not the worst of Lair.

I wonder about Slimify, the wiki state

Quote

Slimify: Turn enemies into slimes. (4 MP, Food, Piety)

Is it that easy or is there some tricks the wiki does not mention ?
You can turn anything into a slime and so them being neutral with Jyiva you have no more problems ?

Quote

Handy against hydras (and most other things besides.. probably the best weapon I've ever found).

wow that's an impressive weapon of massive destruction.

Akhier the Dragon hearted · « **Reply #577 on:** August 06, 2010, 07:05:29 pm »

For the spells Summon Ice Beasts summons a tough creature that lasts for a long time and summon canine at a good level will summon wolves and war dogs which are amazing. Summon Canines will clear the orc mines but Summon Ice Beasts is probably for the best though because they are tougher and last longer. The advantage over Summon Imps is that a regular imp will teleport at the worst time and let you die to what ever it was blocking from attacking you.

Taxus · « **Reply #578 on:** August 06, 2010, 07:19:34 pm »

Also: cold-blooded monsters are slowed by cold attacks. The Lair is full of snakes and frogs. Ice beasts will clean up for ya.

I agree that ice beasts are the best. Imps blink around too much. Canines are so-so. Scorpions don't last very long, and hostile scorpions are a problem for you.

Another favorite of mine: Earth elementals. Get earth magic up to skill level 5 and most of your elementals will be friendly. Summoning an earth elemental also digs a hole in the wall, so if you are being chased by monsters, you can start to burrow a tunnel, and soon there will be a hallway filled with several buff elementals between you and your foes.

If you can get 'Demonic Horde', you will start to really mop up.

Robsoie · « **Reply #579 on:** August 06, 2010, 07:26:31 pm »

Thanks for the suggestion.

Now being in front of the stairs to Lair:6, the Imps have again serving me very well even killing a few yaks, but we have not met any Hydra or Blink Frog maybe that's why hopefully Slime Pits will not be far from there as the wiki mention it can be between 6 an 8

How much i hope it is not in Lair:8 , the horror it can potentially be there.

Those slimes eating everything are really hilarious (and annoying

), there was an unknown book on the ground in the Dungeon, my vampire was moving to take it hoping to learn wondefull summons, and coming from a corridor next to it a slime came and ate the book before i could even touch it, i was nearly laughing imagining in what kind of state of mind my character would be in front of this

edit : i tried Slimify.
What the wiki does not say is that it is in fact a power to enchant your weapon, it does not transform automatically something into a slime.

But either the enchantment is extremely limited in time, or is limited to 1 hit, as i was able to slimify a yellow frog by hitting it with my dagger that recieved the power, but no further monsters i hit.
And the slime that appeared was the low level one you often meet in Dungeon:1 and was neutral to you.

If it can work on very strong monster it is interesting, but if it can only work on average monsters, it is much debatable considering it costed me apparently enough faith to launch it to force me to lose 1 faith rank with Jyiva.
Me that was hoping to become a royal jelly soon as i was near the max rank, i have to feed those slimes a lot more now.

Taxus · « **Reply #580 on:** August 06, 2010, 07:47:59 pm »

Can't you pray to make the jellies temporarily stop eating things?

Player ghosts: Run away, most of the time. Come back and clean them up when you are more powerful. I usually go back after 3-4 levels and I'm able to kill them.

Dr.Feelgood · « **Reply #581 on:** August 06, 2010, 07:51:05 pm »

Slimify works on quicksilver dragons and elven blade masters, but it doesn't work on demons.

Robsoie · « **Reply #582 on:** August 06, 2010, 08:04:02 pm »

Sometime i hate this game.
Went down stair with a few war dogs just in case, in the bottom there was a komodo dragon.
In the bottom left of the screen there was water and 2 electric eels.

In such situation i just move back upstairs and find another downstair, after all it would have only took the komodo dragon with me and i'm sure the few war dogs and my dagger would have made short work of it, as we did it already earlier.

That if the game had at least let me played a turn, as it looks like it just skipped my turn several time :

my war dogs and the komodo dragons hit each other while the 2 eels are bombarding us with electricity.
blablabla ... More ...
I press SPACE (because i know that a neutral command that will not make me lose my turn) , the eels shoot again and dragon+dogs battle again
blablabla ... More ...
I press SPACE , the eels shoot again and dragon+dogs battle again
blablabla ... More ...
huh ? where is my turn so i can go upstair !
I press SPACE , the eels shoot again and dragon+dogs battle again
.... You die.
Great, just great is that the new "random energy thing" or does going downstair paralyse the player automatically for a few turn ?
Because my character was not affected by paralysis or slowed down.

That's not the 1st time i observe this (occured a few time offline too), but it is extremely annoying when that happens.

Skeeblix · « **Reply #583 on:** August 06, 2010, 08:06:26 pm »

Since my post in the other Crawl thread has gone unnoticed, here it is in this one, where I might get an answer.

Just decided to start playing the new version. For some reason every message line is preceded by an underscore. It's not game-breaking, but god damn is it annoying.

Can I fix this?

Also, is there a way to find out what damage your natural weapons do short of looking up the abilities in the wiki?

HideousBeing · « **Reply #584 on:** August 06, 2010, 08:17:27 pm »

Quote from: Naxza on August 06, 2010, 07:21:20 pm

Gogo Ghoul Monk.

If you want to see how embarrassingly bad my latest playthroughs have been, look here.

I'm getting better, though. Just to figure out how to tackle other players' ghosts...

They are tough. A good strategy is to run away because they can't go up or down stairs.

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