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[NW_Kohaku]

When it comes to that time the new players will probably be something like... whiners, heavy graphic set users, "y no 3d?", "how do i do 'X?' (times infintium)", "ascii is X", "X users are Y", "this game is X", "why doesn't Toady_One X?" Ect, ect, ect. Though, it will probably be like this for the first few, I don't know... seven? Eight? Ten maybe? Waves of new players, but it will be a good thing. More money for Bay12, attention, influence too, and in the long run, I'm sure something will come along that will finally get DF moving at the pace it demands/deserves.

This just won't happen. We've talked about this exact same stuff 3-4 years ago. [~2006/2007] Many users thought that this is whats gonna happen in the next 1-2 years, but they were wrong. I think that people won't register here, just to whine about the lack of gfx support and stuff like that. It's pointless.

PS. When Toady will need more money, he will improve the interface & separates txt/gfx in the engine...[Even Toady has mentioned this a long a time ago. ]

Actually, we get that sort of person who comes on just to complain about how "unintuitive" something is, or why they should need to look things up on the wiki already... and have for years.

Plus, Baughn was already talking in the Future of the Fortress about how he's preparing for making fonts be different from standard graphics, so that we can have square tiles and fonts that are taller than they are wide.

[Doomshifter]

I don't play with tilesets. I never could understand them properly.

[Creamcorn]

And the consensus on internet migrant waves is... KINDA!

• Multithreading (This will be a HUGE one, this one is really needed too)
• Interface (Rather large)
• Graphics (Sadly, this one will be huge)
• Realistic Gravity
• Moving Fortresses (Rather large)
• Magic (This will be a big one)

Hm... DF is really no where near those.

Also, anyone take a look at the Armok One boards? Come on, look at those numbers! Now compare the buzz generated by A1 to DF.

[Oglokoog]

Oh, it seems that there is a need to clarify the difference between a tileset and a graphics set. A tileset is just the set of letters and accented/special characters. A font, essentially. A graphics set, on the other hand, is the package of different graphic tiles for various creatures and objects which would otherwise be represented only by letters.
I don't know if my explanation is clear enough. Example to clarify further: if you change a tileset, the general look of the game is going to change, but a soldier and a mason will have be no different from each other except for their coloring. If you get a graphics set, they each get their own sprite (if the set creator made different sprites for each variety of dwarf, of course).

[Cthulhu]

I use non-graphical or semigraphical tilesets.  Fancy tiles for dorfs and certain objects is fine, but when you've got ten thousand 16x16 pictures running around things get messy.

[Thundrim]

• Magic (This will be a big one)

I don't get it, if I wanted Magic I would not be playing Dwarves in all games supporting them, and avoiding Fantasy Realms without proper Dwarf Respect entirely. Magic is generally frowned upon by Dwarves unless it is some messed up backwards-realm filled with half-naked Elves no doubt. I'm sure there are Wizard-Dwarves in some dubious titles out there. And they can stay out! Probably nice in Adventure mode for all the Human and Elf lovers out there though. Good for them!

I use Ironhand though, sorry for being a graphics-hugger. We have all our faults.  :P

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[Creamcorn]

*SNIP*

PAH! Elven magic! As dirty elfs will use pretty color and chimes, dwarven magic will use explosive magma balls!

[mwanafalsafa]

I've only been playing for a couple of weeks and I am still deciding which I like more.

On my PC I use Ironhand's graphics set but on my Mac I just use a slightly modified square tileset.

[Darkmere]

I feel obligated to post from the other camp and say that I find the ASCII stuff fine to read and comprehensible, but only if I'm not playing. Actually trying to garner information out of that efficiently was tedious at best. Mushrooms and trees looking the same? Nah, pass.

[quinnr]

I don't...but I look at Stonesense when I finish for the pretties.

[OmnipotentGrue]

I only use a square tileset so that my 3x3 rooms actually look square (I also tend to change tilesets frequently just for a change).

[ECrownofFire]

• Magic (This will be a big one)

I don't get it, if I wanted Magic I would not be playing Dwarves in all games supporting them, and avoiding Fantasy Realms without proper Dwarf Respect entirely. Magic is generally frowned upon by Dwarves unless it is some messed up backwards-realm filled with half-naked Elves no doubt. I'm sure there are Wizard-Dwarves in some dubious titles out there. And they can stay out! Probably nice in Adventure mode for all the Human and Elf lovers out there though. Good for them!

I use Ironhand though, sorry for being a graphics-hugger. We have all our faults.  :P

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I'm just saying that magic will get some more people. Magic would be great for adventure mode. Even in fortress mode it would be cool, can you imagine being attacked by elves that actually stood a chance against you? Okay, they don't stand a chance, but they at least can kill a few dwarves. Dwarf mages would just be awesome as well. I'm thinking that a dwarf mage could enchant armor and stuff like that. Maybe even move around water. That would be fun to order a mage to just levitate stuff around.

[That guy]

No tiles. No utilities, either.

[Dr. Hieronymous Alloy]

Never been happy with any tileset, because I learned with the ASCII and so the ASCII is clearest to me, plus every tileset seems to mess up the normal text in some place or other and I find that very annoying.

[EvilCartyen]

I play vanilla