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[Psieye]

That 'body part' fix will be HUGE. Means we won't need to worry about Shell anymore if I'm reading it correctly

I don't see that.  Quoth the Toad:

Shell crafts and other shell objects should work for next time. Artifacts made from body parts (shells, bone, etc.) should get the right material.

This is surely a fix for the bugs where someone made a Shell craft and, after expending the time and labor, got nothing.  And the bugs where someone made an artifact that included bones or shells, and it ended up as an Iron Figurine.

I don't see any changes to the availability of shells, although it's possible that will also be fixed as a side effect of something else....

Ah yes, I had read that too quickly first time round. I stand corrected.

[Orkel]

training bugs are probably the only thing putting me off DF for now.. it's just so incredibly annoying when they either don't train or get eternally stuck in it.

[greycat]

I haven't had issues with training of melee skills at all.  You just have to micromanage it all.

Do NOT set up any nonstandard alert states, or mess with the Active alert state that the game provides.  Just ignore it.

Set up a room that can become a barracks (put an armor rack or a weapon stand in it).  When you want a squad to train, make it a barracks and assign that squad to train there from within the barracks screen.  When you want the squad to stop training, unassign the barracks.

[Orkel]

I haven't had issues with training of melee skills at all.  You just have to micromanage it all.

Do NOT set up any nonstandard alert states, or mess with the Active alert state that the game provides.  Just ignore it.

Set up a room that can become a barracks (put an armor rack or a weapon stand in it).  When you want a squad to train, make it a barracks and assign that squad to train there from within the barracks screen.  When you want the squad to stop training, unassign the barracks.

well the thing is, they do nothing on inactive (no job all the time) but start organizing combat training when set to active/training, but sparring is kinda broken.

Edit: my fort just got killed by a goblin ambush because my dwarves couldn't train a proper military. I'm not playing another fort until the military bugs have been squashed.

[Meanmelter]

training bugs are probably the only thing putting me off DF for now.. it's just so incredibly annoying when they either don't train or get eternally stuck in it.

Dude, I don't notice any training bugs. Besides, training takes a while, at least when the instructor does not have good teaching skills and the others don't have good student skills.


Telling your Militia to litterly go out and kill something in the wilderness is much easier than keeping them in a room for three years.

[Orkel]

training bugs are probably the only thing putting me off DF for now.. it's just so incredibly annoying when they either don't train or get eternally stuck in it.

Dude, I don't notice any training bugs. Besides, training takes a while, at least when the instructor does not have good teaching skills and the others don't have good student skills.


Telling your Militia to litterly go out and kill something in the wilderness is much easier than keeping them in a room for three years.

http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=605

I suffer from this in every fort

It should be noted that dwarves stuck in this perma-military mode show their job as "no job" yet are not counted as idle dwarves. Sometimes, they'll permanently show a military task as their job, such as 'Individual combat drill', or 'Waiting for demonstration' etc, rather than 'no job', but the effect is the same.

[greycat]

I never remove a dwarf from a squad, unless she's dead.  There really isn't any reason to do so, is there?  As far as I can tell, having every single one of your dwarves in a squad is the optimal way to do it, because then they get to wear armor all the time, in case of ambush or wild animal attack.

[turgidtoupee]

Have you ever thought about putting dwarf fortress into, for example, the ubuntu repository? Or even just having your own. It'd be a lot easier for us linux users, rather than having to install all the dependencies ourselves.

[greycat]

That's not really something I'd want Bay 12 to spend time doing.  Packagers for Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, etc. can make their own packages for DF if they want to.

[Totaku]

Well, if everyone's been looking at the bug tracker... it seems that starting as of right 0.31.11...

Military demonstations and sparring training should be fixed! We should be able to train our Dwarves as groups instead of having them depend on individual training.

[Footkerchief]

Well, if everyone's been looking at the bug tracker... it seems that starting as of right 0.31.11...

Military demonstations and sparring training should be fixed! We should be able to train our Dwarves as groups instead of having them depend on individual training.

Here are the fixed bugs that Totaku's talking about.

[smjjames]

Well, if everyone's been looking at the bug tracker... it seems that starting as of right 0.31.11...

Military demonstations and sparring training should be fixed! We should be able to train our Dwarves as groups instead of having them depend on individual training.

Yea, the military system is now going to be like more than 90% fixed and the only remaining bugs are some combat balance, any lingering issues with training (Toady said that he got what he could find, so there may be a few lingering cases), a few issues still happening with marksdwarves/archers, and a couple of military screen crashes.

After that, I hope he gets to the bug(s) with farning as thats my last big pet peeve as far as the bugs go.

[Orkel]

Those training bugfixes make me very happy.

[smjjames]

Although maybe Toady will try to take care of the dead dwarves not getting removed automatically from the squad? That one seems to be at the root of a couple of squad issues.

But meh, I'm not going to dictate what Toady is going to do.

[Footkerchief]

Although maybe Toady will try to take care of the dead dwarves not getting removed automatically from the squad? That one seems to be at the root of a couple of squad issues.

It's helpful to link to these reports when discussing them, especially if you're trying to draw Toady's attention to them.