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[Facekillz058]

You should punch her in the face and tell her to get out of house.
Unless you live in her house.
Then don't do any of that.

[Shadowlord]

It sounds to me like the fault lies with the trash company. If they want to repeatedly not do their job and then say HEY YOU HAVE TO PAY US EVEN THOUGH WE AREN'T DOING OUR JOB you should make like Mitt Romney and fire them. Then hire a different trash collection company.

(Also if you're in the US, you can file a complaint against the company with the Better Business Bureau.)

[MaximumZero]

.... Once again, not paid for a bet because apparently a definitive verbal agreement with witnesses isn't enough for one person.  Almost made $100 off of some stupid geometry misconception someone had.  It's extra annoying since they both started the bet and were willing to bet $200, I limited to $100 because I don'tlike betting more than I have on hand, got interrupted before the handshake although 5 people knew we were going to bet, then he pulls out after 45 minutes of doodling trying to make his argument work.  I suspected he would never pay me even before we were going to shake, since he said he had no money on him, so I at least made very clear verbally that we were betting so we would have witnesses.

I consider the bet binding because:
A) he initiated it, not me, so it cannot be seen as me trying to squeeze money out of someone who wasn't willing to bet
B) he was willing to bet more than I was, further reinforcing A
C) it was clear that we both agreed on the bet, though a formal seal was not technically put in place, although verbally it was quite clear
D) multiple witnesses say thet we agreed verbally
E) the bet would have formally been sealed if the handshake hadn't been interrupted

He won't even agree that a partial bind to half the betted money would be acceptable.  Which means that I will bug him about the money he owes me for the next 4 years.

EDIT:  This may not seem that bad, but this makes a total of $1,100 dollars various people owe me through crap like this (especially annoying when they say stuff beforehand like "why do we need to shake?  We know we're betting"  They probably wouldn't have paid me anyways, though).

You need to learn to punch people in the face if they won't pay you.

[Mego]

.... Once again, not paid for a bet because apparently a definitive verbal agreement with witnesses isn't enough for one person.  Almost made $100 off of some stupid geometry misconception someone had.  It's extra annoying since they both started the bet and were willing to bet $200, I limited to $100 because I don'tlike betting more than I have on hand, got interrupted before the handshake although 5 people knew we were going to bet, then he pulls out after 45 minutes of doodling trying to make his argument work.  I suspected he would never pay me even before we were going to shake, since he said he had no money on him, so I at least made very clear verbally that we were betting so we would have witnesses.

I consider the bet binding because:
A) he initiated it, not me, so it cannot be seen as me trying to squeeze money out of someone who wasn't willing to bet
B) he was willing to bet more than I was, further reinforcing A
C) it was clear that we both agreed on the bet, though a formal seal was not technically put in place, although verbally it was quite clear
D) multiple witnesses say thet we agreed verbally
E) the bet would have formally been sealed if the handshake hadn't been interrupted

He won't even agree that a partial bind to half the betted money would be acceptable.  Which means that I will bug him about the money he owes me for the next 4 years.

EDIT:  This may not seem that bad, but this makes a total of $1,100 dollars various people owe me through crap like this (especially annoying when they say stuff beforehand like "why do we need to shake?  We know we're betting"  They probably wouldn't have paid me anyways, though).

You need to learn to punch people in the face if they won't pay you.

I cannot agree more fully with MZ here.

[ChairmanPoo]

You need to find alternative ways to solve your problems.

[Wrex]

You need to find alternative ways to solve your problems.

Bullshit. Someone was spouting nonsense up on a soapbox today. I punched them, and it stopped.

[Aklyon]

You need to find alternative ways to solve your problems.

You need to find alternative styles of punch. Perhaps the implied punch or the mental punch?

[Flying Dice]

You need to find alternative ways to solve your problems.

You need to find alternative styles of punch. Perhaps the implied punch or the mental punch?

Spiked punch?

[Aklyon]

You need to find alternative ways to solve your problems.

You need to find alternative styles of punch. Perhaps the implied punch or the mental punch?

Spiked punch?

Of the fist or of the liquid? The fist-based one just falls under the general 'Punch' category.

[MaximumZero]

My brother uses a 7-iron to the side of the face to people who owe him money, if that helps.

[Urist Imiknorris]

You need to find alternative ways to solve your problems.

You need to find alternative styles of punch. Perhaps the implied punch or the mental punch?

Spiked punch?

Of the fist or of the liquid? The fist-based one just falls under the general 'Punch' category.

I think it qualifies as a stab, actually.

[Flying Dice]

You need to find alternative ways to solve your problems.

You need to find alternative styles of punch. Perhaps the implied punch or the mental punch?

Spiked punch?

Of the fist or of the liquid? The fist-based one just falls under the general 'Punch' category.

I think it qualifies as a stab, actually.

I was going more for "get them roaring drunk, push them off a bridge". But to each their own.

[SalmonGod]

You need to find alternative ways to solve your problems.

You need to find alternative styles of punch. Perhaps the implied punch or the mental punch?

MIND BULLETS!!!

[scriver]

You need to find alternative ways to solve your problems.

+1

Seriously, if all you have to add to a discussion is "facepunch lol" then you might consider not posting.

Also, Max-O, shame on you for letting yourself be flanderised in this way! You are a too depthful and well-rounded character to accept such trivialisation. Fight the face-punch!

[SalmonGod]

Fight the face-punch!

There is so much meta in this sentence.