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Author Topic: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea - One Year Later  (Read 110546 times)

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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #900 on: July 16, 2010, 04:49:35 am »

I give it a month.
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #901 on: July 16, 2010, 02:25:45 pm »

The question arises as to how long it will work for, and what the side-effects will be, but I don't have any objection to it on aesthetic grounds...

How long? Long enough for the relief well. What's the side effect to sealing off a leaking pipe? Well. Uh. BP stock might go up. That sufficiently bad in your opinion?
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #902 on: July 16, 2010, 03:59:23 pm »

Your faith in the corporate machine is heartwarming.
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #903 on: July 16, 2010, 05:19:17 pm »

My faith in the corporate machine? No. That's not a corporate machine. That's a precision engineered chunk of steel bolted to the end of a pipe, designed to last as long as it takes to get the relief well dug. That's trust in hard science PhD's breaking slide rules and burning out water lathes for the last three months trying to solve a practical problem. I don't see anything emotional about that at all.
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #904 on: July 16, 2010, 05:28:49 pm »

Who said BP consulted anyone qualified to make this cap? They could have just bolted a random chunk of steel to the end of the breach. Do you have any evidence that this attempt should work in theory?
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #905 on: July 16, 2010, 05:30:01 pm »

You are taking for granted that it will last. Questions about the thing's durability are quite legitimate, specially considering the circumstances
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #906 on: July 16, 2010, 05:37:28 pm »

Also there are concerns as to the effects that the foreign object may have on ocean life, not that there is any of that left... Some concerns have also been raised about geological stability... Stock prices are not the only possible consequences...
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #907 on: July 16, 2010, 06:25:15 pm »

Also there are concerns as to the effects that the foreign object may have on ocean life... Stock prices are not the only possible consequences...

You are not happy because they capped the gushing oil pipe with a foreign object which may have negative affects on ocean life. Reason has been defenstrated from this thread. I wash my hands in the face of this crucifying mob.
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #908 on: July 16, 2010, 06:30:45 pm »

Actually, the cap is a great deal more technical that what is implied here. It's a series of valves (designed by an anonymous plumber according to one news story I read) designed to be closed one at a time so the leak isn't sealed violently. This means if bad things start to happen the valves can be opened again. Theoretically.
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #909 on: July 16, 2010, 06:36:00 pm »

My faith in the corporate machine? No. That's not a corporate machine. That's a precision engineered chunk of steel bolted to the end of a pipe, designed to last as long as it takes to get the relief well dug. That's trust in hard science PhD's breaking slide rules and burning out water lathes for the last three months trying to solve a practical problem. I don't see anything emotional about that at all.

You'd think if BP's engineering was that good deepwater horizon wouldn't have exploded in the first place.
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #910 on: July 16, 2010, 07:02:37 pm »

Also there are concerns as to the effects that the foreign object may have on ocean life... Stock prices are not the only possible consequences...

You are not happy because they capped the gushing oil pipe with a foreign object which may have negative affects on ocean life. Reason has been defenstrated from this thread. I wash my hands in the face of this crucifying mob.
I am not satisfied, because I am not yet certain that the problems are over. you, on the other hand, seemed to object on the grounds that it looked like a coffee container, I don't really see the reason in that...
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #911 on: July 16, 2010, 09:26:25 pm »

Also there are concerns as to the effects that the foreign object may have on ocean life... Stock prices are not the only possible consequences...

You are not happy because they capped the gushing oil pipe with a foreign object which may have negative affects on ocean life. Reason has been defenstrated from this thread. I wash my hands in the face of this crucifying mob.
I am not satisfied, because I am not yet certain that the problems are over. you, on the other hand, seemed to object on the grounds that it looked like a coffee container, I don't really see the reason in that...
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #912 on: July 16, 2010, 09:57:48 pm »

A Sockpuppet account?!?! How dare you, you vile treacher!

Note: This is my only registered account on these forums.
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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #913 on: July 17, 2010, 07:23:44 pm »

A Sockpuppet account?!?! How dare you, you vile treacher!

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Re: There's a Hole in the Bottom of the Sea
« Reply #914 on: July 17, 2010, 11:38:44 pm »

I'm confident that cap will hold as long as needed.  Or at least significantly reduce the amount of oil escaping.   If anything it does look pretty solid.

I do figure there probably are going to be some adverse effects if it stays capped like that for too long, (more oil escaping from the ocean floor, possibility of damage to the relief rig when they reach the hole, or if that methane blowout bull actually has any credibility whatsoever maybe hastening that) but hopefully the relief wells should be complete before any of that becomes an issue, and if something catastrophic does look like it's going to happen they can open up a few valves to release some pressure.

I mean really, BP has screwed up so much I bet they have all kinds of agencies looking over their shoulder at their every move.  And even if they don't, screwing THAT up with shoddy work or bad design would probably put the last nail in BP's coffin.  If I was somebody in charge of BP, I would be doing everything I could do to NOT screw this up if I didn't want to get lynched in the street.
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