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[kuro_suna]

Tell a fundie bacteria can evolve TO EAT RADIATION and they'll make up something about crappy soviet engineering being part of gods plan and call you a heathen for saying that makes no sense.

Microevolution is by no means against my religion. And besides, any god that didn't give its creation some ability to adapt would be pretty stupid, right?

That's actually macroevolution since the change has become wide spread among the species, microevolution referring to micro organism is a made up creationist misconception to discredit research on bacteria.

[Realmfighter]

Now I'm intrigued. I've never seen "proof" of anything outside of mathematics. Nor have I ever seen valid evidence for the existence of any deity. Please, provide.

I think what he was trying to say is that even if someone came up with definitive proof to there side of the argument, the other side would not be swayed.

Now, please stop. Your stinking up the forums with your religious argument.

[Pwnzerfaust]

Now I'm intrigued. I've never seen "proof" of anything outside of mathematics. Nor have I ever seen valid evidence for the existence of any deity. Please, provide.

I think what he was trying to say is that even if someone came up with definitive proof to there side of the argument, the other side would not be swayed.

Now, please stop. Your stinking up the forums with your religious argument.

Ah, well, he's wrong. If someone could provide strong evidence of a god's existence, I'd be a believer, because I have this little thing called "intellectual honesty" which means I change my opinions and beliefs based on new evidence.

[Realmfighter]

But, you believe that the could never happen, therefore, even if it does you call it a accident of a fluke.

[CJ1145]

That's actually macroevolution since the change has become wide spread among the species, microevolution referring to micro organism is a made up creationist misconception to discredit research on bacteria.

... I don't know which, but one of us is SERIOUSLY messed up in their understanding of the term "microevolution"

When I say it, I mean small evolutionary changes that allow a species to adapt to its environment.

To respond to pwnzerfaust, I agree that this could in theory lead to a single species branching out into others. For example, a single species of canine becoming wolves, coyotes, dingos, etc. It's when somebody says that this

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that I start to get suspicious.

[warhammer651]

I say we declare this discussion a draw, let them take it to private messages, and go back to posting funny quotes from the site.

[CJ1145]

Sounds good.

[Huesoo]

Tell a fundie bacteria can evolve TO EAT RADIATION and they'll make up something about crappy soviet engineering being part of gods plan and call you a heathen for saying that makes no sense.

Microevolution is by no means against my religion. And besides, any god that didn't give its creation some ability to adapt would be pretty stupid, right?

Fun fact: "Macroevolution" is just a lot of "microevolution".

What I've got about what?

I was going to say what's your inconceivably convincing proof that there is no god, but scratch that. I have somewhere to be soon and don't have time for a drawn-out debate.

Ah, well, here's the thing. The burden isn't on the one who lacks belief in something to provide evidence for its non-existence; the burden is on the person making the assertion that it exists.

Guys please keep it out of the thread, go to the Athiesm thread please. We're here to laugh at ignorant morons.

[Pwnzerfaust]

That's actually macroevolution since the change has become wide spread among the species, microevolution referring to micro organism is a made up creationist misconception to discredit research on bacteria.

... I don't know which, but one of us is SERIOUSLY messed up in their understanding of the term "microevolution"

When I say it, I mean small evolutionary changes that allow a species to adapt to its environment.

Kuro_suna is the one with the misconception.

To respond to pwnzerfaust, I agree that this could in theory lead to a single species branching out into others. For example, a single species of canine becoming wolves, coyotes, dingos, etc. It's when somebody says that this

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became this

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that I start to get suspicious.

Well it didn't "become" that. They shared a common ancestor. Probably smallish dinosaur. I'm not entirely sure on the details, and I don't think anyone at all is, but genetic markers, the fossil record, and anatomical similarities are all pretty clear on the matter.

Guys please keep it out of the thread, go to the Athiesm thread please. Were hear to laugh at ignorant morons.

Kk.

[CJ1145]

I found this gem from the Conspiracy Theories sister site.

I question the reality of Anthropogenic climate change, as should all thinking people. Also I oppose wind power 100%. I view windfarms as an assault on the Planet and its peoples. Wind farms are a clumsy and ugly attempt at climate engineering, as thery greatly disrupt the planets "Hadley cells". Too, I must add that a guge number of people are questioning the trojan horse inside which is packaged the one world government our traitors in Parliament refer to as the New World Order. The whole thing is spin, bunkum and lies. I know the Telegraph is overseen by MI6, but how do find the nerve to peddle such tosh?

[kuro_suna]

micro evolution is any mutation that only exists is a small sample of species and macro one that either creates a new species or exits in almost all its population.

The problem with your definition is its usually used as a way to move the goal posts anytime science makes any advancements.

[CJ1145]

Another conspiracy one. Probably my favorite.

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Alien Communication and the Evolution Homo Sapiens IS Now Underway

I have consulted the grays and have received new information in the form of another technique that will make it easier to contact the stream and have alien comms. I have forgone the title of “proof positive” for obvious reasons since the last thread did not go as planned and has stirred up to much human emotion in the dialogue.

First humans need to understand that there is an incalculable amount of life forms that come in every variety you can imaging and some you can’t; observing earth right now. They are EVERYWHERE, right next to you, in your garden, next to your supper table, next to your bed and oh yes under it. Their ships fill the skies and the outer atmosphere; there are 3rd dimensional beings the ones you see and sense and there are beings from 32 other dimensions all observing the great experiment know as “earth”.

ET (and I use the term ET to as a general acronym for all the species involved in observing earth) generally determines what, how, when, and where contact will take place it’s really never up to the individual unless your job enables you to initiate contact.

What humans also need to understand that there is a wonderful revolution\\evolution underway with humans, you will all experience a conscious shift that will usher in a NEW AGE of enlightenment and prosperity for all of humanity. To help usher in this new age will be humans that are given certain jobs and to accompany these jobs they are given gifts. But the controlling defacto does NOT want this to happen they are all hell bent on stopping what is inevitable; the evolution of the species know as humans.

Now I am simple here to help and facilitate anyone who is willing to except this shift with yet another exercise to lift your vibrational level to match that of the stream and to meet an Alien species know as the “GRAYS”. They are a beautiful and benevolent species that are here for the betterment of mankind and to help move and prepare us all for what is now underway.

So with all that said onto the new exercise instruction set:

First and foremost you need to have an OPEN MIND, you need to tell yourself that this is not work but fun and proceed accordingly.

Step one:
Go to Google and find a tone generator, there are many ones on the internet… don’t want to post a specific one for obvious reasons…. But find one that will allow you to create a SIN WAVE with a frequency of 0.834 HRz, and output it to a wave file for duration 810 seconds exactly. The tone will not be audible to the human ear so I suggest you use a nice visualization plug in for Windows Media Player.

Step two:
Go back to Google and look for an image of the “Flower of Life”, select the one that really resonates with you the most…. And print the image. Take the image and really understand that what you are looking at is a very POWERFUL energy source that is connected with all of creation. Once you start to feel the energy coming off it you are ready for step 3.

Step 3:
Get comfortable, relaxed and into your place of power…. Now start the audio track, relax and see yourself in your minds eyes sitting in the middle of the flower of life… like you are floating in a vast void know as the multiverse so large and expansive that it has no ending and no beginning.

Step 4:
Picture the following around you while you are sitting on the flower of life, north is aligned in front of you.

North = Number 8
South = Number 1
East = Number 2
West = Number 7

Keep the number still and observe yourself from a distance with the numbers surrounding your being.

I don’t want to tell you what will happen next except that you will be directed to the stream above you when the time is right.

Folks this is a way more advance what of communication but yet on the same thought it is way easier to establish contact with the stream and the GRAYS.

Please report back here on your experience…

[Aqizzar]

Holy crap, that's some good stuff.  Somebody try and see what happens; be sure to send a message when you get beyond the veil.

CJ, to calmly answer your problem with "macroevolution" (and the difference is indeed one of made-up semantics; "small" changes is Adaptation, Evolution is Adaption over a very long time) - the difference between wolves evolving into dogs and [some dinosaur] evolving into chickens is a difference of hundreds of generations versus millions of generations.  You give adaption enough time and enough variables, and you get anything eventually.  Does that make any sense?

(Damn nginx errors.)

[Huesoo]

Kuro what did I say?

Also this:

If I want to call Obama a lawn jocky, magical negro, fried chicken eating marxist SOB, then I dang well am going to do so! As for Racism, one of my best friends is a Black WOMAN (That's TWO protected groups in one!) Oh, and I'm HISPANIC (That's three for me, what the hell do you got huh!?) Shove the racist c*** up your whiney ass, no one's buying it here.

That means if im an Native American I have to right to call anyone I want a spic, nigger, cracker and gook, why because I'm NATIVE AMERICAN (one major protected group for me there) and I'm friends with a JEWISH GAY BLACK WOMAN (thats five to me assholes).

My god these are amazing:

"Whites who voted for McCain were declaimed as racists. 95% of blacks voted for the Magic Negro. Who are the racists?

Obamination and his ass-kissing lackeys have undone everything that Americans have accomplished since the Revolution. I for one will rejoice when that communist son of a bitch leaves (or is removed from) office. Let it be soon. The country won't survive another year of the Kenyan-born, moon-god-worshipping, goat-raping bastard's hopey-changey bullshit.

[warhammer651]

This one is gold

The Garden of Eden was located in the realm that God and the angels dwell in, which wasn't in the physical realm on Earth. There was a stargate that was the entrance and exit between the two realms. The angel that guarded this entrance and exit didn't really have a flamming sword but one like the light saber in Star Wars, which resembled a flamming sword to keep Adam and Eve from re-entering the stargate to return to the realm of God. I would imagine it would also prevent water from entering it if God wanted to keep it out.

And another

my point is that if gravity brought asteroids and meteors together, the cells would be crushed by either the rock and/or the gravity.

but thats only hundreds of miles away. (between the core and the surface) its even stronger more towards the core of each planet. so, when the planets were first forming, the cells would be crushed under all that gravity, even when jupiter got started. we all know that the smaller the planet, the more gravity there is.

plus its hard to believe that cells have just landed on earth and started evolving w/o sever casulties from burning up in the atmosphere.