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[TomiTapio]

Outdoor never-dig fort. FUN. (and better fps due to less pathing)
Deon: small request, heavy wild animals like cow, elephant should not be able to outrun 90% of militia dorfs. Small speed reduction please. And they run real fast while bleeding, too.

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challenge fort: no mining, bring 4 axes, no anvil. Thus no mechanisms except from (consecrated) rock we brought.
Sootheaxe, Bunemlibash. 3x3 region8, temperate shrubland
5 rabbits 3 bulldogs 15 sacred basalt.
Build cabin around big pool.

Summer 1. two migrants.
trade with ezras.
Autumn 1. migrants to 15!
Make some nests and hive boxes.
Winter 1.
forge four daggers.

Spring 2. migrants to 21.
summer migrants to 28. train fighting.
wild cows and bulls are real fast, have to chase them a long while.

a centaur siege! everybody to our enclosure and wait for them to come.
Great victory, lost no-one! (28 pages, the toughest centaur!)
Autumn 2.
oops, 132 cow bone gauntlets made.
migrants to 35.
205 fps, 3x3 embark, 35 citizens, 1+33 animals, 2 cavern layers (zero digging). 188k wealth. 22 stones, 370 logs. Litter from one siege.

a flayer ambush! lost marksdwarf. Bah flayers climb to wall of out enclosure, scaring everyone out from safety zone.
a 2nd ambush! lost two in total. four in hospital.
trade some, got metals.
..
winter 2.
build more and more roof to our logfort.

a were siege, get indoors. Weres tear through our pasture.
Our leader charges forward for no reason. Join him.
victory, lost leader. And two others. Hooray, one pool-side cage trap caught a huge bastard. We are 30.

Spring 3. almost out of logs. and new trees grow!
Migrants to 57!!
..
two squads of no-skills.
chase wild cows. find a flayer ambush! They fled.
tame four wild cattle. Duskies and sylvans come.
Summer 3. migrants.
148 fps, 3x3 embark, 63 citizens, 0+35 animals, 2 cavern layers (zero digging). 302k wealth. 30 stones, 450 logs. Litter from one siege and few ambushes.
low on drink.
butcher excess animals.

A centaur siege! Two squads. Our spiked wooden ball traps are working somewhat. Bruising skin, muscle, fat...
Big victory due to them coming to us through corridor. lost a macer, leg hacked off.
A flayer ambush. and 2nd. lost two novices. 8 in hospital.
add cap, coif, hood to armor set. (earlier added robe and cloak)
Autumn 3. migrants to 68.

flayer ambush while foraging.
2nd squad, lsot a bone doc.
3rd squad, with a gith.
4th squad from northwest.
area-blasting outpost mind snatcher. We are 66 and victorious.
two caravans.

NOOO A BUSHFIRE! OUR STOCKPILES! Fire starts in 3 spots! (imp of demonic ambush)
DOZENS (16) BLEED OUT FROM BURNED SKIN! We 50. (56 fps)
Fires are done. Lost one more herbalist.
Winter 3. One tantrum murder.
Two caged prisoners remain, wooden cages burned. 7 in hospital. (5 useless kids)
Fresh trees. Chop chop. Barrels needed.
good carpenter berserks.
100 fps, 3x3 embark, 47 citizens, 5+18 animals, 2 cavern layers (zero digging). 107k wealth. 30 stones, 470 logs. Litter from one siege and loads of ambushes. Bushfire wiped out wealth.
a new golden still. 5 in rest. More caskets get built.
soldier-woodcrafter starved.
Doc cancels suturing: Unconscious.
still zero drink! All barrels go to crap meat.

late winter caravan.
WERE SIEGE. riding monitors and white lions.
fight their first squad. then a flayer ambush comes.
Siege is over! 12 hostiles remain. we 39. Axer drowned... should have walk-out ramps!
victory, we 35. 21 able, 4 kids.
65-88 fps, 3x3 embark, 35 citizens, 2+13 animals, 2 cavern layers (zero digging). 106k wealth. 30 stones, 470 logs. Litter from sieges and ambushes. Bushfire wiped out wealth.

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[Dutchling]

@TomiTapio, do you play an older version of genesis? I've never seen Werewolves attacking with mounts?

[TomiTapio]

I have Genesis .19a4 with .20 exe and today changed to .21 exe. And a few tweaks to mineral avalaibility and critter speeds.

I guess it's hardcoded in the sieging code that on 2nd or 3rd siege they bring mounts.
They don't have use good/evil animals tag but they have [AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE] as per Genesis.

Edit:

"2 cavern layers (zero digging)" How?
"still zero drink! All barrels go to crap meat." you can reserve barrels

init/world_gen.txt can put [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:2].
Edit2: Haven't seen or opened the caves, but they still affect fps (flows, cave people's food stocks).
I have no idea how to command "use barrels only for brew". So I dumped 30+ meals and 30+ plants and brewing started.

[Kogut]

"2 cavern layers (zero digging)" How?

"still zero drink! All barrels go to crap meat." you can reserve barrels

[BigD145]

"2 cavern layers (zero digging)" How?

Cave with beast, maybe. That may or may not get you into the top layer.

[TomiTapio]

And the final months of no-digging Copper-whatevers.

(Haven't seen or opened the caves, but they still affect fps (flows, cave people's food stocks). So cavern count is mentioned on the fps-data line.)

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Spring 4. 10 in rest. 21 able.
dump meals and plants. brewing gets going.
someone is starving in a shallow half-well-used pond. Bah dodging. Drop food to him since we can't dig. Scrape safety ramps to ponds with our daggers. (well picks actually)
Bury 7 more dorfs.
Migrants to 59. incl diagnoser and soldier and decent smith. Damn, have 6 children here.
tear down log walls so can make more caskets.

Sylvans. Only 2 in hospital! Both cripples.
Buy two dragon raptors!
A silly minotaur comes. Punier than a cave croc. Mino in pond, bleh! It climbed out a was slain. Oddom got crippled in the fight.
Demonic ambush! Indoors. Fight. Lost many. 6 in rest.
early summer, fresh trees. 4 in rest.
(Hmm, buckets-only furniture pile does have pots.)
a few migrants to 59.
Bury 4 more. Party.

Ezras. Of course a siege too. Demonic. One squad. A centaur siege also starts, 4 squads.
flayer ambush on the heels of demonics.
fighting... we 50. Four ambushes show up.
One infection death., we 47.
damn bushfire starts, we 44. (37 fps)

few centaur come into our cabin. we 39. we 31. centaurs thirump! Tripumph. Triumph.
our wrestler has lasted 86 pages so far.
22 of us, 50 hostiles. we 12, and we start fleeing.

[guale]

I've got a request to go in with the install options coming up. I want to play a more slow paced game, with skill rates slowed down and grow duration for crops raised to be multi-seasonal. I'm in the process of doing a quick and dirty version for myself but it would be nice not to have to do it for each version and I'm sure you would be able to balance the numbers better.

[Qinetix]

Err... it seems like you want more of a challange...
But there must be more like you to support this if you really want it

[Nat]

So I took a bit of a break from Dwarf Fortress... and now I have 118 pages of this thread to catch up on

[Jeoshua]

Did I do something wrong here? I installed 31.21 manually, seeing all the changes in the raws that had been made and updating my files manually.  Then I dropped the graphics folder in and genned a new world.  Everything went great until I started adventure mode as a Nord.

My nord is a normal, if blue, human looking graphics tile.

But all the people in the vilages are rendered as bones.  Different colored bones.  I opened up the graphics folder and the nords are deffinitely in there, along with Osmen and Delves and all that stuff (I modified my file to turn orcs back into osmen, mainly a cosmetic touch and never caused problems in prior versions.  I just couldn't stand orcs that spoke chinese.  Weird)

[TomiTapio]

Did I do something wrong here? I installed 31.21 manually, seeing all the changes in the raws that had been made and updating my files manually.  Then I dropped the graphics folder in and genned a new world.
But all the people in the vilages are rendered as bones.

So do you have vanilla .21 with genesis graphics folder dropped in, or Genesis .19a4 with .21 exe? I recommend you go with genesis install and then put the .21 exe and required "data/index".

Oh and renaming the civ, did you do matching renaming inside graphics definitions? In graphics_example.txt around [CREATURE_GRAPHICS:ORC]

[Jeoshua]

Actually there were separate files for Orcs and Osmen already in the graphics folder.  Changing every occurance of ":ORC" with ":OSMAN" even seemed to catch even the graphics files and change them to the human, rather than orcine, graphics file.

But they work just fine.

The problem is the Nords... and I'm having trouble seeing that there is even any mention of the Nords in these text files I got here.

For the record, it's all 31.21 here baby... From the exe to the raws... well the raws are hand edited and so I think I made a mistake somewhere, but from what I can tell about the graphics stuff, it's not contained in the raws/objects folder at all, which other than the orc->osman change is the only place I ever touched.

[TomiTapio]

The problem is the Nords... and I'm having trouble seeing that there is even any mention of the Nords in these text files I got here.
For the record, it's all 31.21 here baby... From the exe to the raws... well the raws are hand edited

Crimson Editor's "find in files" function with "nord" tells me that [TILE_PAGE:NORDS] and [CREATURE_GRAPHICS:NORD] are in the graphics_example.txt, lines 740-960 -ish. Sure you got those copied?

[Jeoshua]

... a file which is completely empty for me...  My disk must have messed up somehow and wiped the file...

I wonder how many other files are empty, now...

edit: Redownloaded, copied the graphics folder back in, started the adventure back up.

I see Nords.

[arghy]

Jesus is there a summary of all the new changes from 3.18e? i mean in terms of vanilla DF cause the whole vein thing surprised me and now theres talk of fucking feeding animals and a shitton of other stuff. I swear you look away for 1 week and DF has evolved into a completely new game.