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[Phoebus]

Wee! I no longer have to mod in Anthracite? did you make it appear in Metamorphic layer like RL anthracite?

Yes, it's in metamorphic layer and spawns as small clusters.

[MiamiBryce]

So I guess I'm the only person to have nothing but willow trees in heavily forested swamps.

How do ya'll deal with how DARK ironhand is, i used to love the phoebus tile set, but its all dark now too.

Sad me is sad.

[rainekage]

I'm the grimdarkness of the worldgen, everything is willow trees and swamps.

Hello thread!  This post is long, rambling, and almost entirely off the main topic.

Since I didn't get to comment at the RPG gender thing, I will comment on it now: I will play either gender.  In something like Fallout (2 is still best, but love them all), I'll play both genders - how the world interacts with you is a huge part of the game, and it's very different between the genders.  Mass Effect or Dragon Age?  Both genders.

I played DC Universe for a day or two last week while visiting relatives, and I played female character - I really don't care much for the "absurdly muscular" character type, which isn't even all that common amongst superheroes nowadays, so I'm not sure why that was my only choice - so I played female.  Sometimes it really is about what looks best. 


I didn't even notice I didn't have tetrahedrite - I just figured the civs I picked on embark didn't have any!  Thankfully I'm always swimming in iron (Dwarves would probably do that literally).  Tomi's embark is pretty different in some ways from mine.  I might start my next embark with creatures I'm willing to butcher next time (so far have embarked only with egg-producing and milk/fur creatures), currently spend about 60 points on meat.

I suppose after all this time, I'm still really bad at trap placement.  Currently embarking on  a totally flat biome, so I have to dig straight down.  Not sure how I'm going to set up defenses, but I suppose a ridiculous wall is called for.  I want a deep moat, but then I'd end up carving into the soil storage areas of my fort!

Looking forward to a copper-laden world when Deon is done with beer, porn, and Sega Shadowrun (Which I am terrible at - Guess it's the PnP for me).

[asfghn]

How do ya'll deal with how DARK ironhand is

Oh thank God, it's not just me!

I have chronic migraines so I have to have my monitor on the darkest setting and I have gone insane trying to get it light enough to be able to make out some things (cough, water). Tomi suggested mucking about with the colors.txt in data/init which helped somewhat, and I've found that—although it's not as aesthetically appealing—setting the water to appear as depth numbers helps infinitely.

Hope this helps!

[Aramco]

I've found that—although it's not as aesthetically appealing—setting the water to appear as depth numbers helps infinitely.

Really? I can't stand not having the depth numbers.

[TomiTapio]

Here's my current Ironhand raws, with were and flayer count a little reduced, and tetrahedrite (frequency 70(not 100) in every single type of stone). No anthracite, we have two charcoal coming from every log stack. Graphite in steel reaction, that's for Deon to decide. I've enabled silver and brass and zinc ammo.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8967397/deons%20genesis%203.24b%20Ironhand%20%28raws%20plus%20stuff%29.zip
Edit10: Changed my new spirit raven's frequency from "common everywhere" to "quite rare everywhere". (I haven't tested them yet, as I haven't rolled a new world&embark.)

My current fort is recovering from a flayer siege, where two void masters (trap avoiding super sorcerers) almost killed everyone. Damn forgotten Blöb ööze suffocated(long paralysis) 15+. Only the six happiest are allowed to carry mining and woodcutting gear now.
Squad: "The Rooms of Owning". Defeated a flayer siege. Then cantaur siege came with 3 squads + animals, clogged weapon traps let everyone through, hail of arrows to the hospital, Absolute centaur victory.

Meat-bunny is not happy!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Giant rabbit by Tomi Tapio, on Flickr. Hey, Flickr gives BBCode format embedding info.

[Setharnas]

How do ya'll deal with how DARK ironhand is

Oh thank God, it's not just me!

Definitely not.

I have chronic migraines so I have to have my monitor on the darkest setting and I have gone insane trying to get it light enough to be able to make out some things (cough, water). Tomi suggested mucking about with the colors.txt in data/init which helped somewhat, and I've found that—although it's not as aesthetically appealing—setting the water to appear as depth numbers helps infinitely.

Hope this helps!

It does, but do you by chance remember just about where in this thread of almost 6300 posts that discussion was? And how does your current setup looklike, if you'd care to share?

[SirAaronIII]

I have chronic migraines

I'll tell you the truth: I read that as "migrants".
OT: I really don't like graphics, so I tend to avoid them if possible. Seeing as Genesis has so many new and useful features, though, I'm willing to make an exception.

[TomiTapio]

It does, but do you by chance remember just about where in this thread of almost 6300 posts that discussion was? And how does your current setup looklike, if you'd care to share?

No need to remember, type "colors.txt" into the forum's upper right corner search box.

You can try various colour sets, and adjust the individual colours too.
http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Color_scheme#.22Natural.22_scheme

Mildly related: In February, Deon gave colors.txt: one for Ironhand, one for Phoebus. (The animal and person graphics have not-changeable-by-raws colours.)

[Setharnas]

Thank you, appreciated.

[Daff]

I like the whole dark and gritty look of ironhand, bright and shiny and happy colours make me want to vomit.
Hmm, could be the cave adaptation setting in.

[Phoebus]

How do ya'll deal with how DARK ironhand is

Oh thank God, it's not just me!

I have chronic migraines so I have to have my monitor on the darkest setting and I have gone insane trying to get it light enough to be able to make out some things (cough, water). Tomi suggested mucking about with the colors.txt in data/init which helped somewhat, and I've found that—although it's not as aesthetically appealing—setting the water to appear as depth numbers helps infinitely.

Hope this helps!

The primary problem with water is it's blue. Blue is the darkest of the primary colors by far.
In my tileset, I have to change (in the next update, 25v09) light blue to 100% blue, 50% green & 38% red so it doesn't look so f'ing dark. Dark blue will be 100% blue, 35% green & 18% red.
Meanwhile, 100% red, 0% blue & green will melt your retinas off.

The the secondary problem that every palette color is then multiplied in-game with greyscale tile, resulting in even darker colors.
And everything can't be fullbright, otherwise you get a zebra stripe effect and everything is hard to id. My grounds will always stay much darker than the other objects for contrast.

I'm currently making test where the grass & plants will all use bright green instead of dark green. This should make topside less grimdark.
I'm on the verge of snapping and just going through each tile in the tileset and increase their brightness to the max. 

[Phoebus]

(Old style) dark green plants with light & dark grass


Light green plants with only light green grass


Light green plants with light green grass, small brightness variation from the tileset (also 10% brighter grass, but that's independent of the style)

[Jeoshua]

I like it much better with the variation between types.  The middle one looks too "flat"

[TomiTapio]

Yeah the middle one is least best.

I haven't posted a fort leader's log in weeks, so thought I'd make one with this fort:

Lakedike, Nerimush.
3x3 warm savannah. Flux predicted.
Bring 4 mastiffs, 4 spaniels, 14 donkeys, 5 sheep. 2 axes, 2 picks, 3 daggers, 14 leathers, 14 logs. (3200 points allowed by the king)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There's 6 pools in the area, must choose one to drain. Reservoirs done.
Dig down... find caves, little bits of cassiterite there.
Got magnetite & tiger iron (gem).
A herd of giraffes! Too dangerous to hunt yet.
Out of food and drink. Butchering time. Sorted, got 20 meals and 60 meat left over.
The donkeys are smashing some rats nests.
Summer 1.
Make a Dolomite Depot.
Two migrants, thresher and clothier... *sigh* always the plant-lovers first.
Fireflies in the ryegrass, bumblebees among the ash and alder.

Peek more into the caves. Cassiterite and blood spiders.
Caves2 on -13 to -17. No ores there!
Nine animals have given birth.
Donkeys totally freak from two sneaky thieves!
a spirit raven is pecking a donkey.
First Iron is hammered to order.
3 migrants to 12.
Home caravan. Gonna sell iron swords and donkey meat kebab.
Winter 1.
Failed to trade, too busy. Make first well.

Spring 2. (385 fps)
Cook is making four-meat soups.
More baby animals. Have 44 beasts. Have 75 rock pots.
Migrants to 33! Hurrah! We have soldiers! Aban is a 9-9-9-9.

Sylvans. Oh no, goblin siege troops! Indoors! Have one sweet weapon trap.
But our soldiers didn't go indoors, as they were actively training outdoors...
Make novice squad, they rush out to help. We lost four fair soldiers! Six in hospital.
Duskies.
Summer 2. (275 fps)
Mood: dolomite earring, 8k.
put all animals to pasture-cave.

Late in the season, so get indoors. Centaur siege comes! Trapridor not finished.
Asob is fighting them all alone, and blocking all their attacks! Charge out to help out hero!
Victory, but lost SIX. we are 31.
Aban the adequate axer killed five horsebastards and lived! She is most happy. (strong and slow to tire Jade clan)

Autumn 2.
Our new leader has no skills except fishing and bragging about fish.
A FB hairy ant comes. (No path)
As killed SIX ceantaurs! (agile quickheal JADE) He has both feet broken.
56 animals too much, chop time.
Catten the lowbie has mood: pure iron bed, 35k.
late, two caravans. Get indoors.
Trading done.