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[Pandarsenic]

Janus is still scum.

[dorf]

How does one get prod'd?
It seems odd how Eduren didn't even make a sound yet. Especially because he's been online today!

Zai looks very twitchy lately, doesn't he? Seems like he realized that he overdefended Pandarsenic. And now, when he tried to correct the situation, he dug an even bigger hole!

Pandarsenic: you're really not helping yourself with the repeating empty accusations...

Thus, I say Zai + Pandarsenic seem the most scummy to me, atm.

[Leafsnail]

That being said, I think you're trying a little to hard to damn me.  I'm not trying to defend myself, I'm trying to get other players to post so that we can read them.  I've definitely gotten responses out of you (Leafsnail) and Pandarsenic, so that's good.

I'm not trying to defend myself, I'm trying to get other players to post so that we can read them.

I'm not trying to defend myself

Then try, scumbag.

Dude... Since there are no roles (excepting the doctor), I can't use my usual logic-like game so I'm forced to be more aggressive than usual.

My accusation is lack of aggression, not excess aggression.  Heck, the post you just made looks like an apology and an attempt not to annoy anyone.  In addition, you seem to be buddying me by agreeing to a post I made and pushing a lurker.  Very, very scummy.

Janus is still scum.

Yeah, but try and say something useful about it.

Thus, I say Zai + Pandarsenic seem the most scummy to me, atm.

And yet there seems to be a blindness towards me and Janus.  Why?

[JanusTwoface]

You've played with me before, yes?  I don't do aggressive well in general.  That was me being aggressive.  This is also me being aggressive, just so you know...

Spoiler: Why Pandarsenic is scum (click to show/hide)

I'm thinking Zai and Janus maybe.

Zai's attempt to buddy me is a little weird; he went to unusual lengths to defend me. Janus... Janus eats gunpowder and shits scum, basically. I shouldn't even have to explain it.

You shouldn't even have to explain it why exactly?  Isn't the entire point of the game to find scum and lynch them?  In your mind, you've found scum, but your vote (and Leafsnail's I guess) are not nearly enough to lynch me, so why would you not explain your reasoning.

There's no buddying in my post. Try again.

Zai, I'm still uncertain about; I'm leaving him to Webadict, assuming Webby himself isn't scum.

Janus, though? Definitely mafia.

Webadict, who has been playing unusually calmly and quietly.  Just listen to him yelling in pretty much every game (even after being dead) and it's obvious that something is going on.  So why in the world are you depending on him to scum hunt?

Also not the distinct lack of anything other than the accusation. 

Mephansteras, that really smells scummy to me.

As usual, it's all my wintuition I'm going on, but it does. Not as sure of you as I am of Janus though.

Janus is still scum.

Blah blah blah.  Janus is scum because I say Janus is scum because Janus is scum because ...

vote Pandarsenic

Also, webadict is scum.

See I can make vague claims without bringing up any sort of evidence as well as either of you.

[Eduren]

Explanation: Tomorrow was spent at a relatives for an early christmas. When I got home at midnight, I checked my unread replies and due to dakarian putting this in a separate thread, all I saw was that the game was "In Setup" and figured I could go to bed and start in the morning.

Now gimme a sec to get my reads.

[dakarian]

Current Vote Count:
Eduren[1]: Mephansteras, JanusTwoface
Zai[1]: webadict
Leafsnail[1]: dirtybirdy
dirtybirdy[1]: Zai
JanusTwoface[2]: Pandarsenic, Leafsnail

Not Voting: dorf, Eduren

Deadline: Wednesday, 9pm EST

[Pandarsenic]

This is my first game ever.

Should be interesting then...  At least there aren't many roles to mess with you.  One doctor on the town team to protect people and one scum roleblocker to mess with the doc.

_{(Am I doing it right?)}

Looks good so far to me.  Which could mean that you are either naturally skilled at mafia, you've been reading strategy, or you have a more experienced scum buddy helping you out...


Hmm.  Random votey goodness...

webadict, is there any particular reason we shouldn't lynch you today?

Hardly any content there, but to be expected. No fault there.

webadict, is there any particular reason we shouldn't lynch you today?

Yes. I'm not mafia.

That's definitely a good reason not to lynch you, but only if it's true.  Why should I believe you?

And

I guess you can't until I find the two of them, now can you?

Hmm...  I guess that's fair enough for now.  Don't think you've escaped my suspicion though.  unvote.

Zai, why don't you come join in the fun.  Your name appears to be the most abbreviated in the OP.  Does that mean that dakarian was paying more attention to it when sending you the Mafia role PM perhaps?

General weakness.

JanusTwoFace is two-faced scum.

Nope.  Not scum.  No matter the number of faces.

Zai, why don't you come join in the fun.  Your name appears to be the most abbreviated in the OP.  Does that mean that dakarian was paying more attention to it when sending you the Mafia role PM perhaps?

This dost not makest sense, fair square. As we all know, Dak splittests up the roles fairly by doing it most randomly. But evenest if Dak didst not, I think he wouldst pay most attention to you and Meph.

Hmm...  You're probably right.  unvote

So far as suspicions go:
- Eduren has not posted yet (I know it's only the first few hours). 
- webadict isn't posting overmuch.  How do you like them apples?
- dorf for odd reasoning against Pandarsenic.
- Leafsnail for only FoSing then not posting much more.

Straight up denial, probably a habit learned from seeing what happens if you don't. Null tell.
You're probably right quote = ??
List of players is WIFOM for if you flip scum.

Four weak accusations?  What would you have me going off of then?  I'm putting out everything that I've seen that's even somewhat suspicious.

So Leafsnail, why do I get the feeling that you are mafia again as in NSBM2?

Perhaps it's because you're a paranoid MAFIA MEMBER!?  In all seriousness, I'm more of an anti-Pandarsenic in terms of alignment.  I've flipped mafia twice in total.

Eduren, you haven't come down here yet.  What do you think about my placing an FoS rather than a vote on you?

What about this then?  The first half looks like a classic case of trying to use Gambler's Fallacy to protect yourself.  You've only flipped scum twice, so why should this game be any different?

And if you're so anti-Pandarsenic as you claim, why are you not even coming close to thinking about putting pressure on him?

Hmmm scum?  How about it?

Weak pseudo-hunting.

I'm doing one for everyone.  You just bumped yourself to first because of your response.

Unvote.
Pandarsenic's quick ok-i-posted-so-don't-lynch-me-please reply and weak argument seem suspiciously scummy to me...

Tell us, where were you all this time? And why didn't you vote for your pal Zai for his (obviously) scummy way of conversing?

Hmm.  This seems like you're trying a little hard.  Granted, Pandarsenic didn't post anything of depth, but it is/was random-vote-stage.  Perfectly normal thing to do.  And *all this time*?  Really?  He posted 3 (RL) hours after the game started.  Out of 48 hours.  Oh no, what is this craziness!

And then nothing else?  Hmm.  I see, hoping that you could get a quick vote off and then lie low?  Hmm, shiny.  Or scummy.  As it were.

More convincing but not convinced.

Mephansteras: If you had two apples and everyone was starving, who would you share your other apple with?

And what if you had three apples?

I already said you've been quieter that normal this round.  But what sort of question is this?  Are you really going to go with such an obvious question trying to find Mephansteras' scum team? 

Unless of course, you're both the scum here.  That way, when we lynch you (you know it's going to happen), then Meph will be safe.  Because who would ever be that obvious?

For that matter, why haven't you called out half of the town for being scum?  Isn't that your usual play style?  Being absolutely convinced that you know who the scum are to the point that you get them all lynched?

I'm doing one for everyone.  You just bumped yourself to first because of your response.

Aaaand you aren't bothering to follow up your accusation.  At all.  You're just leaving to bash someone else.  You created a weak analysis of a few people, posted a tiny little bit more in the hope that I would leave you alone and then went on to someone else.  This looks like classic "Hey, I'm helpful!" scum.

I'm not bothering to follow up which accusation?  I'm following up the four that I posted.  So sue me if there's not not much more to go on just yet.  My goal is to generate more context for later in the game.

Incredibly unconvincing. Also, why are you so scared of Webadict? Half the time he can't convince anyone even if he's right. Even if he's killed for it.

Now, irrelevant questions is a scumtell for Meph, seen most clearly in Bay 12 Mafia.

However, Pandarsenic, I'm seeing something very strange in your posts.  It's something about the way you keep attacking people without pressuring them, almost as if you're trying to get them lynched rather than trying to determine if they are scum.

This warrants response; you don't think I'm pressuring Janus? I'm seeing how he responds to me. Results aren't good. He's trying too hard to just dismiss it.

You've played with me before, yes?  I don't do aggressive well in general.  That was me being aggressive.  This is also me being aggressive, just so you know...

Spoiler: Why Pandarsenic is scum (click to show/hide)

I'm thinking Zai and Janus maybe.

Zai's attempt to buddy me is a little weird; he went to unusual lengths to defend me. Janus... Janus eats gunpowder and shits scum, basically. I shouldn't even have to explain it.

You shouldn't even have to explain it why exactly?  Isn't the entire point of the game to find scum and lynch them?  In your mind, you've found scum, but your vote (and Leafsnail's I guess) are not nearly enough to lynch me, so why would you not explain your reasoning.

There's no buddying in my post. Try again.

Zai, I'm still uncertain about; I'm leaving him to Webadict, assuming Webby himself isn't scum.

Janus, though? Definitely mafia.

Webadict, who has been playing unusually calmly and quietly.  Just listen to him yelling in pretty much every game (even after being dead) and it's obvious that something is going on.  So why in the world are you depending on him to scum hunt?

Also not the distinct lack of anything other than the accusation. 

Mephansteras, that really smells scummy to me.

As usual, it's all my wintuition I'm going on, but it does. Not as sure of you as I am of Janus though.

Janus is still scum.

Blah blah blah.  Janus is scum because I say Janus is scum because Janus is scum because ...

vote Pandarsenic

Also, webadict is scum.

See I can make vague claims without bringing up any sort of evidence as well as either of you.

Aaaand he breaks. He's been trying so hard to avoid the OMGUS, then the caught himself and specifically DID do the OMGUS. It's gone from scumtell to nulltell back to scumtell.

Scum for the day is found. I'm going to the mall. Laters all.

[JanusTwoface]

Which doesn't really change my mind at all.  I vote for you because you're yelling 'Janus is scum' over and over without actually backing it up.  I finally put enough pressure on you to get you to respond so you have to respond or look even *more* scummy.  And scummy you are.

Also, I am amused that the one quote of mine you consider to be useful was a defense of your posting.  So the only useful thing I can do is defend you?

[Zai]

Seems like he realized that he overdefended Pandarsenic. And now, when he tried to correct the situation, he dug an even bigger hole!

lulwut Bullshit. Explain or I switch to you for making things up.

I didn't "overdefend" Pandar. I simply pointed out what was wrong with what you said. You even brought me into the matter, practically baiting me as if I wasn't already going to point out how bad your reasons were. I'm not trying to "correct the situation" and I sure as hell didn't dig a hole.

[dirtybirdy]

unvote. So, dorf I noticed that you haven't voted yet, but you're flinging accusations all around. This seems scummy to me.

[webadict]

Actually. I changed my mind. I want to lynch eduren.

Everyone vote for him.

[Zai]

unvote. So, dorf I noticed that you haven't voted yet, but you're flinging accusations all around. This seems scummy to me.

It's typically a good idea to explain why something seems scummy to you, not just point out what seems scummy to you.

And yeah, Web. I'll be sure to do that.

[Pandarsenic]

Janus is failscum, or he's terribad at seeing when I'm scum because I don't fling shit out like this when I'm scum.

lolwifomlol

Janus, I did back it up and you're exposed like a fat nudist in a public park. Give it up already.

Also, no denial of my reasoning for why you voted me? You're getting sloppy, Good Sir Scumface.

Also, everyone can see dorf's accusation on me was just an oddly sincere-looking randomvote now, or so it seems at least. Meh. It wasn't hard for anyone to attack him and look a little more townish. 3 people verbally beat down his argument.

The point remains, though, that you've slipped up spectacularly, Janus.

[webadict]

unvote. So, dorf I noticed that you haven't voted yet, but you're flinging accusations all around. This seems scummy to me.

It's typically a good idea to explain why something seems scummy to you, not just point out what seems scummy to you.

And yeah, Web. I'll be sure to do that.

... Why so sarcastic?

[Zai]

unvote. So, dorf I noticed that you haven't voted yet, but you're flinging accusations all around. This seems scummy to me.

It's typically a good idea to explain why something seems scummy to you, not just point out what seems scummy to you.

And yeah, Web. I'll be sure to do that.

... Why so sarcastic?

Why not? Does it hurt your feelings?