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Author Topic: BYOR Mafia 2 (Game Over: Town Wins!)  (Read 53526 times)

Zai

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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #135 on: November 18, 2009, 09:36:19 pm »

I don't care about whatever question you asked.

Indeed. I didn't even know what question you were referring to, SB.
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #136 on: November 18, 2009, 10:05:20 pm »

And unvote bulb (that's okay, right? I like to shorten people's names). Thank you for providing us with what I think may be something good for later on. That said, I also forgot to actually FoS SirBayer.

I change my vote to MagmaDeath. How do you feel about your role? Note that I am not fishing for a role name or ability, just how content you are with your role. Was it appropriate given the name?
I'm fine with my role. I actually didn't expect too much of it, but it gave me a pretty nice ability.
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #137 on: November 18, 2009, 10:26:17 pm »

My role has a scary disadvantage but a couple edges I rather enjoy.
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #138 on: November 18, 2009, 10:46:07 pm »

@SirBayer

The problem people are having is the reaction more than the original question.

Your question was a valid and normal randomquestion via a random vote. 

The question and vote done on you was THE SAME THING: a random question and a random vote. It meant as little as your vote did.  The idea is that we all get voted on and vote for others.

The problem: Instead of answering the question, or simply waiting until you CAN answer the question, you paniced:

Don't look at me, Orbish. I'm still trying to figure out. Gimme some time.

This is not a person who knows that the vote on him was Random and thus has no meaning.  Your response shows that you are worried about dying. 

Your question was NOT a scumtell.

Your worry about being lynched "IS" a scum tell.  Townies are always dying all the time.  They don't lose when they die.  They worry more about the scum surviving and winning.  Thus Townies are supposed to not worry about dying so long as they can keep hunting.

Scum, however, are very FEW in number.  They can't just sacrifice themselves easily.  As such, they are more prone to want to live. 

Thus, not being worried about dying is a town tell.  Trying to save your own hide is a scumtell.

In other words, you can ask your question, but stop panicing over getting voted on and attacked.  Just tell your case and keep hunting.  Hunt until eithe the scum die or you die.. but keep hunting even if it kills you.


As for me, I like to brag that I'm good at catching NewTells and not reading them as ScumTells.  You are flinging NewTells left and right.  As such, I don't believe you are scum for acting that way.  I need you to get to scumhunting though so I know WHAT you are.

The fellows aren't so practiced in NewTells..  If you keep being defensive, you'll be lynched. 
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #139 on: November 18, 2009, 10:49:36 pm »

Actually not being worried about dying is more of a Jester tell; a town tell is not wanting to die, but willing to die to prove a point.

Dying in vain harms the town, as it improves the odds of a scum success.

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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #140 on: November 18, 2009, 11:48:14 pm »

*sigh*

Well, yeah. Sorry. The question was "What in that statement was a scumtell?" But upon review, and spending some time cooling down from being rather irritated, I've worked it out. Thanks, Dakarian.

Panda, is it normal process to answer a question nobody has asked you...? Unless I've missed something. Or you're just excitable.

If you know what I mean.
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #141 on: November 18, 2009, 11:49:47 pm »

Sometimes. It's up to the person. If they have something relevant to contribute, they might answer unbidden.

Also, people are often very excited about their uPick roles. XD
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #142 on: November 18, 2009, 11:52:17 pm »

Wanna buy a boat?

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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #143 on: November 19, 2009, 12:00:16 am »

Actually not being worried about dying is more of a Jester tell; a town tell is not wanting to die, but willing to die to prove a point.

Dying in vain harms the town, as it improves the odds of a scum success.

Not caring to die is NOT wanting to die.  There's a difference.

Scum will rework their arguments and targets in order to better protect themselves against attack.  They are less willing to act in a way that gets them lynched.

Jesters will WANT to die and will throw out anything they can just to get themselves killed. 

The town's biggest bother with getting lynched is that they end up using up a mislynch that's NOT going to scum.  Dying isn't nice, but there's more important things than staying alive, like lynching scum.

If a town had the choice between pulling back on an obvscum or risking a lynch, they'll charge headon.  Scum can pretend this to a point but, eventually, they'll either pull back or their partner will bus them.  Either way, their concern is protection, not aggression.

Thus, a town doesn't really care if they die.. at least compared to scum.

As for Sir, his reaction was a NewTell reaction.  To me, it shows skill level rather than alignment.  If he's scum, he'll try to take my words and be more willing to die..but he'll fail at some point and that's when he'll die as scum. 
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #144 on: November 19, 2009, 12:04:57 am »

Wanna buy a boat?

If you're talking to no one in particular, then sure... why not.
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #145 on: November 19, 2009, 12:07:30 am »

I have a boat for sale, i'm looking for offers.

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« Reply #146 on: November 19, 2009, 12:09:58 am »

What type of boat would this be?
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #147 on: November 19, 2009, 12:12:30 am »

A most interesting boat indeed.

One mgiht even say it is a ship.

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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #148 on: November 19, 2009, 02:27:38 am »

Asking questions is not a scumtell (unless your name is Mephansteras :P). The original thing from me was mostly just pressure to see if you'd crack.

You cracked. That is a scumtell.
I always crack, even if it wasn't a question.

Org, even though this is probably gonna be classed as an OMGUS, why the heck did you vote me? I think I MAY have worked out how Web thinks, and maybe if we all claim, we should be OK. I mean, if web DID use random.org, the scum have nothing to be afraid of, right? So I will reclaim. I am teh Invincible Vigorish.
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Re: BYOR Mafia 2 (Day 1: Watch Out For Mafiosoitis!)
« Reply #149 on: November 19, 2009, 02:51:45 am »

Unvote

I was just messing with you Sir Bayer. I thought you knew of the customary random vote stage

Neruz , how much does this ship cost?

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