Dakarian's Pile of Scumvidence
My favorite Mafia buddy would definitely be Janus, since he was a Cabal Archmage and managed to convince Kirby to Justicar the wrong person, which was beautiful and single-handedly won us the game.
I'm not sure if he's in this though.
He is not, thankfully, as my j key is currently the one giving me trouble.
Which key, k?
Mr.Person, scum tend to at least get through the RVS before they start failing to read closely at the text. Or did someone Bus your J key with a K key?
flimsy argument-attributable to rvs.
Feels bloodthirsty (lynch anyone) in rvs. (supported later: see the hopping on bandwagons with Meph.)
Passiveness.. from Webadict!?
Unpossible
This is...VERY not Dakarian.
Want something real?
dakarian. That's something real, you stupid moron.
That's a vote. You're passive and unemotional.
Staged fight?
People truly underestimate RVS.
This was one of the better ones, I think. Shook a lot of folks up and provided a lot of targets to aim for.
Honestly, I'd consider anyone who doesn't have SOMEONE they question highly suspect at this point.. or lurking 
.
Fakeedit:
Insults just show you to be emotional. That means you're either losing control of yourself as scum, or easy to control as town. You were in Bay 12. Turning on Jerk Mode just gets townies killed.
It took me FOSing and prodding you to FINALLY get something real out of you. That's not a good sign.
I didn't put much stock towards your vote because you had nothing to attack. "Scummy!" is vague and senseless and your anti-OMGUS claim is new and untested, and doesn't work well when it just catches someone who's questioning others while focused on a real threat. You should've seen that I'm pushing Eduren and he's not done my questions yet. You're acting ugly but not enough to make me give up on Eduren to hunt you. I'd rather you keep speaking so I can read you better.
Unemotional: null tell. I don't consider one vote with little content more than a RV.
A real attack, but it took a good few prods to get it out of you. Noted.
Insulting, but that's your personality.
Duh, saying nothing important: noted.
It took you're talking a lot to make me think you're scum. Big difference.
Stagedfight.
They fight a while with much sound and fury but little content on either side...both lack explanations for much, calling each other on it hypocritically...
Dakarian used a smiley? I don't remember dakarian using smilies.
Something tells me that I may have to do a Wide Scan. A bigger part tells me that Wide Scanning 19 people will make me cry. *sigh* Beats doing it in day 3 I guess.
Appeal to emotion. Missed that earlier.
I go through a mountain of mess and the result is anti-climatic.
*KICK*
APPEAL TO EMOTION X2 COMBO
As for my own self, I needed to rest after that last post. I'll be able to dive in soon enough.
x3!
(tutorial on scumhunting, followed by telling Neruz what to do)
Firstly.. let me get this out:
MOTHER FUCK i FUCKING HATE 19 PEOPLE SCREAMING LIKE BANSHIES FOR 2 DAYS THERE'S MOST POSTS ON HERE THAN IN SOME GAMES ALREADY AND IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE THIS TOOK ME ALL MORNING TO DO AND LIKE 15 PEOPLE POSTED WHILE i WAS WRITING IT om#o%u(*$%u(*($y*y$toitheio diedieididieidieidieiiedieidideieiddiedidieeideiedidhhahahahAHAHAHHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
tHERE..*cough* There, I feel better.
(snip)
Now I need to go actually READ the #&%*(4 thing.
And calm down a little...
X4!
also, note these appeals to emotion feel...hypocritical, when viewed with respect to this:
This isn't a mess: we actually have good info here. This is Scumhunting in regular form.
It's taking a while because...well.. that's how long it takes when you don't rely on power roles and luck. Over in the mafiascum forums, the first day can go on for 3 weeks with only 9 people and, trust me, those weeks were NEEDED.
It's so Obvscum that it's warping in on itself and starting to make himself look town again! O.o
Undakarian.
So, uh, guys. Sorry for not posting. I'm fairly ill. I can't see clearly if my head isn't facing almost level because my eyes water, my sinuses are congested as all heck, and my head hurts. So, yeah. Not well.
So since I'm not following the whole thing perfectly (I've read all of it, and I hope I get it), I'm going to ask Webadict: Why do you feel the need to be so obscenely aggressive? And very angry. It's not very productive to make people angry, is it? Emotional people don't do anything mental quite as well.
If there was an answer to that, please tell me and I will look instead of asking.
Until I get an answer, Unvote Eduren. Since I think that's who I was voting.
I'll butt in.
Part of Webadict's recent meta is that he hates not being listened to. He's been lately been getting more and more hostile when he's not being read properly, seeing someone attack improperly, or when he's not listened to.
He's always been aggressive. The emotional aspect is based on that dislike and his looking for a way to 'make people see sense'.
Why the answer? Because his emotional outburst and aggressiveness is a null tell. It's part of his personality. Like it or hate it if you like. However, remember that we're not after people who are bothersome or even unhelpful. We are after scum and ONLY scum.
And, to be blunt, annoyance and unhelpfulness are NOT actions that are seen by mostly scum: it's just as likely to see a townie be that way as a scum.
...and defend/buddy Webadict!?
Seriously guys. Stop the nonscum lynching. Killing Web because's he's a prick. Killing Shadow because he writes in 3 words for one day. Killing Eduren even though a nolynch will mean he frys (when we get close to lylo, it'll be another matter).
So...uh...wow. Buddying on web after stagedfight.
We want to kill web because he's scummy and wants town to die.
2. Just did a quickscan on Leafsnail:
First he Randomvotes ExKirby then later defends ExKirby, then fusses at him.
(snip)
OHBTW, Leaf was the 3rd vote on the Web bandwagon. 3rd vote scumtell strikes again!
(snip)
Btw, the web vote: 4th vote, soon after Leaf's vote.
Unvote(Cheeetar), I believe ExKirby is scum.
Talk, NOW ExKirby. I don't have to wait for a bandwagon to wipe you out.
...you're doing all these things that you accused Exkirby of before you killed him. Hypocrite.
Dakarian... you should've known better than that. You played that game. You were the Webadict at one point in that game.
Dakarian, why didn't you consider what that meant?
Fakeedit
#%)*)% I didn't think of it!
Well, it's not all horror. If the Webadict trick works the same as last game, the switch ONLY occurs if the old webadict dies the same day.
Dakarian...missing points, TWICE (Vector also posted the transfer rule) then pointing out how this means "don't kill webadict now" He'll continue to do this later, ignoring things I say.
OTOH, we have two normal scum that were scum D1 and still scum D2.
Dakarian states the number of scum differently to what everyone expects. Normally I'd let this slide, but...he has done it a few times.
1. So long as I Vig someone today it's fine. Basically I'm giving the town two lynches in one day. I'm only aimed at you because you're my highest suspect.
Or, Giving the scum two mislynches in one day.
You said you have a good role. Claim then.
...on day 2. Now, think to day 1:
Rolenameclame! I'm a Rook.
SirBayer? Hello?
Rook. That smells of one of my creations.
However:
Rolefishing: Noted
...Wow, another hypocrisy?
@Mr.person
You're starting to bother me with this rush job.
I was moderately bothered by your rush ob. fuck, j key again.
Wouldn't it be funny if ExKirby died for no reason whatsoever?
Undakarian...
Oh. He also missed the giant robot roleblock. Missing details like this is seriously undakarian.
Not a whole lot d2 once Neruz decided to be transcendently scummy- going after that sort of thing doesn't say much, and a lot did it.
@Everyone
I highly, HIGHLY suggest that we leave Neruz and Toonyman alone today. We need to wait until they stop trying to force us into a gambit before we know what to do with them.
Instead, I ask you, when you stop lookingn at Neruz, Toonyman, and the WIFOM insanity that is the KWN situation, what makes Meph anything but scummy, based on what we know of him so far?
Well this is mighty strange. As is
dakarian: I point it out because it seemed odd to me.
I think defending Toonyman from Neruz's attack does tarnish your reputation...as, while Neruz is being scummy, he has been making arguments in the same vein as I- that Toony is apparently not being very forthcoming on his reasoning. (Like webadict, which is highly unusual for webadict).
BTW: I've deemed Neruz's response about the 3/4 thing insulting and condesending.
Meanwhile, it seems the town has a problem with Neruz, Toonyman, Webadict, and Meph. Add the people who've gone into the sidelines/lurker mode and we have a VERY busy day 3.
Btw, scum only get to walk away from a near lynch when the town is unwilling to go back to the past days and continue where they left off. So long as you're willing to go back and reread the past days, combine it with more recent work, and continue your hunt, your prey will always be caught in the end. That includes the 'unlynchables' like Toony and Web.
that.
I am reminded of something, lemme find it- it won't be in order, but
@Cobalt
About the blocking
It still doesn't explain the leafsnail death. Unless there's a Superkiller or a double killer out there. I still believe Leaf used his power.
Eduren, too vague. I will grant you this one, though: The one-shot protection stops anything I can think of offhand except a kill by the Lord of Chaos or a Lynch.
Now, dak claimed Lord of Chaos. Who...is a superkiller by Pandarsenic's word here. And he keeps claiming that there's one mafia short (3 instead of 4)
Vote Dakarian. You're lying, you haven't been aggressive all game. You being passive is a scum-tell, thus, you're scum. Double whammy, really. You also haven't answered my question, which was how predefending oneself was scummy.
I'm not the only person who thinks this cat is off.
Meh, OMGUS never worked as a scumtell and Mr.Person's post was about as bad as they come for attacks. If you're going to attack me, do something other than spend the entire post defending yourself.
Some webadict-highlighted hypocrisy. I'll gladly do more than spend an entire postseries defending myself!
D3.
Dakarian decides Mr.Person attacking him merits a scan. Feels reactionary. Also, the end. I now believe you will suit well as the next lynch.
Note how he doesn't say "you are scum," he says "You're a good target." Small, but there.
When you have a confirmed scum (Leafsnail) you can then scan the posts to try to catch their scummates. Some will buddy. Most will distance. Almost all will act 'funny' to each other.
It's looking like you're acting funny with Toony, Meph, Web. All your votes seem to be in each other, except when there's an easy lynch target that someone else has set up...or someone is attacking you (Mr. Person, in your case)
Save it until lylo, since the mafia don't seem afraid of it or else they'd kill you already while you were still blocked.
...oneshot powers should not be saved until lylo. Seriously. scum.
That WAS my answer. You ask why I feel it's better to use it on lylo than tomorrow when I DON'T. I'd rather you use it on someone who claims during our debates.
But if you want to Mass Claim and check, you're better off waiting till it's close to lylo.
Save it until lylo, since the mafia don't seem afraid of it or else they'd kill you already while you were still blocked.
If you want, you could always check out Meph who's already claimed or anyone else if we send them to L-1 then find a claim that keeps us from lynching them.
Error inconsistent
We also have the other batch load of folks.. though the thought of a widescan on 57 pages (83- the 26 I already widescanned) makes me cry.
Appeal to emotion
NUMBER FIVE.First off, the biggest matter: the conversion theory.
That...is a damn good theory I have to say.
(snip)
In any case, I can see the argument for Convertscum-dakarian. Beyond explaining why I did what I did the most I can do is hunt while I can.
This is true, but...you're doing a poor job of it because of what you are.
@Web
I don't know Eduren's meta. Meanwhile, Toony disagrees: he says that self preservation ISN'T part of his meta. That's why I'm on him. I'll take your idea that he DOES act like this normally into consideration, but I want to hear more from him before I leave him alone.
Mr. Person saw this, I do too. You're attacking...on someone else's argument (Toony's). Then, you claim to be "No, no, you're misreading me", and...same post as that?
[@MrPerson]you backpeddle, laugh off your mistakes .
.Hypocrisy. Again.
From what I've seen. Eduren don't give jack shit about defending himself, atleast Town. Hmmm....
And with that, I am officially done with my RVS.
Eduren, last time i made an early attack like that the person turned out to be scum. Did I just do it again?
then a big fight with Mr. Person, which comes out meh. He scores a few points against you I won't bother quoting, but mainly hypocrisy.
Btw, these people have not posted once all of today:
SHAD0WDump
Eduren
CobaltKobold
Rashilul
Shad0w's up for replacement, which you ignore
@Cobalt, mind showing where SirBayer claimed Doc? I missed that one.
Another detail missed, building on my meta case.
@Toony
Note that the vote I did was due to me failling to unvote properly (as Pandar mentioned). I was technically the 3rd vote.
As for why, my personal statements against Cobalt started here which was prompted by Vector's analysis of him a few posts back. After the linked post, me and Cobalt fought it out-the argument can be seen in the posts after the link. Thus, along with Confusion and a faulty defense his attack singed less of "Dakarian is scum" and more of "get off of me!"
AAaand...thirdvotes. I see where you're coming from with the "When you look at scum, they tend to be there"- it's right here!
Anyway. That's my case on dakarian.
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