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[Gunner-Chan]

Oh I see they are still working on it...

Okay that lets me get my SEKRIT IDEAS sorted out.

[lumin]

Did anybody notice that the Blacksmith is named, "Tarn"?  Is this a tribute to Toady, or just a coincidence?

Edit: Also there's a "Dwarven Fortress".  Hm, coincidence?  I think not.

[Sowelu]

Hmm.  It crashed halfway through the first mine level.  Neat game but not worth the time to figure that out.  :x

[KaelGotDwarves]

Lack of multiplayer coop is the reason I haven't bought this yet :/

[Thndr]

we need the dorf!

http://forums.runicgames.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4025

Huh, I was just going to post that here.

Yeah, I started just making it as a hobby, but I guess I inspired a guy girl who does models to edit the Destroyer mesh and scale it down. He She did such a fantastic job that it puts my crappy sketches to shame. Somehow I guess I stumbled myself into a major project XD.

Here's my latest edit, as I try not to double post too much. The current sketches are basically overlays of the model attempt Tiptoe did, along with some details and modification to the shape.


Here's front, side, arm, and back view.


Along with their model overlapping counterparts.


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Here's the front and side view
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3056/dwarfmodelsheetsketch.jpg
Along with their model overlapping counterparts.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6687/dwarfmodelsheetfront.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/181/dwarfmodelsheetprofile.jpg

Some alternate beard sizes.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2176/dwarfmodelsheetbeardb.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9208/dwarfmodelsheetbeardc.jpg
And an alternate beard.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6286/dwarfmodelsheetbeardd.jpg

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Anyway, since this forum is full of Dwarf lovers, any design flaws that you notice, or suggestions, are welcome.
The current idea I have is basically 3 models of Dorfs. Basically the battle dwarf, beefy, knockback and devistating damage, Plate armor and such. The marksdwarf, Chain armor and such. And then the Engineer//Machinist, with Leather armor.
Each will have a tree dedicated to them along with the appropriate passives.

Battle Dwarf will get a Martial Trance buff and have an ability or two with knockback.
Marksdwarf will get Ranged abilities of course.
Machinist will get the rest of the stuff along with some appropriate abilities. Mini-ballistas/turrets and that stuff.

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Edit: Updated some links.

[Gunner-Chan]

I just got a super fast firing blunderbuss that happens to be ON FIRE.

I love this game.

[olemars]

Giving your pet an offensive spell or two wins the game. I taught my dog a fireball spell, now I can just hang back while it emits fiery death and then move in afterwards to loot the corpses. At least until I run into some tougher (or fire resistant) enemies.

Did anybody notice that the Blacksmith is named, "Tarn"?  Is this a tribute to Toady, or just a coincidence?

Edit: Also there's a "Dwarven Fortress".  Hm, coincidence?  I think not.

I haven't seen the dwarven fortress ingame, but I've poked around the torchlight model assets for the fortress and it's very dwarven indeed. There's a ballista that can fire four bolts at once out of the mouth of a huge carved angry dwarf head. There's also a bigass doomsday machine looking thing.

stuff

I'm pretty familiar with the 3D engine used in torchlight (Ogre3D), so if you struggle with getting something to work properly (models, shaders, particle effects) I might be able to give some pointers.

[Thndr]

Well currently Tiptoe is doing all the modeling, I don't have any of the software for it yet. I guess the initial course of action is to see if we can scale the Destroyer's skeleton down to fit the model. (The model is a scaled and edited Destroyer mesh anyway)

Currently deciding on what to do with the beard, since she's concerned with it being large and clipping, and I want it to be dwarven enough. You guys got examples of small by mighty dwarf beards?

I should revisit the dwarven fortress level to see how the statues look as well.

[ductape]

Have it be bushy and stick outward a bit, instead of hanging down and flowing. Then you wont need to worry so much about clipping.

ALSO!

I am loving this game! Can't wait for coop play.

I am rocking out an alchemist on the hardest level, and it is pleasantly challenging!

[KaelGotDwarves]

So I caved and got it.

Alchemist is awesome. Giving your pet heal all is a godsend, especially with summons.

[Thndr]

So I caved and got it.

Alchemist is awesome. Giving your pet heal all is a godsend, especially with summons.

So what, The promise of a Dwarf class convinced you?


http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2873/dwarfmodelsheetlines.png
Currently in process of creating linework with illustrator. The project has moved on from creating the base model and now is going to create the base armor design (equipping nothing).

The hands themselves are larger than the Destroyer's, and hopefully there an algorithm that automatically scales the size of the weapons. If so, the Dwarf is going to use Bigger weapons than the Destroyer!


Anyway, currently thinking using this design I was making (The one that inspired the modeler) for the base design.
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4536/torchlightdwarf.png
Depending on whats needed I'll probably have the toolbelt turn into a tool apron/belt combo and have most of the dwarven armors having a kilt/large shirt texture. Gloves may not be initial starting armor, boots will be leather, shoulderpad(s) will probably be there, and there will most likely be hair on the head at start (before a helmet).

[olemars]

They've already got a patch for Torchlight out. Depending on where you bought the game that is. If you got it from steam it'll update itself automatically now. If you got it directly off the runic website you can download it there (it's really a full reinstall since they changed the whole asset packaging around to eliminate load times). If you got it from other download services then you might have to wait a little for it to go through all the QA hoops. Check the link for more details. IMO, requiring a full game download and reinstall on the first patch is a bit of a hiccup (although only 4-500mb), but supposedly the gain was worth the pain.

For a game that's been out for little more than a week and generally felt rock solid as is, the changelog is pretty long. No editor yet though, but it's next on the list now that the patch is done.

Torchlight 1.12 Patch Notes :

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

* Fixed several issues which could overwrite saves, and protected against possible save loss. Save backups are now also generated.
* Much reduced load times for many users
* Some minor ingame performance improvements
* Fixed Needle Arc XP exploit
* Fixed Shadow Armor stacking effects
* Fixed vendor dupe bug
* Fixed various fullscreen startup issues
* Fixed broken Brink cinematic on subsequent plays
* Fixed merchant 'thief' exploit
* Fixed right clicking in inventory casting certain spells
* Fixed console not activating on Steam builds - this also fixes the fact that subsequent characters didn't see the random dungeon unlock after the first completion
* Fixed issue with Syl's cinematic not being "skippable" during first boss fight
* Fixed some DOT deaths not dropping loot
* Quest items no longer allowed in stash
* Several level fixes for a few places where things overlapped, or collision was missing, or stuck-issues cropped up
* Fixed texture/mesh/ replacement issues with mods
* You can now change difficulty level on the fly from the console without being branded a Cheater ( UNLESS you're playing hardcore )
* Fixed pet minions not awarding fame
* Fixed slow load times when mods were enabled
* Pets inherit your spell masteries
* Magic find takes the max value between you and your pet when pets or pet minions make a kill
* Visible/increasing chance of stripping enchants via enchanter. Price based on # of enchants. Variables tunable in globals.dat
* Troll pet is properly invincible
* Tree Boss could be charmed - fixed
* Fixed issue - Returning to town if you died during Ember Colossus or Medea would make them dormant on return
* weapon + shield doesn't count as 'dual wielding'
* Shimmering Scale ( and 2 other socketables ) now work properly when socketed
* Ember lance slight nerf
* Ember lightning slight buff
* Aloe Gel summon provides better healing
* Equippables properly provide bonuses to passive skills
* Fixed display issue where multiple skill bonuses on the same item would collapse into a single display
* Hardware skinning settings respected properly for pet paperdolls
* Fix for potential bad state in the henchman battle
* Enchantments at level 100 now work
* Relabeled difficulty levels, and added tooltips explaining each
* Fixed 'free spell purchase' exploit
* Socketables cannot be heirloomed
* Fix for masteries not updating certain spell bonuses until logout/login
* Summon Blood Skeleton has 11 levels now
* Various small grammar and spelling fixes

* ADDITION : Rimlights, HW Skinning, and VSynch can all be altered from the Settings menu now.
* MODDERS: Items can be set to 'always identified'

[0x517A5D]

I'm tempted to buy this, but on the other hand... the demo really didn't show anything that FATE didn't have.  (I know, same team.)  Pets that can sell stuff.  Fishing minigame.  Gambling.  Sockets are Diablo 1, aren't they?  As is the town enchanter.  Villagers giving quests.

It felt more 'tuned', like better dungeon generation and nicer hotkeys, but it's essentially FATE II.  Better eyecandy doesn't matter much to me; I play roguelikes after all.

My FATE install has been broken for years -- it broke when I migrated it from Windows 98 to Windows XP.  Playing the Torchlight demo got me off my ass to find a crack, and now I'm happily replaying FATE.

I guess my point is, for FATE owners, $20 is too much.  I think I'll wait for a sale.

Semi offtopic question: FATE undiscovered realms is a mission pack, right?  That's $20 too, which feels steep.  It's 4 years old, it should be cheaper.  If I do spend $20, I'll buy Torchlight.

Maybe I'm a skinflint pinchpenny bastard though.

[ductape]

MODS! coming soon, you WILL cave and buy it.

[Tilla]

I'm tempted to buy this, but on the other hand... the demo really didn't show anything that FATE didn't have.  (I know, same team.)  Pets that can sell stuff.  Fishing minigame.  Gambling.  Sockets are Diablo 1, aren't they?  As is the town enchanter.  Villagers giving quests.

It felt more 'tuned', like better dungeon generation and nicer hotkeys, but it's essentially FATE II.  Better eyecandy doesn't matter much to me; I play roguelikes after all.

My FATE install has been broken for years -- it broke when I migrated it from Windows 98 to Windows XP.  Playing the Torchlight demo got me off my ass to find a crack, and now I'm happily replaying FATE.

I guess my point is, for FATE owners, $20 is too much.  I think I'll wait for a sale.

Semi offtopic question: FATE undiscovered realms is a mission pack, right?  That's $20 too, which feels steep.  It's 4 years old, it should be cheaper.  If I do spend $20, I'll buy Torchlight.

Maybe I'm a skinflint pinchpenny bastard though.

The polish level compared to FATE is pretty insane though. A light story mode, way better overall presentation (some of the areas just look amazing, like those with little platforms overlooking levels far below). Plus you know, more or less the entire Diablo team involved, including the music/sound guy and all that. It's kind of amusing all the people claiming that Diablo 3 is too cartoony and not true to the series, when the guys who made the darker/grittier Diablos make this as their next big project