Exhausted. Have dinner with Friend. Friend brings guests (eh, fine), one of which is a pain. One of Friend's guests, Guest, ruined dinner/evening by ranting about criminal law, badly.... It appears Guest is studying political science or something.... The professor is mangling the shit out of fourth, fifth, and sixth amendment law, while telling the students how smart they are because of his mangling. It's borderline practicing law without a license and I've half a mind to write him a letter saying I'll turn him over to the bar if he doens't open a book/cut it out, because he's insisting he's correct/telling his students to follow his advice in real life when/if arrested.... Needless to say this is a bad thing....
An officer in the US can't ask to see you damn ID/"Papers" with no reason,
Brown v. Texas, 1984.... Among so many other worse misconceptions....
Isn't bad legal advice fun? A friend recently got sent down for five years. Before the trial he visited my family to explain what was happening. Unfortunately he'd met some guy at a music festival who had filled his head with rubbish legal advice. His legal representative predicted he'd not get so many years but then he caused a lot of trouble with his strange interpretations. I'm not sure if this would have influenced the outcome but he got quite angry in court because they were misinterpreting the law as far as he saw it.
The basic gist of his argument was that with him being a "freeman of the land" he could refuse the judgement and avoid any legal consequences. It turns out the whole freeman movement is of the conspiracy theory ilk.
It's sad to see him behind bars. He's been a good friend to me. His crime was nothing awful either.
[sigh] Yeah, though American Law is rooted in English Common Law, I can't claim to know the current parliamentary state of things. That said, I've read a tad on that "freeman of the land" BS. It's not only BS but I don't get how people find it convincing in the least, "You can just ... I dunno... ignore the courts...?"
I really don't see how people expect that to work....
I've seen similar things before. Relatives will tell clients "how the law works" and then it makes my job 10x harder. Juvenile cases are the worst for this if the parents think they know better. Yes, you're the parent, but you don't know the law and insisting you do could cost your kid a lot....
The first rule of law is to, "never piss off the judge," because a judge is always right until and unless you both a.) appeal, and b.) win the appeal.... This means you've to convince another judge that the first one was wrong. Good luck with that.... Incidentally, the second rule of law is "prove it." The third is "shut up." (You have the right to remain silent...).
I'm honestly sorry about your friend, for whatever that may be worth.
one of which is a pain.
Hah, two spaces, bet that word used to be a bit more naughty, eh?
Also, your entire post:Sounds exactly like this.
Don't have speakers at work/"lunch" is over will listen later at home though.