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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #375 on: May 16, 2010, 04:24:02 am »

I'm recently training myself to recognize/delve into dreams lucidly after I remembered a lucid dream that lasted 5 mins, twas' epic
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #376 on: May 22, 2010, 04:08:23 am »

I usually don't dream at all. I know, I know, science says that everyone dreams no matter what and 'not recalling having a dream' just means 'not remembering that you had a dream which certainly happened,' but usually when I go to sleep it's just the blackness of the inside of my eyelids until I wake up. The few times I do recall having dreams, though, are bimonthly and always lucid. As far back as I can remember, that's without exception. If I dream, I'm in control, and well aware of this. The few dreams I do have tend to be really complicated to deal with, though.

An example: I was having a dream in which I was partying with my friends and getting pretty drunk. Dream-me eventually passed out and woke up the next morning, having forgotten just about everything from the night before... But I remembered everything. So I kept letting the dream play out and then remembering that dream-me shouldn't remember something he just brought up and reverting the dream back a few seconds and having to keep dream-me from referencing certain stuff while kKeeping track of what happened vs. what dream-me should be able to remember. It was really confusing and gave me a headache, and I remember thinking what a pain in the ass it was and waking up moments after.

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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #377 on: May 26, 2010, 04:32:13 pm »

I usually don't dream at all. I know, I know, science says that everyone dreams no matter what and 'not recalling having a dream' just means 'not remembering that you had a dream which certainly happened,' but usually when I go to sleep it's just the blackness of the inside of my eyelids until I wake up. The few times I do recall having dreams, though, are bimonthly and always lucid. As far back as I can remember, that's without exception. If I dream, I'm in control, and well aware of this. The few dreams I do have tend to be really complicated to deal with, though.

An example: I was having a dream in which I was partying with my friends and getting pretty drunk. Dream-me eventually passed out and woke up the next morning, having forgotten just about everything from the night before... But I remembered everything. So I kept letting the dream play out and then remembering that dream-me shouldn't remember something he just brought up and reverting the dream back a few seconds and having to keep dream-me from referencing certain stuff while kKeeping track of what happened vs. what dream-me should be able to remember. It was really confusing and gave me a headache, and I remember thinking what a pain in the ass it was and waking up moments after.

You can induce remembering of dreams if you wake up while in the middle of a dream. A good way of testing that out is setting a clock to beep some 90 minutes after you go to bed (and fall asleep). If I'm not wrong it already is enough time for it to have a chance of waking you up in the middle of a REM cycle. That might take some empyrical adjustment though.

Some people (myself included) syncrhonize their nocturna/morningl wakeup/sleep patterns with their REM cycles. Specially at mornings when I wake up some 3 times between 6 AM and 12 AM in weekends, I most often wake up during dreams.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #378 on: May 26, 2010, 04:35:07 pm »

I usually don't dream at all. I know, I know, science says that everyone dreams no matter what and 'not recalling having a dream' just means 'not remembering that you had a dream which certainly happened,' but usually when I go to sleep it's just the blackness of the inside of my eyelids until I wake up.
False. Not remembering a dream means not remembering a dream. At all. As far as you know it never happened, but everyone dreams.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #379 on: May 26, 2010, 05:33:57 pm »

All we know, as far as I've heard, is that healthy people tend to have similar brain patterns when scanned while asleep.

But I don't know how you can determine that a person who does not remember their dreams, actually did have them. Do you peer into their ears?

I mean, look at it this way:

Patients A, B, and C claim to dream. Patient D claims to not dream. All patients are scanned and their brain activity seems similar.

You can conclude that Patient D dreams even though he can't remember them. You might, without enough experimentation, claim along these lines that everyone dreams.

But you could just as honestly claim that the brain scan does not check for dreaming, it just checks for the state of mind where dreaming is possible.

Again, we don't have dream-readers, so we can't tell whether everyone dreams or not.

Link me to things that support what you're saying, though. I'd love to learn about this.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #380 on: May 26, 2010, 05:39:03 pm »

Again, we don't have dream-readers, so we can't tell whether everyone dreams or not.
Yet! We can actually sorta read the dreams of mice. Only vaguely, but it can be done. My google-fu is too weak o find the article though.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #381 on: May 28, 2010, 06:18:16 am »

You can induce remembering of dreams if you wake up while in the middle of a dream. A good way of testing that out is setting a clock to beep some 90 minutes after you go to bed (and fall asleep). If I'm not wrong it already is enough time for it to have a chance of waking you up in the middle of a REM cycle. That might take some empyrical adjustment though.

Some people (myself included) syncrhonize their nocturna/morningl wakeup/sleep patterns with their REM cycles. Specially at mornings when I wake up some 3 times between 6 AM and 12 AM in weekends, I most often wake up during dreams.

I could probably do this if I had discernible sleep patterns. As it is, I sleep only generally around 2ish hours, usually in the late morning or the early afternoon, though it's pretty subject to change. And I'm not sure I want to disturb myself from the most sleep I can get.

I usually don't dream at all. I know, I know, science says that everyone dreams no matter what and 'not recalling having a dream' just means 'not remembering that you had a dream which certainly happened,' but usually when I go to sleep it's just the blackness of the inside of my eyelids until I wake up.
False. Not remembering a dream means not remembering a dream. At all. As far as you know it never happened, but everyone dreams.

That's... the same thing I was saying. I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with.

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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #382 on: May 28, 2010, 11:04:30 am »

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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #383 on: May 28, 2010, 01:33:12 pm »



I could probably do this if I had discernible sleep patterns. As it is, I sleep only generally around 2ish hours, usually in the late morning or the early afternoon, though it's pretty subject to change. And I'm not sure I want to disturb myself from the most sleep I can get.


That's probably why you don't dream.  Get some real sleep, that's unhealthy.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #384 on: May 28, 2010, 08:00:31 pm »



I could probably do this if I had discernible sleep patterns. As it is, I sleep only generally around 2ish hours, usually in the late morning or the early afternoon, though it's pretty subject to change. And I'm not sure I want to disturb myself from the most sleep I can get.


That's probably why you don't dream.  Get some real sleep, that's unhealthy.
Unless you do it multiple times per day. That's what Thomas Edison did.
 
Wait, was Thomas Edison healthy?
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #385 on: May 28, 2010, 08:16:29 pm »

20 minute naps every four hours is all you technically need, but that isn't exactly easy to explain to your boss.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #386 on: May 28, 2010, 08:23:23 pm »

I don't much like lucid dreaming anymore. Recently here, I control what I do, if I can concentrate on it, with great consistency. However, my brain seems to be more and more active while I'm asleep, and so random thoughts and widgets pop into my dream world, and I can control them too, but stuff floods in and fades out and it gets hard to do.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #387 on: May 28, 2010, 08:36:46 pm »


Unless you do it multiple times per day. That's what Thomas Edison did.
 
Wait, was Thomas Edison healthy?

Maybe, but he was a bastard, so maybe the sleep made him that way.

So I always try to lucid dream and always seem to fail. Any tips for someone besides dream journals?
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #388 on: May 29, 2010, 10:13:02 am »

Don't try. I tried and failed and consequently grew discouraged, which probably made my chances of succeeding worsen. Then I stopped trying. Now I have 1-3 lucid dreams a week just by realizing I'm dreaming. The dream journal probably wouldn't hurt so keep doing that. I would also suggest getting a good full night's sleep every night and drinking plenty of water during the day, that always seemed to help me.
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Re: Lucid dreaming
« Reply #389 on: June 01, 2010, 03:11:53 pm »

dammit, so close! had a failed reality check last night and I'm close, just a little further to go...
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