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[Jude]

For what? Common knowledge?

[chaoticag]

I doubt the Israeli mass media would want that type of information to go out, but a highschool text book should be capable of containing the information. Specifically, the highschool textbook I used in 10th grade in the US stated that Israeli schools were teaching this sort of unfair treatment, so you should check your textbook too.

And the last bit about standards rising is too ambiguos, as it can also be argued that since the conditions in Hiroshima and Nagasaki have improved, the atomic bomb did wonders to their developement.

Excuse my spelling, I can't think straight today.

[Jude]

I'd almost guarantee that by watching mainstream Israeli media, you'd get the idea that life in the West Bank and Gaza is all flowers and rainbows, and that Israel didn't kill anybody in Gaza this winter - those deaths were all faked by Hamas.

I mean, you wouldn't rely on Fox News to give you an accurate idea of what's going on with American affairs (unless you're retarded). Israeli media would have even more incentive to be biased, since there's a very tight-knit ethnic choir to be preached to.

Seriously dude. The entire world (except America) was appalled by the Gaza massacre and the entire world (except America) condemns the occupation and all thinking people (except America) consider the right of return to be a natural right for the refugees. You don't ask for citations for common knowledge.

[Granite26]

Why do people bash Fox as if all the other stations were paragons of neutrality?

[chaoticag]

Why do people bash Fox as if all the other stations were paragons of neutrality?

Fox is the biggest offender, and they have been contradicting themselves more than others. Before the election, they made more bashes at Barak Obama than most news networks by a longshot.

[Granite26]

Why do people bash Fox as if all the other stations were paragons of neutrality?

Fox is the biggest offender, and they have been contradicting themselves more than others. Before the election, they made more bashes at Barak Obama than most news networks by a longshot.

Wait, what?  I've heard quite a few complaints (and seen examples of myself) about the shear amount of ass-kissing the other stations did.  Are you seriously suggesting that Fox is the unbiased one because of it's treatment of Obama?  Really?

Sure, Fox is 100 points off to the right, but that doesn't mean we should use them as the pariah because the other stations are only 50 points to the left.

[chaoticag]

All I am saying is that fox is targeted because it is 100 points to the right instead of fifty. Pretty much the only neutral view expressed on television seems to be the "Daily Show with Jon Stewart" on Comedy central, and it is neutral because it gets more targets that way.

[Yanlin]

For what? Common knowledge?

Somebody just thanks you for helping him and asks you to cite your sources. So you proceed to hypocritically and obnoxiously insult him?

I'd almost guarantee that by watching mainstream Israeli media, you'd get the idea that life in the West Bank and Gaza is all flowers and rainbows, and that Israel didn't kill anybody in Gaza this winter - those deaths were all faked by Hamas.

I mean, you wouldn't rely on Fox News to give you an accurate idea of what's going on with American affairs (unless you're retarded). Israeli media would have even more incentive to be biased, since there's a very tight-knit ethnic choir to be preached to.

Seriously dude. The entire world (except America) was appalled by the Gaza massacre and the entire world (except America) condemns the occupation and all thinking people (except America) consider the right of return to be a natural right for the refugees. You don't ask for citations for common knowledge.

That's just outright slander. Did you even watch what our media gives us? Not to mention the stuff you're saying are not common knowledge. They are slander. Especially so if they go uncited.

Not to mention you're outright lying. I'm not even gonna bother again. You're obviously biased against Israel somehow.

Why do people bash Fox as if all the other stations were paragons of neutrality?

Fox is the biggest offender, and they have been contradicting themselves more than others. Before the election, they made more bashes at Barak Obama than most news networks by a longshot.

Wait, what?  I've heard quite a few complaints (and seen examples of myself) about the shear amount of ass-kissing the other stations did.  Are you seriously suggesting that Fox is the unbiased one because of it's treatment of Obama?  Really?

Sure, Fox is 100 points off to the right, but that doesn't mean we should use them as the pariah because the other stations are only 50 points to the left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU

Bonus video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixt1eu11LXk

[Granite26]

Bonus video:

I'm not defending Fox, just criticizing people who act like Fox is way off in left field compared to the other news stations

[Yanlin]

When you boil it down, EVERY information outlet is biased some way or another. Even if they are biased to tell the truth.

For example, I trust Consumerist for my finance news and other tidbits of epic win.

[Jude]

Why do people bash Fox as if all the other stations were paragons of neutrality?

I never said anything about the other stations, but of the mainstream ones, Fox is the worst by miles and miles.

  Are you seriously suggesting that Fox is the unbiased one because of it's treatment of Obama?

That's hardly the only reason...just watch Fox sometime. It's pretty much self-explanatory why people pick on it so much. Sure, I wouldn't want CNN, ABC or NBC to be my sole news source (and I don't watch them, I get my news from the BBC mostly as well as NPR). But Fox is just propaganda.

Somebody just thanks you for helping him and asks you to cite your sources. So you proceed to hypocritically and obnoxiously insult him?

Insult?

Also, refer to the thread title

Not to mention the stuff you're saying are not common knowledge. They are slander.

Do you even believe the things you say?
Are you not aware of what happened in Gaza? 1300+ people killed (a LOT of them civilians, probably the majority) and the entire infrastructure as good as destroyed? White phosphorus? Does that ring any bells?

Man, Israel and America really are made for each other.

Not to mention you're outright lying. I'm not even gonna bother again. You're obviously biased against Israel somehow.

You sound like a self-parody. I'm biased against Israel because I think it's worse that they slaughtered 1300 people and left all of Gaza in ruins, than a few Israelis' car windows getting broken by rockets?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU

That's a good example of how retarded Fox is, albeit far from the most egregious. Still it shows the kind of sensationalism they use to sell themselves to uptight retards.
Also, a "psychology expert?" I'm pretty sure they failed to mention her credentials for a reason.
Not to mention the CONSTANT interruption of interviewees by anchors when they start to say something that contradicts the message Fox is trying to send.

[Bromor Neckbeard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU

This is a fine example of Fox's excuse for "Journalism".  Blatant propaganda, fearmongering bullshit with no connection to reality whatsoever.  Sure, CNBC and CNN have got a liberal bias, but they mostly provide news, not whatever the hell that crap in that link is.  Whoamygod!  Your CHILDREN are playing PORNOGRAPHY and there's NOTHING YOU CAN DO about it!

Fox earns their treatment as a pariah every day.  Every single day, they have the choice to exclusively produce put out legitimate journalism, and every once in a great while, they even make the correct choice and put out some news.  But they invariably contaminate any journalistic integrity they may have with propaganda and fearmongering. 

Look at the previous election.  How much did Fox push non-issues like Acorn or "pallin' around with terrorists"?  That's not news, that's Republican propaganda.  And this is coming from a guy who considers himself a "conservative" and would have voted Republican if they'd put up a convincing (non theocrat, non anti-lectual) candidate.

Or better yet, Fox's support of waterboarding terrorist suspects, and various other forms of torture.  Not in MY America, thank you!

(edit)  Apparently Strife is broken.  vVv

[Strife26]

Why do people bash Fox as if all the other stations were paragons of neutrality?

I never said anything about the other stations, but of the mainstream ones, Fox is the worst by miles and miles.

  Are you seriously suggesting that Fox is the unbiased one because of it's treatment of Obama?

That's hardly the only reason...just watch Fox sometime. It's pretty much self-explanatory why people pick on it so much. Sure, I wouldn't want CNN, ABC or NBC to be my sole news source (and I don't watch them, I get my news from the BBC mostly as well as NPR). But Fox is just propaganda.

Somebody just thanks you for helping him and asks you to cite your sources. So you proceed to hypocritically and obnoxiously insult him?

Insult?

Also, refer to the thread title

Not to mention the stuff you're saying are not common knowledge. They are slander.

Do you even believe the things you say?
Are you not aware of what happened in Gaza? 1300+ people killed (a LOT of them civilians, probably the majority) and the entire infrastructure as good as destroyed? White phosphorus? Does that ring any bells?

Man, Israel and America really are made for each other.

Not to mention you're outright lying. I'm not even gonna bother again. You're obviously biased against Israel somehow.

You sound like a self-parody. I'm biased against Israel because I think it's worse that they slaughtered 1300 people and left all of Gaza in ruins, than a few Israelis' car windows getting broken by rockets?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU

That's a good example of how retarded Fox is, albeit far from the most egregious. Still it shows the kind of sensationalism they use to sell themselves to uptight retards.
Also, a "psychology expert?" I'm pretty sure they failed to mention her credentials for a reason.
Not to mention the CONSTANT interruption of interviewees by anchors when they start to say something that contradicts the message Fox is trying to send.

[Jude]

Why, thanks for the quotation!

[Yanlin]

I don't even know why I bother.